| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna 12:38 - Jun 8 with 27482 views | UppaTowen78 |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:08 - Jun 9 with 3448 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:38 - Jun 9 by LankHenners |
That's nonsense though really as it's both and it's very very odd to argue otherwise. Obviously we were a big fish in a small pond and did what was expected of us but we did it in the end a whisker off 100 points 100 goals which would be universally seen as a seriously, seriously impressive achievement regardless of the size of club relative to the league. That we reached near that goal with the form across the season broadly going great-average-outstanding rather than great all the way through isn't really relevant.
Fans of certain other clubs hate it but you listen to/read any neutral, objective analysis of league one by pundits, writers etc. and they all couldn't speak highly enough of us, generally feeling that we were very unlucky not to have romped home with the title. McKenna's impressed everyone that's laid eyes on him and his team or heard him speak, there's a reason his stock is rising rapidly in the game and that's largely down to the performance levels achieved whilst getting results. |
We played beautiful football at League One level because we bought in high quality players who could play beautiful football at League One level. There's no denying some performances and results in the run in exceeded expectations, once the January signings settled and reached match fitness.
Plymouth, on a lower budget, managed to exceed 100 points. Sheffield Wednesday only finished four points off. Not to do away with the achievements of any of the top three but it was a lopsided league last year, hence the discrepancy between the top and bottom.
I enjoyed last season. McKenna is the best manager we've had since Burley - some may argue longer and I can see why. I don't want him to leave and grow even further in the role here instead. Strip away everything but where we finished last season, did we match or exceed expectations? I would say matched. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:10 - Jun 9 with 3409 views | Kitman |
Graham Potter has told them: "Thanks but NO thanks!" |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:17 - Jun 9 with 3353 views | LankHenners |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:08 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
We played beautiful football at League One level because we bought in high quality players who could play beautiful football at League One level. There's no denying some performances and results in the run in exceeded expectations, once the January signings settled and reached match fitness.
Plymouth, on a lower budget, managed to exceed 100 points. Sheffield Wednesday only finished four points off. Not to do away with the achievements of any of the top three but it was a lopsided league last year, hence the discrepancy between the top and bottom.
I enjoyed last season. McKenna is the best manager we've had since Burley - some may argue longer and I can see why. I don't want him to leave and grow even further in the role here instead. Strip away everything but where we finished last season, did we match or exceed expectations? I would say matched. |
Just seems a bit of a desperate attempt to put a negative spin on things. If you genuinely believe he's so good why then completely undermine that view by trying to play down what he's achieved? |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:37 - Jun 9 with 3287 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:17 - Jun 9 by LankHenners |
Just seems a bit of a desperate attempt to put a negative spin on things. If you genuinely believe he's so good why then completely undermine that view by trying to play down what he's achieved? |
Not trying to put a negative spin on it; just trying not to excessively praise either. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:10 - Jun 9 with 3188 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:08 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
We played beautiful football at League One level because we bought in high quality players who could play beautiful football at League One level. There's no denying some performances and results in the run in exceeded expectations, once the January signings settled and reached match fitness.
Plymouth, on a lower budget, managed to exceed 100 points. Sheffield Wednesday only finished four points off. Not to do away with the achievements of any of the top three but it was a lopsided league last year, hence the discrepancy between the top and bottom.
I enjoyed last season. McKenna is the best manager we've had since Burley - some may argue longer and I can see why. I don't want him to leave and grow even further in the role here instead. Strip away everything but where we finished last season, did we match or exceed expectations? I would say matched. |
"We played beautiful football at League One level because we bought in high quality players who could play beautiful football at League One level."
So who identified & asked Gamechanger/MA to go get those players do you think? And who then integrated them into the first team & got them playing so well, both as individuals & as a cohesive unit, with successful formations & tactics? |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:13 - Jun 9 with 3175 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:10 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
"We played beautiful football at League One level because we bought in high quality players who could play beautiful football at League One level."
So who identified & asked Gamechanger/MA to go get those players do you think? And who then integrated them into the first team & got them playing so well, both as individuals & as a cohesive unit, with successful formations & tactics? |
True, but then I'm not disputing that. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:38 - Jun 9 with 3103 views | Herbivore |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 11:08 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
We played beautiful football at League One level because we bought in high quality players who could play beautiful football at League One level. There's no denying some performances and results in the run in exceeded expectations, once the January signings settled and reached match fitness.
Plymouth, on a lower budget, managed to exceed 100 points. Sheffield Wednesday only finished four points off. Not to do away with the achievements of any of the top three but it was a lopsided league last year, hence the discrepancy between the top and bottom.
I enjoyed last season. McKenna is the best manager we've had since Burley - some may argue longer and I can see why. I don't want him to leave and grow even further in the role here instead. Strip away everything but where we finished last season, did we match or exceed expectations? I would say matched. |
I guess if you strip away all the stuff that makes him an excellent manager and focus just on the league finish then you could argue that he's met expectations rather than done an exceptional job, but then why would you want to do that? If automatic promotion was the target and the best you can achieve in League 1 is automatic promotion then, by definition, it's impossible to exceed expectations. But that's an incredibly narrow and somewhat disingenuous way of looking at things, as is the reductive argument that we could play good football because we had players who could play good football. We also had players who could play good football under Cook, actually getting them to work at a unit doesn't happen by accident otherwise you'd have no need of coaches and a manager. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:22 - Jun 9 with 2977 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:38 - Jun 9 by Herbivore |
I guess if you strip away all the stuff that makes him an excellent manager and focus just on the league finish then you could argue that he's met expectations rather than done an exceptional job, but then why would you want to do that? If automatic promotion was the target and the best you can achieve in League 1 is automatic promotion then, by definition, it's impossible to exceed expectations. But that's an incredibly narrow and somewhat disingenuous way of looking at things, as is the reductive argument that we could play good football because we had players who could play good football. We also had players who could play good football under Cook, actually getting them to work at a unit doesn't happen by accident otherwise you'd have no need of coaches and a manager. |
Yes, but I am not saying McKenna failed. We could have won the title, or got to 100 points. Those would be exceeding expectations looking at the season purely based on the league table and, yes, we came close.
Cook WAS an utter failure here and, to this day, I can't work out why after his success elsewhere. I also thought we took a calculated gamble with McKenna considering his lack of managerial experience but glad we did. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:51 - Jun 9 with 2913 views | GavTWTD |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:38 - Jun 9 by Herbivore |
I guess if you strip away all the stuff that makes him an excellent manager and focus just on the league finish then you could argue that he's met expectations rather than done an exceptional job, but then why would you want to do that? If automatic promotion was the target and the best you can achieve in League 1 is automatic promotion then, by definition, it's impossible to exceed expectations. But that's an incredibly narrow and somewhat disingenuous way of looking at things, as is the reductive argument that we could play good football because we had players who could play good football. We also had players who could play good football under Cook, actually getting them to work at a unit doesn't happen by accident otherwise you'd have no need of coaches and a manager. |
Indeed. We not only gained automatic promotion but we did it, largely, with our own players and not expensive loanees. We've improved players, and we gained promotion with a playing style that probably isn't best suited to the league we're leaving but sets us up well for the future. I'm pretty sure KM has done most of that, or driven it.
That foxes forum is depressing. I'd like to hear from someone at the club. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:55 - Jun 9 with 2864 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:22 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
Yes, but I am not saying McKenna failed. We could have won the title, or got to 100 points. Those would be exceeding expectations looking at the season purely based on the league table and, yes, we came close.
Cook WAS an utter failure here and, to this day, I can't work out why after his success elsewhere. I also thought we took a calculated gamble with McKenna considering his lack of managerial experience but glad we did. |
We only failed to make 100 pts cos S so**ing W fans cheated us out of 2 pts at Hillsborough by the most despicable means  | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:00 - Jun 9 with 2831 views | Herbivore |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:22 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
Yes, but I am not saying McKenna failed. We could have won the title, or got to 100 points. Those would be exceeding expectations looking at the season purely based on the league table and, yes, we came close.
Cook WAS an utter failure here and, to this day, I can't work out why after his success elsewhere. I also thought we took a calculated gamble with McKenna considering his lack of managerial experience but glad we did. |
So 98 points is meeting expectations but 100 points would be exceeding expectations? That seems rather arbitrary, especially as hitting 100 points would have made us the first EFL team to have achieved 100 points and 100 goals in a season. I think the way we gained promotion was very impressive, shrugging and saying he just did what was expected seems incredibly harsh. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:15 - Jun 9 with 2777 views | berkstractorboy |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:55 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
We only failed to make 100 pts cos S so**ing W fans cheated us out of 2 pts at Hillsborough by the most despicable means |
Or failed to hold a 2 goal lead in injury time ... | | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:26 - Jun 9 with 2714 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:15 - Jun 9 by berkstractorboy |
Or failed to hold a 2 goal lead in injury time ... |
You miss the point. What happened at H'boro was outside our control. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:34 - Jun 9 with 2669 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:26 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
You miss the point. What happened at H'boro was outside our control. |
Was it? If we defended it better they wouldn't have scored. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:38 - Jun 9 with 2649 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:55 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
We only failed to make 100 pts cos S so**ing W fans cheated us out of 2 pts at Hillsborough by the most despicable means |
There were literally dozens of games where we could have taken those extra couple of points and didn't.
Our season wasn't defined by just one game. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:52 - Jun 9 with 2597 views | Herbivore |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:34 - Jun 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Was it? If we defended it better they wouldn't have scored. |
It's hard to defend against someone who is 2 yards ahead of the last defender. That's why we have the offside rule. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:55 - Jun 9 with 2567 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:52 - Jun 9 by Herbivore |
It's hard to defend against someone who is 2 yards ahead of the last defender. That's why we have the offside rule. |
They scored 2 tho. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:58 - Jun 9 with 2543 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:55 - Jun 9 by FrimleyBlue |
They scored 2 tho. |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:09 - Jun 9 with 2478 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:58 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
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What's up? You said what happened there was out of our control. Yet we conceded 2 goals. He may have been offside to head it home. But we didn't stop the cross to. Egin with either. So it was technically in our control. And had we not conceded the first one then the 2nd wouldn't have mattered.
It doesn't really matter in anyway.. just found it odd that you felt that result wasn't in our control. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:13 - Jun 9 with 2457 views | hoppy |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 15:26 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
You miss the point. What happened at H'boro was outside our control. |
A bit like a foggy Oxford... |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:14 - Jun 9 with 2446 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:09 - Jun 9 by FrimleyBlue |
What's up? You said what happened there was out of our control. Yet we conceded 2 goals. He may have been offside to head it home. But we didn't stop the cross to. Egin with either. So it was technically in our control. And had we not conceded the first one then the 2nd wouldn't have mattered.
It doesn't really matter in anyway.. just found it odd that you felt that result wasn't in our control. |
Errr - it finished a 2-2 draw - if they hadn't cheated the second goal by intimidating officials with coin etc throwing, we'd have won 2-1 & got the extra 2 points to make the 100.
No wonder people sometimes scratch their heads over you - you're coming across as more a SW fan than a Town one here. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:18 - Jun 9 with 2430 views | SheffordBlue |
We really do need to buck up our ideas about posting on this topic. The equivalent Leicester thread about who they want for the next manager is currently up to Page 197 while we're currently on a fairly miserable 5 pages | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:20 - Jun 9 with 2403 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:14 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
Errr - it finished a 2-2 draw - if they hadn't cheated the second goal by intimidating officials with coin etc throwing, we'd have won 2-1 & got the extra 2 points to make the 100.
No wonder people sometimes scratch their heads over you - you're coming across as more a SW fan than a Town one here. |
I highly doubt anyone thinks I'm a sheff wed fan.
I get what you're saying. But without conceding the first goal.. we'd have won 1-2 with the offside goal anyway.. getting the extra 2 points you speak of. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:21 - Jun 9 with 2406 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:14 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
Errr - it finished a 2-2 draw - if they hadn't cheated the second goal by intimidating officials with coin etc throwing, we'd have won 2-1 & got the extra 2 points to make the 100.
No wonder people sometimes scratch their heads over you - you're coming across as more a SW fan than a Town one here. |
It wasn't just Sheffield Wednesday - we could add Harness' goal at home to Barnsley to that list too. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:21 - Jun 9 with 2399 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:18 - Jun 9 by SheffordBlue |
We really do need to buck up our ideas about posting on this topic. The equivalent Leicester thread about who they want for the next manager is currently up to Page 197 while we're currently on a fairly miserable 5 pages |
Just need some edgelord to all him ‘smarmy’ and we’ll be well on our way to 30 pages… | | | |
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