| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna 12:38 - Jun 8 with 27497 views | UppaTowen78 |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 22:17 - Jun 8 with 3814 views | Vic |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 17:04 - Jun 8 by tractorboy1978 |
Have a day off! |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 22:32 - Jun 8 with 3772 views | strikalite |
Potter is the 5/4 favourite, KM isn't even on the list...about 10th on the list is Carrick 18/1, doubt they'd get it so wrong..
Parker with two promotions to the Prem with much lower budgets is third fav, just can't see them risking a guy with just one full season under his belt with such a big job, not saying he couldn't do it but it'd be a huge risk they don't need to take.. |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 00:35 - Jun 9 with 3596 views | Vegtablue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:05 - Jun 8 by Ryorry |
I think KM is more intelligent than many posters on this thread & has more vision.
I'd say he can see he has the opportunity to build something really remarkable here, out of the sinkhole that ME let us fall into. Wouldn't be surprised if he's inspired by SAR, SBR, the Cobbolds' approach, and now Gamechanger.
If he can follow a similar route to SBR, or Burley (but take us further than Burley) & himself fashion us into a club that can hold its head up high in the top tier, that'd be an achievement far bigger than falling into a 'ready made' 'big' club like LC, which seems a bit like a poisoned chalice to me. Getting them promoted is just the expectation, no kudos. Fail and get nothing but stick.
Some people have also forgotten that he's only just completed his first full season as a manager, shown he has the capacity & flexibility to implement change when things aren't going well; has an eye for which players he needs to bring in & gets that done with owners' full backing & MA's shrewdness. If he were a player, you'd say he's a 22-year old who has huge capacity to develop, improve & go on much, much further.
I'd be bitterly disappointed if he fell down the money route instead of building a much bigger career by trying to take us back to dizzying heights, but think he's astute enough to make the 'correct'  choice.. |
A splendid vision there Ryorry. Genuinely though, my mind would be blown if Ipswich folklore places prominently on his career road map or is used as a serious source of inspiration. Whisper it quietly but I hear Brendan Rodgers is a main source.. hopefully he doesn't wish to walk in those footsteps too quickly!
Now I'm (maybe naively) confident that he shouldn't be near the top of either's shortlist. I'm also optimistic he believes he has the tools to achieve our own objectives in a good timeframe. However, there's understandably a fan-focused mentality around managerial departures like these, that imprudence, short-termism or lack of ambition are at fault for them leaving before their time
Alternatively, it would be reasonable for McKenna to possess the self-belief that makes him feel ready to manage at the highest level available to him, and to embrace the pressure that a Leicester or Celtic gig would bring. Then onto his age, this is as much a call for patience as it is a driver for targeting age-related goals, depending on one's mindset. I don't believe his hypothetical departure would prove him a money grabber and kudos can be mined at even those clubs with the biggest competitive advantages, something Celtic managers have repeatedly demonstrated. Back-to-back promotions in tricky divisions would catapult skyward any fledgling manager's career, especially when delivered with a progressive style of play.
I will settle for him being too astute to find intelligent life in my third paragraph! | | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 02:10 - Jun 9 with 3551 views | ArchiRob |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 13:32 - Jun 8 by BseaBlue |
I can think of several million reasons why you are wrong........Sadly, everything to do with football now comes down to money. They would be offering him a significant salary and although they might lose plenty of players, that will provide large sums on top of the parachute payments for investment.
I reckon he bites their hand off if they want him. |
short term view - guess we glad you're not in charge. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 05:52 - Jun 9 with 3478 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:31 - Jun 8 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Something that counts against managers that go to struggling big teams is if they don't have a lot of credentials. Big players at clubs like Leicester who have PL winners medals, FA Cup winners medals. What does McKenna have? No playing career to speak of, and only managed in the 3rd tier. Some of those big egos are gonna struggle to have respect for someone like McKenna. I think it's too early for McKenna to jump ship. At his age, he needs to think about the long game. |
He worked with Pogba. I don’t think he’d have any trouble with a bunch of a Championship Charlies! |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 06:49 - Jun 9 with 3411 views | hoppy |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 12:40 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue |
In the same way I’ve asked to speak to Kylie Minogue. |
Any update on Kylie yet? |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 07:18 - Jun 9 with 3357 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 22:17 - Jun 8 by Vic |
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In what world would Rodgers come here if McKenna went tomorrow? | | | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:02 - Jun 9 with 3265 views | Swansea_Blue |
Don’t blame them. He’s the real deal. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:12 - Jun 9 with 3213 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:11 - Jun 8 by the_toff |
You don't recruit a new manager based on glancing at a league table and weighing it up vs. expectations though. It's a factor, but it's deeper than that. Yes we had the resources that should've been enough to compete towards the top of league 1, but the way we did it and dominance we showed throughout the season was exceptional. He's heading for the top and will be on the radar of a lot of clubs further up the food chain when they change manager. Neil Warnock might've got us 98 points last season and 2nd place, that's true, but McKenna is impressive for many more reasons than the league standings. |
We didn't really show dominance throughout the season, though. How many points off the top two were we after Bristol Rovers away? And, as said, we failed to win two on the bounce for nearly a quarter of the season. Dominating possession and playing some nice stuff is all well and good, but results are the key factor and we were on shaky ground for a while. The astounding run in enabled us to catch up and overtake, and is why McKenna is getting attention now. But will owners just be looking at that run or the season as a whole? If the latter, we'll be approached. If the former, I think they'll want to see him tested at a higher level before looking to appoint him. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:20 - Jun 9 with 3169 views | Herbivore |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:12 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
We didn't really show dominance throughout the season, though. How many points off the top two were we after Bristol Rovers away? And, as said, we failed to win two on the bounce for nearly a quarter of the season. Dominating possession and playing some nice stuff is all well and good, but results are the key factor and we were on shaky ground for a while. The astounding run in enabled us to catch up and overtake, and is why McKenna is getting attention now. But will owners just be looking at that run or the season as a whole? If the latter, we'll be approached. If the former, I think they'll want to see him tested at a higher level before looking to appoint him. |
Even during our shaky run we were dominating games, with a couple of exceptions. We were dominant all season, hence conceding the fewest goals and scoring the most, hence the highest xG for by a mile and the lowest xG against by a similarly large margin. McKenna had us playing attractive football that was also very effective. Sure we had a challenging spell mid season but the first and last thirds results fully matched performances and we were the best side in the league. I know you are reluctant to give him credit but it's not hard to see why people outside Town might be very impressed with what he's done here. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:26 - Jun 9 with 3130 views | pennblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:02 - Jun 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Don’t blame them. He’s the real deal. |
I wonder if this is what Mike O'Leary was going to meet the US owners about yesterday, ie. an official approach has been made. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:34 - Jun 9 with 3081 views | Metal_Hacker |
Whilst it would bloody hurt to lose him , let's worry about it IF it actually happens
We're in good hands under GameChanger however this pans out
High blood pressure aint good guys |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:39 - Jun 9 with 3057 views | itfcjoe |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:12 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
We didn't really show dominance throughout the season, though. How many points off the top two were we after Bristol Rovers away? And, as said, we failed to win two on the bounce for nearly a quarter of the season. Dominating possession and playing some nice stuff is all well and good, but results are the key factor and we were on shaky ground for a while. The astounding run in enabled us to catch up and overtake, and is why McKenna is getting attention now. But will owners just be looking at that run or the season as a whole? If the latter, we'll be approached. If the former, I think they'll want to see him tested at a higher level before looking to appoint him. |
By every metric going we were the dominant team in the league - just look at the Opta site
Attacking
Shots - 1st
Open Play xG - 1st
Open Play Goals - 1st
Set Piece Shots - 2nd
Set Piece xG - 1st
Set Piece Goals - 1st
Defence
Shots - 1st
Open Play xG - 1st
Open Play Goals - 1st
Set Piece Shots - 1st
Set Piece xG - 4th
Set Piece Goals - 9th
On the ball
Most passes, most possession, dominated ball in every area of pitch, most sequences, most shot ending sequences
Pressing intensity - 2nd
High Turnovers - 3rd
Shots from high turnovers - 1st
It's a level of dominance that no one in the game will fail to notice |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:42 - Jun 9 with 3034 views | pennblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:34 - Jun 9 by Metal_Hacker |
Whilst it would bloody hurt to lose him , let's worry about it IF it actually happens
We're in good hands under GameChanger however this pans out
High blood pressure aint good guys |
Well I think if you look at clubs like Brighton and Brentford, we have to have plans in place for this eventuality. However, it does not usually affect the momentum if the overall fabric of the club is strong, which it not appears to be.
It would still be hugely disruptive and it is really annoying that Leicester City might be considered a step up from us, when we are very similar in terms of size of club. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:46 - Jun 9 with 3023 views | BseaBlue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 02:10 - Jun 9 by ArchiRob |
short term view - guess we glad you're not in charge. |
Football is a short-term industry sadly. I haven't said I want him to go either so not sure what you are going on about RE me being in charge. |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 09:27 - Jun 9 with 2934 views | BiGDonnie |
Ah man. Honestly, I'd be absolutely gutted.
Who would(could) we attract as a replacement?
Potter? Rodgers?
Edit - sod Rodgers & Potter, let's announce Mowbray. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 9:36]
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 09:35 - Jun 9 with 2905 views | gtsb1966 |
Hasn't he said recently that his family are settled in the area. Maybe he wouldn't want to uproot them so quickly. If he does go though I have every faith in the club to get the right replacement in. If he is going I expect it to be done quickly. |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 09:50 - Jun 9 with 2820 views | pointofblue |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:39 - Jun 9 by itfcjoe |
By every metric going we were the dominant team in the league - just look at the Opta site
Attacking
Shots - 1st
Open Play xG - 1st
Open Play Goals - 1st
Set Piece Shots - 2nd
Set Piece xG - 1st
Set Piece Goals - 1st
Defence
Shots - 1st
Open Play xG - 1st
Open Play Goals - 1st
Set Piece Shots - 1st
Set Piece xG - 4th
Set Piece Goals - 9th
On the ball
Most passes, most possession, dominated ball in every area of pitch, most sequences, most shot ending sequences
Pressing intensity - 2nd
High Turnovers - 3rd
Shots from high turnovers - 1st
It's a level of dominance that no one in the game will fail to notice |
Football isn't a performance based, it's results based. From November to February we couldn't get over the line in too many games where should have done. That side of it only clicked when the January signings bedded in and we could call on a fully fit Luongo. McKenna did his job but was very much assisted by the finance advantage we had and the moves in the winter window.
I want McKenna to stay. I think he's one of the brightest young managers in the game right now, if not the number one. But last year was little more than matching expectations. We had the financial clout to expect automatic promotion, and that's what we managed. | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 09:52 - Jun 9 with 2807 views | ArchiRob |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 08:46 - Jun 9 by BseaBlue |
Football is a short-term industry sadly. I haven't said I want him to go either so not sure what you are going on about RE me being in charge. |
It's your assumption that everything is money 💰 orientated I suspect KM has very high ambitions that will go above a short term injection of cash.
I.e I believe KM will look at long term plans to manage a top club whereas your inference is you would grab the cash and leave if you were manager? | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:01 - Jun 9 with 2761 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 20:49 - Jun 8 by Churchman |
The point is that if he achieves something here, he will gain more ‘credit’ from it than if he gets Leicester back in the PL which is what will be expected even if they lose all 11 first team players and a few more besides.
The true opportunity for KM is here and providing his relationship with MA and the owners is good and his family is happy in Suffolk, why move? Come what may he’s going to be paid well here, LCFC, Celtic or wherever. At some stage if he is successful, he will move on. If he does particularly well, it’ll be to Spurs or somebody bigger. Why go to a basket case like Leicester at this time?
I’ll be surprised if he does. But if he does, one thing should be remembered. The club is bigger than any one person. That includes the manager. That’s even more relevant now ITFC has a structure, decent backing and is moving forwards.
I really hope he stays, but if he doesn’t, so be it. We will move on onwards and hopefully upwards. [Post edited 9 Jun 2023 4:57]
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You summarise my view in your first para much more succinctly than I was able to do!
Good point re family too. I don't see any reason why the good man manager, decent guy & super-analytical mind that got us playing well & promoted wouldn't be strengths that don't also apply in his personal life, and I'm sure the best interests of his family, if they're happy & settled in Suffolk, will be uppermost in his mind when it comes to decision-making. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:07 - Jun 9 with 2738 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 00:35 - Jun 9 by Vegtablue |
A splendid vision there Ryorry. Genuinely though, my mind would be blown if Ipswich folklore places prominently on his career road map or is used as a serious source of inspiration. Whisper it quietly but I hear Brendan Rodgers is a main source.. hopefully he doesn't wish to walk in those footsteps too quickly!
Now I'm (maybe naively) confident that he shouldn't be near the top of either's shortlist. I'm also optimistic he believes he has the tools to achieve our own objectives in a good timeframe. However, there's understandably a fan-focused mentality around managerial departures like these, that imprudence, short-termism or lack of ambition are at fault for them leaving before their time
Alternatively, it would be reasonable for McKenna to possess the self-belief that makes him feel ready to manage at the highest level available to him, and to embrace the pressure that a Leicester or Celtic gig would bring. Then onto his age, this is as much a call for patience as it is a driver for targeting age-related goals, depending on one's mindset. I don't believe his hypothetical departure would prove him a money grabber and kudos can be mined at even those clubs with the biggest competitive advantages, something Celtic managers have repeatedly demonstrated. Back-to-back promotions in tricky divisions would catapult skyward any fledgling manager's career, especially when delivered with a progressive style of play.
I will settle for him being too astute to find intelligent life in my third paragraph! |
Interesting post :)
Let's just say
"You may call me a dreamer
But I'm not the only one".
There's the Mourinho connection as well.
OK, I'm a diehard romantic - but in football, fans are allowed to dream - and so are staff and players!  | |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:37 - Jun 9 with 2598 views | Horsham |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:07 - Jun 9 by Ryorry |
Interesting post :)
Let's just say
"You may call me a dreamer
But I'm not the only one".
There's the Mourinho connection as well.
OK, I'm a diehard romantic - but in football, fans are allowed to dream - and so are staff and players! |
It’s not totally unreasonable that staying at Ipswich might be better for his career and there’s the human factors such as his family to consider. The job security here will exceed what he’d have at Leicester too! |  | | |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:38 - Jun 9 with 2582 views | LankHenners |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 09:50 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
Football isn't a performance based, it's results based. From November to February we couldn't get over the line in too many games where should have done. That side of it only clicked when the January signings bedded in and we could call on a fully fit Luongo. McKenna did his job but was very much assisted by the finance advantage we had and the moves in the winter window.
I want McKenna to stay. I think he's one of the brightest young managers in the game right now, if not the number one. But last year was little more than matching expectations. We had the financial clout to expect automatic promotion, and that's what we managed. |
That's nonsense though really as it's both and it's very very odd to argue otherwise. Obviously we were a big fish in a small pond and did what was expected of us but we did it in the end a whisker off 100 points 100 goals which would be universally seen as a seriously, seriously impressive achievement regardless of the size of club relative to the league. That we reached near that goal with the form across the season broadly going great-average-outstanding rather than great all the way through isn't really relevant.
Fans of certain other clubs hate it but you listen to/read any neutral, objective analysis of league one by pundits, writers etc. and they all couldn't speak highly enough of us, generally feeling that we were very unlucky not to have romped home with the title. McKenna's impressed everyone that's laid eyes on him and his team or heard him speak, there's a reason his stock is rising rapidly in the game and that's largely down to the performance levels achieved whilst getting results. |  |
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| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 10:50 - Jun 9 with 2523 views | itfcjoe |
| Leicester ask to speak to McKenna on 09:50 - Jun 9 by pointofblue |
Football isn't a performance based, it's results based. From November to February we couldn't get over the line in too many games where should have done. That side of it only clicked when the January signings bedded in and we could call on a fully fit Luongo. McKenna did his job but was very much assisted by the finance advantage we had and the moves in the winter window.
I want McKenna to stay. I think he's one of the brightest young managers in the game right now, if not the number one. But last year was little more than matching expectations. We had the financial clout to expect automatic promotion, and that's what we managed. |
Performances point to results, all the smart recruiters look at underlying performances and this is where McKenna excels - couple that with basically a 100 point-100 goal season then it's clear it is results as well as performances | |
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