| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna 12:38 - Jun 8 with 27476 views | UppaTowen78 |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 17:13 - Jun 8 with 2435 views | jaykay |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:42 - Jun 8 by chicoazul |
Potter probably got a 12m pay off and would walk into all but about 5 clubs in the country and loads abroad. I don’t think this is the failure you think it is. |
i said the big clubs dont give you time that's why he crashed and burned. he never had the time like he did at the other clubs. i never used the word failure because if had time he would have had success |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 17:54 - Jun 8 with 2326 views | Nomore4 |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 17:13 - Jun 8 by jaykay |
i said the big clubs dont give you time that's why he crashed and burned. he never had the time like he did at the other clubs. i never used the word failure because if had time he would have had success |
The facts remain. We managed to secure 2nd place in the 3rd division. This after huge investment in the winter window. The time KMcK has spent at ITFC he has had the luxury of the biggest budget versus any rival. Which makes Plymouth’s achievement really something. | | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:11 - Jun 8 with 2275 views | Illinoisblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:26 - Jun 8 by SomethingBlue |
It's true if we are talking about club infrastructures and, digressing slightly, it's why I feel very uncomfortable every time I see someone taking for granted that Norwich will be trailing in our wake a year from now. These clubs all have a massive head start on us and won't need too many tweaks to be put back on course; we're firmly on the right path but the chances are it will take a number of years to achieve parity, if indeed we ever manage it. |
Light years apart in the same division is us and Accrington or FGR. I just don’t see that chasm with us and Leicester. Agree re Norwich; they seem to be recruiting experience and steel which will probably serve them well. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:12 - Jun 8 with 2266 views | portmanking |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:11 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue |
Light years apart in the same division is us and Accrington or FGR. I just don’t see that chasm with us and Leicester. Agree re Norwich; they seem to be recruiting experience and steel which will probably serve them well. |
In the stands, there's probably little to separate us.
Off the field, there's an enormous gap to bridge. Their training facilities are some of the best on the planet, let alone England. | | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:27 - Jun 8 with 2221 views | Bluedandy |
Leicester are no bigger just much wealthier .. it's not the same.
Bloated on Sky money Brentford can outspend Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Sheff Wed with ease but are tiddlers in comparison likewise Bournemouth.
It took until 2021 for Leicester to win the FA Cup for the first time in their history, even Wigan got their first, never mind Wimbledon.
TV's financial steroids have bankrolled an overhaul in its infrastructure but just in its own neck of the woods Leicester are similar in size to Derby or Forest.
In seven years they've gone from Premier League champions to the Championship, who's to say it couldn't get worse.
They could easily screw up their start and a comparative rookie like McKenna would be given little time, promotion isn't a project for them ... it's a dire emergency. [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 18:36]
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:27 - Jun 8 with 2220 views | Whos_blue |
For me a lot of this will hinge on whether KM thinks he's done enough here to put himself amongst the big boys yet. Other than money and a bit part prem squad, I don't think the step up is massive, but totally accept they clearly edge us as it stands.
I think Gamechanger and Ashton have their man and will do all they can, including backing him as much as the financial plan allows.
On top of this, I feel KM will want a good championship campaign on his CV and whilst LCFC may be able to offer him that, our whole club structure revolves around providing the very best platform for success and I just get the feeling KM isn't quite ready to walk away from his first managerial job just yet. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:30 - Jun 8 with 2211 views | pointofblue |
This will no doubt get down votes but we need to put McKenna's achievements in perspective. He got one of the top two most expensively accrued squads over the line on the penultimate weekend, falling shy of 100 points when the lesser spending Plymouth managed it. We went three months without managing two successive wins. Our run in was a massive achievement but aided by the January signings, bought in at quite an expense for the third level of English football.
McKenna matched expectations rather than exceed them and, for that reason, I expect him to be here at the start of the season. If he has us around the top six come the new year and beyond, then the vultures will really start to circle. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:48 - Jun 8 with 2156 views | BiGDonnie |
I think he stays with us until one of the big boys come calling. He will want to stay with us to see what he can achieve this season as a minimum.
I'd be absolutely gutted to lose him, worse than any player we've lost in the past, but we've got so many good people in key positions at the club that it wouldn't be the end of the world. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:01 - Jun 8 with 2108 views | Powrigan |
If he goes to Leicester he will be sacked before the end of next season. |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:04 - Jun 8 with 2093 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:30 - Jun 8 by pointofblue |
This will no doubt get down votes but we need to put McKenna's achievements in perspective. He got one of the top two most expensively accrued squads over the line on the penultimate weekend, falling shy of 100 points when the lesser spending Plymouth managed it. We went three months without managing two successive wins. Our run in was a massive achievement but aided by the January signings, bought in at quite an expense for the third level of English football.
McKenna matched expectations rather than exceed them and, for that reason, I expect him to be here at the start of the season. If he has us around the top six come the new year and beyond, then the vultures will really start to circle. |
1 Top 6 by New Year and there is even less point in deserting us than there would be now.
2 He would not accelerate his career by achieving top 6 with Leicester, but getting there with ITFC would be seen as very good work. | | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:12 - Jun 8 with 2068 views | AbujaBlue |
I think some people here are underestimating the desire of Gamechanger Ltd. to get Ipswich into the Premier League - it is the whole basis of their ownership model. Losing McKenna will damage this model considerably. We may not have Leicester type resources this season, but we aren't exactly minnows. |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:16 - Jun 8 with 2039 views | Illinoisblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:12 - Jun 8 by portmanking |
In the stands, there's probably little to separate us.
Off the field, there's an enormous gap to bridge. Their training facilities are some of the best on the planet, let alone England. |
To which the (admittedly simplistic) response would be; if their facilities for training are so good, why did they get relegated?
Obviously their setup is impressive - almost on a par with some American high schools! - but good coaching and team spirit huge factors, too. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:25 - Jun 8 with 2007 views | NeedhamChris |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:16 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue |
To which the (admittedly simplistic) response would be; if their facilities for training are so good, why did they get relegated?
Obviously their setup is impressive - almost on a par with some American high schools! - but good coaching and team spirit huge factors, too. |
To which an equally simplistic response would be - if we're so big then why did we languish in the third tier for 4 years | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:29 - Jun 8 with 1994 views | Illinoisblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:25 - Jun 8 by NeedhamChris |
To which an equally simplistic response would be - if we're so big then why did we languish in the third tier for 4 years |
Because Evans willful neglect and decay/Hurst/Lambert/Cook. Take your pick. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:32 - Jun 8 with 1982 views | le2blue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:16 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue |
To which the (admittedly simplistic) response would be; if their facilities for training are so good, why did they get relegated?
Obviously their setup is impressive - almost on a par with some American high schools! - but good coaching and team spirit huge factors, too. |
Having elite facilities isn’t automatically a good thing without strong leadership at an evolving club. I know a few of their coaches well, including the academy age group lead coaches, they’re having a big debate at the moment as part of the season review about the impact their training campus has had on the first team and academy. As an example, the first team have had waiting staff in their restaurant, personal massage teams, golf caddies on the course they have and the first team have been separated from the rest of the players. In short they’ve become very very pampered. Very different to Belvoir Drive their old training ground which is not dissimilar to playford road.
The academy and u21s are also very separated and their concern is that the wrong culture has taken hold, arrogance and complacency. Need a big overhaul of players, staff and some really strong elite leadership.
Apparently they really want to get Potter, hopefully they do. [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 19:35]
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:38 - Jun 8 with 1948 views | Illinoisblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:32 - Jun 8 by le2blue |
Having elite facilities isn’t automatically a good thing without strong leadership at an evolving club. I know a few of their coaches well, including the academy age group lead coaches, they’re having a big debate at the moment as part of the season review about the impact their training campus has had on the first team and academy. As an example, the first team have had waiting staff in their restaurant, personal massage teams, golf caddies on the course they have and the first team have been separated from the rest of the players. In short they’ve become very very pampered. Very different to Belvoir Drive their old training ground which is not dissimilar to playford road.
The academy and u21s are also very separated and their concern is that the wrong culture has taken hold, arrogance and complacency. Need a big overhaul of players, staff and some really strong elite leadership.
Apparently they really want to get Potter, hopefully they do. [Post edited 8 Jun 2023 19:35]
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That’s some genuinely interesting insight behind the scenes. Their own caddies… wtf! And yes, Potter would be an excellent choice for them. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:39 - Jun 8 with 1940 views | RadioOrwell |
What's funny is that we are now worried because we have a manager who got us promoted and is brilliant and now everyone wants him.
Isn't that what we f.....kn wanted all along ??????????????? |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:46 - Jun 8 with 1912 views | jontysnut |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 14:06 - Jun 8 by Big_Jase |
He only has 2 years left on his deal here. If you can get a 4 year deal out of Leicester with most likely a massive pay rise and plenty of money to spend, it’s a big thing to turn down.
We all think we have money to spend but until we start seeing what sort of transfers we are actually going to bring in at this level, we don’t really know.
Leicester, Leeds & Southampton will have budgets that far surpass Ipswich’s. If you back yourself to get Leicester right (which you would hope any manager worth their salt would), it could progress his career even quicker than it would be at Town. Would be a risk but I think it’s much harder to turn down that people think. |
He's early into his career. Who needs dysfunctional Leeds, basket case Leicester or goldfish bowl Celtic. I reckon he'll give the championship a crack and then see what happens. |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:59 - Jun 8 with 1868 views | itfcjoe |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 16:39 - Jun 8 by jaykay |
ask a mr potter about a step up. chelsea were still in the premier league not relegated like leicester and he crashed and burned .the grass is not always greener. these big clubs dont give managers time to sort things out. |
Ask Rob Edwards about stepping up from Forest Green to Watford, sacked within weeks and still attractive to a Champ club a few weeks later and now a PL manager |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:05 - Jun 8 with 1817 views | Ryorry |
I think KM is more intelligent than many posters on this thread & has more vision.
I'd say he can see he has the opportunity to build something really remarkable here, out of the sinkhole that ME let us fall into. Wouldn't be surprised if he's inspired by SAR, SBR, the Cobbolds' approach, and now Gamechanger.
If he can follow a similar route to SBR, or Burley (but take us further than Burley) & himself fashion us into a club that can hold its head up high in the top tier, that'd be an achievement far bigger than falling into a 'ready made' 'big' club like LC, which seems a bit like a poisoned chalice to me. Getting them promoted is just the expectation, no kudos. Fail and get nothing but stick.
Some people have also forgotten that he's only just completed his first full season as a manager, shown he has the capacity & flexibility to implement change when things aren't going well; has an eye for which players he needs to bring in & gets that done with owners' full backing & MA's shrewdness. If he were a player, you'd say he's a 22-year old who has huge capacity to develop, improve & go on much, much further.
I'd be bitterly disappointed if he fell down the money route instead of building a much bigger career by trying to take us back to dizzying heights, but think he's astute enough to make the 'correct'  choice.. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:09 - Jun 8 with 1769 views | Bramidan |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 19:59 - Jun 8 by itfcjoe |
Ask Rob Edwards about stepping up from Forest Green to Watford, sacked within weeks and still attractive to a Champ club a few weeks later and now a PL manager |
Somebody posted premiership managers get £5 to £6 million a year?
So why wouldn’t you move? Make sure the contract is good, get a huge pay off if you are sacked and get another job even at a lower level.
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:10 - Jun 8 with 1762 views | Lord_Lucan |
I don’t think he would go to Leicester but I would think he would go to Celtic given the opportunity |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:11 - Jun 8 with 2704 views | the_toff |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 18:30 - Jun 8 by pointofblue |
This will no doubt get down votes but we need to put McKenna's achievements in perspective. He got one of the top two most expensively accrued squads over the line on the penultimate weekend, falling shy of 100 points when the lesser spending Plymouth managed it. We went three months without managing two successive wins. Our run in was a massive achievement but aided by the January signings, bought in at quite an expense for the third level of English football.
McKenna matched expectations rather than exceed them and, for that reason, I expect him to be here at the start of the season. If he has us around the top six come the new year and beyond, then the vultures will really start to circle. |
You don't recruit a new manager based on glancing at a league table and weighing it up vs. expectations though. It's a factor, but it's deeper than that. Yes we had the resources that should've been enough to compete towards the top of league 1, but the way we did it and dominance we showed throughout the season was exceptional. He's heading for the top and will be on the radar of a lot of clubs further up the food chain when they change manager. Neil Warnock might've got us 98 points last season and 2nd place, that's true, but McKenna is impressive for many more reasons than the league standings. | | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:31 - Jun 8 with 2619 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Something that counts against managers that go to struggling big teams is if they don't have a lot of credentials. Big players at clubs like Leicester who have PL winners medals, FA Cup winners medals. What does McKenna have? No playing career to speak of, and only managed in the 3rd tier. Some of those big egos are gonna struggle to have respect for someone like McKenna. I think it's too early for McKenna to jump ship. At his age, he needs to think about the long game. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:49 - Jun 8 with 2530 views | Churchman |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:05 - Jun 8 by Ryorry |
I think KM is more intelligent than many posters on this thread & has more vision.
I'd say he can see he has the opportunity to build something really remarkable here, out of the sinkhole that ME let us fall into. Wouldn't be surprised if he's inspired by SAR, SBR, the Cobbolds' approach, and now Gamechanger.
If he can follow a similar route to SBR, or Burley (but take us further than Burley) & himself fashion us into a club that can hold its head up high in the top tier, that'd be an achievement far bigger than falling into a 'ready made' 'big' club like LC, which seems a bit like a poisoned chalice to me. Getting them promoted is just the expectation, no kudos. Fail and get nothing but stick.
Some people have also forgotten that he's only just completed his first full season as a manager, shown he has the capacity & flexibility to implement change when things aren't going well; has an eye for which players he needs to bring in & gets that done with owners' full backing & MA's shrewdness. If he were a player, you'd say he's a 22-year old who has huge capacity to develop, improve & go on much, much further.
I'd be bitterly disappointed if he fell down the money route instead of building a much bigger career by trying to take us back to dizzying heights, but think he's astute enough to make the 'correct' choice.. |
The point is that if he achieves something here, he will gain more ‘credit’ from it than if he gets Leicester back in the PL which is what will be expected even if they lose all 11 first team players and a few more besides.
The true opportunity for KM is here and providing his relationship with MA and the owners is good and his family is happy in Suffolk, why move? Come what may he’s going to be paid well here, LCFC, Celtic or wherever. At some stage if he is successful, he will move on. If he does particularly well, it’ll be to Spurs or somebody bigger. Why go to a basket case like Leicester at this time?
I’ll be surprised if he does. But if he does, one thing should be remembered. The club is bigger than any one person. That includes the manager. That’s even more relevant now ITFC has a structure, decent backing and is moving forwards.
I really hope he stays, but if he doesn’t, so be it. We will move on onwards and hopefully upwards. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 4:57]
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