| Lack of reporting Hirst 18:56 - Jul 12 with 17091 views | bluesbrothers |
Isn’t it just a bit weird for local press and twtd not to report on Hirst at this point? Club must really have them by the balls these days… |  | | |  |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:15 - Jul 13 with 1520 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:00 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Sorry, I should've been more clear, there's no evidence that the club are being more ruthless with TWTD or anyone else. I thought that last bit was obvious and I didn't need to spell it out, but there we go.
You've come after me, not the other way round. And plenty of others have said similar to me who you haven't gone for. So how is it me arguing for the sake of arguing?!? You have literally come for me looking for an argument, and then cried foul when I've responded.
Balanced opinion?! You've questioned Phil's independence, integrity and have suggested the 'holding things back approach' is something new. None of that is remotely correct, and therefore not balanced.
I also don't see where I've shown any anger so I'll thank you to keep your mental health diagnosis on people you've never met to yourself. |
Flash. Do you really not see a difference in how signing news is shown on here/eadt?
Why do you think many posters joke about the imminent stuff.
Historically you had
Twtd understands town in for ....
Twtd understand deal for ... Is close
Twtd understands .... move is imminent
Twtd.. town confirm... signing.
What evidence are you looking for exactly?
Ashton known for it in past
Ashton bemoans transfer stories being shared publically
Local journos stop posting transfer stories. Soon after....
I'm not spending all day going back over this and you're taking to someone else anyway. But I had to have my input here because I find it amazing that you don't see a difference. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:18 - Jul 13 with 1497 views | NeedhamChris |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:00 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Sorry, I should've been more clear, there's no evidence that the club are being more ruthless with TWTD or anyone else. I thought that last bit was obvious and I didn't need to spell it out, but there we go.
You've come after me, not the other way round. And plenty of others have said similar to me who you haven't gone for. So how is it me arguing for the sake of arguing?!? You have literally come for me looking for an argument, and then cried foul when I've responded.
Balanced opinion?! You've questioned Phil's independence, integrity and have suggested the 'holding things back approach' is something new. None of that is remotely correct, and therefore not balanced.
I also don't see where I've shown any anger so I'll thank you to keep your mental health diagnosis on people you've never met to yourself. |
Can you show any example of where I've questioned Phil's integrity at all? That's complete nonsense.
I'll accept I'm wrong if Phil confirms as much - but it does feel to me like as the club becomes a more efficient media machine it is more conscious of things like this and therefore the 'holding things back' approach is new (or at least more regular and enhanced). Phil is that fair? If not I apologise.
I've said three times now - I 100% agree with Phil's approach here so how you think I'm questioning his integrity I have no idea. I'm just aware it might appear different to those of a different perspective. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:20 - Jul 13 with 1495 views | PhilTWTD |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:09 - Jul 13 by berkstractorboy |
as reported by those "ITK" on here and on SM had Hirst really signed on Tue? Or, given the car photos at Nuffield yesterday, was it a medical, signing and all the media stuff yesterday so there wasn't actually really any delay in announcing it was just normal process? |
Media was Tuesday, as was some of the medical, other stuff on that was done yesterday with the results this morning. Once that was done, stuff had to be signed, then the deal was done. |  | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:28 - Jul 13 with 1444 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:15 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Flash. Do you really not see a difference in how signing news is shown on here/eadt?
Why do you think many posters joke about the imminent stuff.
Historically you had
Twtd understands town in for ....
Twtd understand deal for ... Is close
Twtd understands .... move is imminent
Twtd.. town confirm... signing.
What evidence are you looking for exactly?
Ashton known for it in past
Ashton bemoans transfer stories being shared publically
Local journos stop posting transfer stories. Soon after....
I'm not spending all day going back over this and you're taking to someone else anyway. But I had to have my input here because I find it amazing that you don't see a difference. |
You won't even answer valid questions put to you on this matter so why would I bother engaging? |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:29 - Jul 13 with 1439 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:28 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You won't even answer valid questions put to you on this matter so why would I bother engaging? |
Because its a new day. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:30 - Jul 13 with 1436 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:18 - Jul 13 by NeedhamChris |
Can you show any example of where I've questioned Phil's integrity at all? That's complete nonsense.
I'll accept I'm wrong if Phil confirms as much - but it does feel to me like as the club becomes a more efficient media machine it is more conscious of things like this and therefore the 'holding things back' approach is new (or at least more regular and enhanced). Phil is that fair? If not I apologise.
I've said three times now - I 100% agree with Phil's approach here so how you think I'm questioning his integrity I have no idea. I'm just aware it might appear different to those of a different perspective. |
"It does question the independence of the fanzine" - that's questioning Phil's independence, and thus questioning his integrity.
Phil has said for years and years and years there are certain things he's known but has been asked not to report yet. I'm sure he'll confirm this. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:32 - Jul 13 with 1432 views | PhilTWTD |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 11:59 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD |
Not really, other than what I said elsewhere, it was a sensitive situation, club had concerns if news stories appeared above and beyond the social media stuff. It dragged on rather longer than expected and became a little bizarre with Hirst's car being photographed in so many places locally. |
Further to that, was quite a unique situation, would in normal circumstances have had a story out on Tuesday. | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:32 - Jul 13 with 1421 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:29 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Because its a new day. |
I like to debate ITFC issues. If someone chooses to run away from difficult questions, then that's not a debate, and is therefore pointless. Have a good day. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:33 - Jul 13 with 1423 views | hype313 |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:32 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD |
Further to that, was quite a unique situation, would in normal circumstances have had a story out on Tuesday. |
Don't know why you feel you have to justify your reporting Phil. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:34 - Jul 13 with 1416 views | NeedhamChris |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:30 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"It does question the independence of the fanzine" - that's questioning Phil's independence, and thus questioning his integrity.
Phil has said for years and years and years there are certain things he's known but has been asked not to report yet. I'm sure he'll confirm this. |
If you're seriously going to argue independence and integrity are one and the same then there's no hope for you. Following that logic has Andy Warren lost his integrity? Of course he hasn't.
I don't dispute that, it's the frequency of that happening and the more seriously it is taken and enforced that I'm suggesting may have increased. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:37 - Jul 13 with 1402 views | PhilTWTD |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:33 - Jul 13 by hype313 |
Don't know why you feel you have to justify your reporting Phil. |
Maybe not, but feel I ought to be as transparent as possible. Not unusual for clubs to ask their local media to keep schtum on a signing until it's over the line in case it goes awry. | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:40 - Jul 13 with 1373 views | J2BLUE |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:37 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD |
Maybe not, but feel I ought to be as transparent as possible. Not unusual for clubs to ask their local media to keep schtum on a signing until it's over the line in case it goes awry. |
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| But why would you want to bother playing ball on 13:42 - Jul 13 with 1358 views | Dyland |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:32 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD |
Further to that, was quite a unique situation, would in normal circumstances have had a story out on Tuesday. |
and having good access to the club? When instead you can please a handful of losers on here. You're a shill mate, a black flag troll. Sock puppet; gimp of Ashton. GameChanger's bitch.
BOOOOOOO! |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:43 - Jul 13 with 1344 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:32 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I like to debate ITFC issues. If someone chooses to run away from difficult questions, then that's not a debate, and is therefore pointless. Have a good day. |
You've found my question to you difficult to answer it seems.
Have a good day too :) | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:46 - Jul 13 with 1323 views | J2BLUE |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:43 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue |
You've found my question to you difficult to answer it seems.
Have a good day too :) |
This is a classic example of an idiot dragging someone down to their level and beating them with experience.
You have had an absolute mare over the last couple of days. You are a Town fan objecting to a Town website voluntarily not putting up content to help the club you support. In the days of clickbait and putting up any old crap which most sites seem to do that is extremely rare. We should be saying thanks for putting the club above driving traffic to the website via the numerous outlets who would report it and quote TWTD as the source. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:51 - Jul 13 with 1292 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:46 - Jul 13 by J2BLUE |
This is a classic example of an idiot dragging someone down to their level and beating them with experience.
You have had an absolute mare over the last couple of days. You are a Town fan objecting to a Town website voluntarily not putting up content to help the club you support. In the days of clickbait and putting up any old crap which most sites seem to do that is extremely rare. We should be saying thanks for putting the club above driving traffic to the website via the numerous outlets who would report it and quote TWTD as the source. |
Frimmers wants to know everything, and he wants to know it now. At all costs.
How much has the grass grown at PR today, out of curiosity? [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 13:52]
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:52 - Jul 13 with 1285 views | hype313 |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:37 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD |
Maybe not, but feel I ought to be as transparent as possible. Not unusual for clubs to ask their local media to keep schtum on a signing until it's over the line in case it goes awry. |
Everyone knows the situation regarding TWTD/Local Media and the club, it's been well documented ever since the takeover.
Why people get their knickers in a twist over things like this seems so churlish. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:53 - Jul 13 with 1262 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:34 - Jul 13 by NeedhamChris |
If you're seriously going to argue independence and integrity are one and the same then there's no hope for you. Following that logic has Andy Warren lost his integrity? Of course he hasn't.
I don't dispute that, it's the frequency of that happening and the more seriously it is taken and enforced that I'm suggesting may have increased. |
Andy Warren has changed jobs and is now working for the club. Of course there's no loss of integrity. Phil doesn't work for the club, so if you're saying he's not independent (particularly when the logo at the top of the site says "Independent Ipswich Town") then yes, of course that questions his integrity.
You're flailing about desperately trying to make something connect and failing every time. I'd give up if I were you. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:53 - Jul 13 with 1261 views | Dyland |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:46 - Jul 13 by J2BLUE |
This is a classic example of an idiot dragging someone down to their level and beating them with experience.
You have had an absolute mare over the last couple of days. You are a Town fan objecting to a Town website voluntarily not putting up content to help the club you support. In the days of clickbait and putting up any old crap which most sites seem to do that is extremely rare. We should be saying thanks for putting the club above driving traffic to the website via the numerous outlets who would report it and quote TWTD as the source. |
POTFD Eggers x
Bring back POTD and MOTD I say. Phil?
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:53 - Jul 13 with 1255 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:46 - Jul 13 by J2BLUE |
This is a classic example of an idiot dragging someone down to their level and beating them with experience.
You have had an absolute mare over the last couple of days. You are a Town fan objecting to a Town website voluntarily not putting up content to help the club you support. In the days of clickbait and putting up any old crap which most sites seem to do that is extremely rare. We should be saying thanks for putting the club above driving traffic to the website via the numerous outlets who would report it and quote TWTD as the source. |
I've a good couple of days thanks. Sun's back out today too which is nice.
Regarding twtd. I was just politely showing that flash was moaning about something he had refused to so himself, if you're going to moan. Don't then do the same thing yourself otherwise it looks rather silly.
Look it's clear this whole press release thing has supporters on either side of the fence. The main thing to celebrate is we have hirst. :) | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:55 - Jul 13 with 1229 views | J2BLUE |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:53 - Jul 13 by FrimleyBlue |
I've a good couple of days thanks. Sun's back out today too which is nice.
Regarding twtd. I was just politely showing that flash was moaning about something he had refused to so himself, if you're going to moan. Don't then do the same thing yourself otherwise it looks rather silly.
Look it's clear this whole press release thing has supporters on either side of the fence. The main thing to celebrate is we have hirst. :) |
So does the East Anglian derby, it doesn't make the ones in yellow any more right. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:59 - Jul 13 with 1181 views | Dyland |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:52 - Jul 13 by hype313 |
Everyone knows the situation regarding TWTD/Local Media and the club, it's been well documented ever since the takeover.
Why people get their knickers in a twist over things like this seems so churlish. |
It's always been pretty pro club since Phil took over. It's simply the tone and style of TWTD. Reliable, conservative with a small c, solid news about the club. It's never been one for weekly exclusives and incendiary leaks and what have you. And it's never been negatively partisan, e.g. in the way Hunt took the EADT re Magic (I will never forget that ffs). It is what it is. The biggest draw is the forum imo, it's really one of the best around, and that takes a lot of effort and skill to moderate well. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:00 - Jul 13 with 1157 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:55 - Jul 13 by J2BLUE |
So does the East Anglian derby, it doesn't make the ones in yellow any more right. |
Both sides are right depending on what side of that fence you are.
Apart from your example. Anything in yellow is never right. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:01 - Jul 13 with 1147 views | J2BLUE |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:59 - Jul 13 by Dyland |
It's always been pretty pro club since Phil took over. It's simply the tone and style of TWTD. Reliable, conservative with a small c, solid news about the club. It's never been one for weekly exclusives and incendiary leaks and what have you. And it's never been negatively partisan, e.g. in the way Hunt took the EADT re Magic (I will never forget that ffs). It is what it is. The biggest draw is the forum imo, it's really one of the best around, and that takes a lot of effort and skill to moderate well. |
Those are also the reasons why TWTD is the most quoted ITFC source.
I can't believe there are people not getting this. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 14:02 - Jul 13 with 1137 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:51 - Jul 13 by Kieran_Knows |
Frimmers wants to know everything, and he wants to know it now. At all costs.
How much has the grass grown at PR today, out of curiosity? [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 13:52]
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Looks quite good when you look at the hirst pic.
Also. My point yesterday wasn't about me wanting news. It was my personal belief about journo freedom. | |
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