Lack of reporting Hirst 18:56 - Jul 12 with 17108 views | bluesbrothers | Isn’t it just a bit weird for local press and twtd not to report on Hirst at this point? Club must really have them by the balls these days… |  | | |  |
"Both sides are right depending on what side of that fence you are." on 14:06 - Jul 13 with 1942 views | Dyland |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:00 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | Both sides are right depending on what side of that fence you are. Apart from your example. Anything in yellow is never right. |
What a world you live in! Just because you think it's right doesn't make it so, not to everyone else, or in any objective sense. I'm talking purely about TWTD's relationship with ITFC re when stories are published... we could also go down a Stoppard rabbit hole about reality and the common experience, but let's not :) |  |
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"Both sides are right depending on what side of that fence you are." on 14:10 - Jul 13 with 1915 views | FrimleyBlue |
"Both sides are right depending on what side of that fence you are." on 14:06 - Jul 13 by Dyland | What a world you live in! Just because you think it's right doesn't make it so, not to everyone else, or in any objective sense. I'm talking purely about TWTD's relationship with ITFC re when stories are published... we could also go down a Stoppard rabbit hole about reality and the common experience, but let's not :) |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:11 - Jul 13 with 1914 views | J2BLUE |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:02 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | Looks quite good when you look at the hirst pic. Also. My point yesterday wasn't about me wanting news. It was my personal belief about journo freedom. |
You are talking rubbish and have spent so long arguing the point that you probably don't want to just admit you got it wrong. The club asked to keep it quiet. They didn't demand it. Why do you think they wanted to keep it quiet? Clearly there was other interest in Hirst and the club knew they were getting a good deal. This has nothing to do with journalistic freedom. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:17 - Jul 13 with 1878 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:11 - Jul 13 by J2BLUE | You are talking rubbish and have spent so long arguing the point that you probably don't want to just admit you got it wrong. The club asked to keep it quiet. They didn't demand it. Why do you think they wanted to keep it quiet? Clearly there was other interest in Hirst and the club knew they were getting a good deal. This has nothing to do with journalistic freedom. |
I'm not actually arguing the point. Just advising the poster that he was Incorrect about what was being discussed. I think the medical issue was the reason they asked to keep it quiet. Phil did say hirst would only join town. So no not other clubs being interested. You're also making it specific about this one situation. Whereas the whole club stopping journo freedom is more about the overall situation not 1 signing. I did howver find this one bizarre to censor the journos when the players car was seen. But hey how many times can you go over the same thing. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:19 - Jul 13 with 1858 views | J2BLUE |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:17 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | I'm not actually arguing the point. Just advising the poster that he was Incorrect about what was being discussed. I think the medical issue was the reason they asked to keep it quiet. Phil did say hirst would only join town. So no not other clubs being interested. You're also making it specific about this one situation. Whereas the whole club stopping journo freedom is more about the overall situation not 1 signing. I did howver find this one bizarre to censor the journos when the players car was seen. But hey how many times can you go over the same thing. |
You're right we can't and you'e still missing the point. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:24 - Jul 13 with 1833 views | GavTWTD |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:17 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | I'm not actually arguing the point. Just advising the poster that he was Incorrect about what was being discussed. I think the medical issue was the reason they asked to keep it quiet. Phil did say hirst would only join town. So no not other clubs being interested. You're also making it specific about this one situation. Whereas the whole club stopping journo freedom is more about the overall situation not 1 signing. I did howver find this one bizarre to censor the journos when the players car was seen. But hey how many times can you go over the same thing. |
What did you want the story to say? It would have been "Hirst seen in Ipswich" along with a potted history of what happened last season and some tweets of cars. In reality, you wouldn't have learned anything, just confirmed what you'd seen on soshy meeds. Ahem. And made ITFC fans look a bit weird to the outside world. Oh and Phil saying that Hirst only wanted to come here doesn't mean other clubs weren't interested. If we couldn't agree terms he'd have gone somewhere else. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:26 - Jul 13 with 1814 views | bluesbrothers |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:37 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD | Maybe not, but feel I ought to be as transparent as possible. Not unusual for clubs to ask their local media to keep schtum on a signing until it's over the line in case it goes awry. |
Clearly this has spiraled, but on the whole I don't even disagree with that stance. My original point/post was that when it was literally all over twitter it felt a bit bizarre not to report anything. My concern is/was that if things are only going to get reported at a similar time to official announcements then it's going to devalue the site over time (which none of us want to happen). I'd be surprised if that hasn't crossed your mind as a concern too - it's not a dig as such. |  | |  |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:27 - Jul 13 with 1801 views | the_toff |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:15 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | Flash. Do you really not see a difference in how signing news is shown on here/eadt? Why do you think many posters joke about the imminent stuff. Historically you had Twtd understands town in for .... Twtd understand deal for ... Is close Twtd understands .... move is imminent Twtd.. town confirm... signing. What evidence are you looking for exactly? Ashton known for it in past Ashton bemoans transfer stories being shared publically Local journos stop posting transfer stories. Soon after.... I'm not spending all day going back over this and you're taking to someone else anyway. But I had to have my input here because I find it amazing that you don't see a difference. |
There's literally a story on the home page saying we're interested in Arsenal's Trusty. You're painting an atypical sequence of events with Hirst to be a norm. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
No one has been censored and no one is curtailing press freedom on 14:28 - Jul 13 with 1806 views | Dyland |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:17 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | I'm not actually arguing the point. Just advising the poster that he was Incorrect about what was being discussed. I think the medical issue was the reason they asked to keep it quiet. Phil did say hirst would only join town. So no not other clubs being interested. You're also making it specific about this one situation. Whereas the whole club stopping journo freedom is more about the overall situation not 1 signing. I did howver find this one bizarre to censor the journos when the players car was seen. But hey how many times can you go over the same thing. |
Stop being such a hyperbolic bollix spouting clown. You'll be quite fairly banned if you carry this on. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:30 - Jul 13 with 1795 views | Dyland |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:24 - Jul 13 by GavTWTD | What did you want the story to say? It would have been "Hirst seen in Ipswich" along with a potted history of what happened last season and some tweets of cars. In reality, you wouldn't have learned anything, just confirmed what you'd seen on soshy meeds. Ahem. And made ITFC fans look a bit weird to the outside world. Oh and Phil saying that Hirst only wanted to come here doesn't mean other clubs weren't interested. If we couldn't agree terms he'd have gone somewhere else. |
I hate to say things online I wouldn't say to people's faces, but I'm breaking that rule and calling out Frimmers for being, well, stupid. Sorry Frimmers. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:31 - Jul 13 with 1783 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:24 - Jul 13 by GavTWTD | What did you want the story to say? It would have been "Hirst seen in Ipswich" along with a potted history of what happened last season and some tweets of cars. In reality, you wouldn't have learned anything, just confirmed what you'd seen on soshy meeds. Ahem. And made ITFC fans look a bit weird to the outside world. Oh and Phil saying that Hirst only wanted to come here doesn't mean other clubs weren't interested. If we couldn't agree terms he'd have gone somewhere else. |
Of course gav goes without saying. But if we didn't offer good terms then that would have been our fault anyway. And it wasnt a secret he was in town anyway so no there was no danger of it causing an issue just because a journo posted about it. Imo. Again and this isn't about me personally... it was more how I feel twtd and eadt miss out by not being able to do your usual news stories about close signings. If you said it made 0 difference to you guys then fine and good to know. (Click rates etc etc) I just don't agree with journo blocking. |  |
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"it's going to devalue the site over time" on 14:33 - Jul 13 with 1766 views | Dyland |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:26 - Jul 13 by bluesbrothers | Clearly this has spiraled, but on the whole I don't even disagree with that stance. My original point/post was that when it was literally all over twitter it felt a bit bizarre not to report anything. My concern is/was that if things are only going to get reported at a similar time to official announcements then it's going to devalue the site over time (which none of us want to happen). I'd be surprised if that hasn't crossed your mind as a concern too - it's not a dig as such. |
It really won't. TWTD has always been like this. What should the "story" have been? A load of links to gossiping twonks on Twitter? Playing ball with the club is a net positive for this site, you can bet ya last dollar that if that wasn't the case they would not do it. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:38 - Jul 13 with 1747 views | the_toff |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:30 - Jul 13 by Dyland | I hate to say things online I wouldn't say to people's faces, but I'm breaking that rule and calling out Frimmers for being, well, stupid. Sorry Frimmers. |
I'm not sure if it's stupidity or laziness. There's absolutely no getting through to him, he regularly sh1ts himself in public and barely bothers to read anyone's replies, that much is evident from his posts. When called out for the nonsense he spouts he then ignores it. |  | |  |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:40 - Jul 13 with 1745 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:38 - Jul 13 by the_toff | I'm not sure if it's stupidity or laziness. There's absolutely no getting through to him, he regularly sh1ts himself in public and barely bothers to read anyone's replies, that much is evident from his posts. When called out for the nonsense he spouts he then ignores it. |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:50 - Jul 13 with 1696 views | J2BLUE |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:30 - Jul 13 by Dyland | I hate to say things online I wouldn't say to people's faces, but I'm breaking that rule and calling out Frimmers for being, well, stupid. Sorry Frimmers. |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 15:11 - Jul 13 with 1635 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:38 - Jul 13 by the_toff | I'm not sure if it's stupidity or laziness. There's absolutely no getting through to him, he regularly sh1ts himself in public and barely bothers to read anyone's replies, that much is evident from his posts. When called out for the nonsense he spouts he then ignores it. |
Dele Alli by the_toff 13 Jul 2023 10:27Just watched his interview with Neville. Comes across really well, and a reminder that there's a human being behind press articles and often underlying reasons that people don't see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyDL9EUIdy0 Interesting comparison between posts of yours today. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 15:20 - Jul 13 with 1610 views | DanTheMan |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:24 - Jul 13 by GavTWTD | What did you want the story to say? It would have been "Hirst seen in Ipswich" along with a potted history of what happened last season and some tweets of cars. In reality, you wouldn't have learned anything, just confirmed what you'd seen on soshy meeds. Ahem. And made ITFC fans look a bit weird to the outside world. Oh and Phil saying that Hirst only wanted to come here doesn't mean other clubs weren't interested. If we couldn't agree terms he'd have gone somewhere else. |
Soshy meeds will never fail to make me laugh. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:24 - Jul 13 with 1501 views | the_toff |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 15:11 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | Dele Alli by the_toff 13 Jul 2023 10:27Just watched his interview with Neville. Comes across really well, and a reminder that there's a human being behind press articles and often underlying reasons that people don't see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyDL9EUIdy0 Interesting comparison between posts of yours today. |
What's interesting about it? I've never interacted directly with Dele. Or do you have a ghost writer for TWTD that's misinterpreting your absolute bobbins? |  | |  |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:27 - Jul 13 with 1487 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:27 - Jul 13 by the_toff | There's literally a story on the home page saying we're interested in Arsenal's Trusty. You're painting an atypical sequence of events with Hirst to be a norm. |
Excellent point. I see the Frim-meister has already ignored it, as per. Anything that doesn't fit his world-view he just deflects and/or merrily skips on past it. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:44 - Jul 13 with 1424 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:27 - Jul 13 by the_toff | There's literally a story on the home page saying we're interested in Arsenal's Trusty. You're painting an atypical sequence of events with Hirst to be a norm. |
We are interested in alot of players. If it changes to 'in talks or closing in etc then it's a good sign. But I'll be surprised if we are really in for him if the club has allowed them to post about him.. what with all the risks of other clubs nipping in and stealing players due to news stories which posters have said is the reason for silence on transfer moves. Hopefully we are tho. Cracking player. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:45 - Jul 13 with 1418 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:27 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile | Excellent point. I see the Frim-meister has already ignored it, as per. Anything that doesn't fit his world-view he just deflects and/or merrily skips on past it. |
Nope didn't see it. Replied now tho. Sorry. I see you haven't answered the question put to you earlier tho. ;) |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:48 - Jul 13 with 1406 views | the_toff |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:44 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | We are interested in alot of players. If it changes to 'in talks or closing in etc then it's a good sign. But I'll be surprised if we are really in for him if the club has allowed them to post about him.. what with all the risks of other clubs nipping in and stealing players due to news stories which posters have said is the reason for silence on transfer moves. Hopefully we are tho. Cracking player. |
Yeah, wasn't like TWTD or EADT had speculated Taylor coming in either. Completely out of the blue that one, caught us right off guard. Some talk of 'moving on' (which probably had a semblance of truth in it anyway) only after months and months of being linked, reporting of offers turned down etc. Anyway, still curious as to what the link is between Dele being misrepresented by the media and you chatting nonsense on here. [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 16:51]
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 17:23 - Jul 13 with 1340 views | Leaky |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:27 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile | Excellent point. I see the Frim-meister has already ignored it, as per. Anything that doesn't fit his world-view he just deflects and/or merrily skips on past it. |
I think your 2nd paragraph reflects on quite a few poster's on here. Particularly on the political threads |  | |  |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 18:00 - Jul 13 with 1283 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 16:45 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue | Nope didn't see it. Replied now tho. Sorry. I see you haven't answered the question put to you earlier tho. ;) |
It was a stupid question, as Toff has shown. Your 'proof' that Phil is being gagged by Ashton (more than ever before) is that we haven't seen the word "imminent" for ages. Jesus wept. Why should I lower myself, particularly when there are still 3, 4, 5 questions from myself, J2 and Dylers hanging around from yesterday that you've still failed to answer? Even Gav, one if the runners of this site, is downarrowing you. Take the hint, mate. |  |
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Lack of reporting Hirst on 18:20 - Jul 13 with 1263 views | FrimleyBlue |
Lack of reporting Hirst on 18:00 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile | It was a stupid question, as Toff has shown. Your 'proof' that Phil is being gagged by Ashton (more than ever before) is that we haven't seen the word "imminent" for ages. Jesus wept. Why should I lower myself, particularly when there are still 3, 4, 5 questions from myself, J2 and Dylers hanging around from yesterday that you've still failed to answer? Even Gav, one if the runners of this site, is downarrowing you. Take the hint, mate. |
Lol. Oh no someone down arrowed me. Again the answers are there. Not my fault you don't seem to be able to find them Have a good evening:) |  |
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