| Lack of reporting Hirst 18:56 - Jul 12 with 17274 views | bluesbrothers |
Isn’t it just a bit weird for local press and twtd not to report on Hirst at this point? Club must really have them by the balls these days… |  | | |  |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:35 - Jul 12 with 2836 views | 765765 |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 20:44 - Jul 12 by SitfcB |
No way there’s NDA’s in place. Just a gentlemen’s agreement. |
Agreed, amazing what can be achieved through a bit of good relationship building, mutual respect between club and media, and being true to your word. I can imagine a "I'll give you a heads up as long as you only go to print when I say you can", and when you do that repeatedly it builds a strong understanding. | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:54 - Jul 12 with 2779 views | Hipsterectomy |
I’ve lost a lot of respect for twtd if they are the pretending to be ignoring any news that has leaked due to club commitments or a fear of the club being annoyed at them
I get a secret signing a few hours away from being confirmed but this is a 3 or 4 day drama where it’s now obvious he’s here |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 00:07 - Jul 13 with 2687 views | BasingstokeBlue |
All the first team kit is in Austria, so nothing for him to hold up for the "reveal" photo, yet. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 00:22 - Jul 13 with 2669 views | berkstractorboy |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 00:07 - Jul 13 by BasingstokeBlue |
All the first team kit is in Austria, so nothing for him to hold up for the "reveal" photo, yet. |
Think Planet Blue might have some kits .... (and I don't think all the league badges etc are really necessary for a player reveal photo are they ... but the club shop cold put them on if needed) | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 05:27 - Jul 13 with 2590 views | franz_tyson |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:35 - Jul 12 by 765765 |
Agreed, amazing what can be achieved through a bit of good relationship building, mutual respect between club and media, and being true to your word. I can imagine a "I'll give you a heads up as long as you only go to print when I say you can", and when you do that repeatedly it builds a strong understanding. |
Maybe, but this is an example which shows it needs a bit of tweaking. It's got to the stage where now some are taking liberties in a media vacuum.
The silence is also deafening. We know if this isn't true - then Ham & Co. would say that theres no truth in it.
Wouldn't want the press to jeopardise anything, but if it's got to the stage where the club are telling the journalists what to do then I'm not sure how healthy that is. | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 07:59 - Jul 13 with 2494 views | Vic |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 19:05 - Jul 12 by BlueBadger |
Some of you lot would have never coped a couple of decades back when you could go literally weeks over the summer with NO ITFC news, transfer or whatever at all. |
Makes you pine for those days, the days before the internet, twitter, etc, etc. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 08:58 - Jul 13 with 2411 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:54 - Jul 12 by Hipsterectomy |
I’ve lost a lot of respect for twtd if they are the pretending to be ignoring any news that has leaked due to club commitments or a fear of the club being annoyed at them
I get a secret signing a few hours away from being confirmed but this is a 3 or 4 day drama where it’s now obvious he’s here |
You're free to leave this site if you don't like it. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 09:15 - Jul 13 with 2358 views | NeedhamChris |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 08:58 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You're free to leave this site if you don't like it. |
I think there's a middle ground between having to like it and needing to leave the sight.
As the club gets more professionally run (after all under Evans an absolute mess), they're going to be more ruthless and that will include their engagement with TWTD and others. I'm okay with that
At the same time - I can understand why others don't like it. It does question the independence of the fanzine (to a degree) if it can't report through these ongoing transfer dramas like it used to. Had this always been the approach I'd say nothing to see here but it has changed. Nowadays Phil rules out those where we are not interested or where the club wants it to be seen as such (Taylor) but say nothing on anything with substance until signed off.
I'm not a fan of the long drawn out transfer saga so it suits me fine - but can understand why a change of approach isn't universally loved | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 09:22 - Jul 13 with 2319 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 09:15 - Jul 13 by NeedhamChris |
I think there's a middle ground between having to like it and needing to leave the sight.
As the club gets more professionally run (after all under Evans an absolute mess), they're going to be more ruthless and that will include their engagement with TWTD and others. I'm okay with that
At the same time - I can understand why others don't like it. It does question the independence of the fanzine (to a degree) if it can't report through these ongoing transfer dramas like it used to. Had this always been the approach I'd say nothing to see here but it has changed. Nowadays Phil rules out those where we are not interested or where the club wants it to be seen as such (Taylor) but say nothing on anything with substance until signed off.
I'm not a fan of the long drawn out transfer saga so it suits me fine - but can understand why a change of approach isn't universally loved |
There's no evidence that they're going to be more ruthless with TWTD.
It has always been the approach - or has been for several years and before Gamechanger - for the club to ask the media to hold back.
There's no questioning Phil's independence either. He (and the EADT) are merely holding back on a transfer until it's completed. That's all.
You're spouting nonsense again. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 10:04 - Jul 13 with 2219 views | NeedhamChris |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 09:22 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There's no evidence that they're going to be more ruthless with TWTD.
It has always been the approach - or has been for several years and before Gamechanger - for the club to ask the media to hold back.
There's no questioning Phil's independence either. He (and the EADT) are merely holding back on a transfer until it's completed. That's all.
You're spouting nonsense again. |
Not TWTD in isolation, everyone in the media close to the club. If you can't accept there's a difference between the approach to reporting these rumours pre-TWTD being banned from press conferences and post, then I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
I agree with this approach, if there's even a tiny risk of a deal collapsing then I'd much rather they keep it under wraps rather than to keep us excited. So I'm not criticising (just appreciate others might)
I don't understand why you seem allergic to a balanced opinion? Would recommend some form of anger management class for you if you can't have a polite debate. | |
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| Club have them by the balls? on 10:26 - Jul 13 with 2126 views | Dyland |
It’s a pretty simple quid pro quo, and no one is forcing anyone to do or not do anything. News has always worked this way, literally since the dawn of civilisation. Plenty of gutter pap press outlets out there if you want gossip and leaked info. Or even better, go out for a few hours or, god forbid, a few days and have a life (not aimed at OP).
This criticism of TWTD and the club is pathetic. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 10:28 - Jul 13 with 2114 views | xrayspecs |
About now | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 10:31 - Jul 13 with 2096 views | NeedhamChris |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 10:28 - Jul 13 by xrayspecs |
About now |
Indeed. We are not even going to need the "Town Closing in on xxxxxx" stage | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 10:32 - Jul 13 with 2091 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:26 - Jul 12 by 765765 |
No-one is holding back, there is a huge amount of complexity in transfer deals, personally I think Ashton and his team do a tremendous job of it all. Expecting everything to line up perfectly is to show you think it's all a bit like Football Manager on the PC |
Spot on. It usually takes several days to get from agreement to signature. A lot of stuff needs to be done that is outside the public eye. | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 11:49 - Jul 13 with 2030 views | SitfcB |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:54 - Jul 12 by Hipsterectomy |
I’ve lost a lot of respect for twtd if they are the pretending to be ignoring any news that has leaked due to club commitments or a fear of the club being annoyed at them
I get a secret signing a few hours away from being confirmed but this is a 3 or 4 day drama where it’s now obvious he’s here |
Any comment from PhilTWTD on this? |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 11:53 - Jul 13 with 2024 views | Ryorry |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:54 - Jul 12 by Hipsterectomy |
I’ve lost a lot of respect for twtd if they are the pretending to be ignoring any news that has leaked due to club commitments or a fear of the club being annoyed at them
I get a secret signing a few hours away from being confirmed but this is a 3 or 4 day drama where it’s now obvious he’s here |
And I've lost a lot of respect for you if you're publicly doubting Phil & Gav's integrity.
They've been rock solid for 25 years+ |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 11:59 - Jul 13 with 2015 views | PhilTWTD |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 11:49 - Jul 13 by SitfcB |
Any comment from PhilTWTD on this? |
Not really, other than what I said elsewhere, it was a sensitive situation, club had concerns if news stories appeared above and beyond the social media stuff. It dragged on rather longer than expected and became a little bizarre with Hirst's car being photographed in so many places locally. |  | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:08 - Jul 13 with 1970 views | J2BLUE |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 22:54 - Jul 12 by Hipsterectomy |
I’ve lost a lot of respect for twtd if they are the pretending to be ignoring any news that has leaked due to club commitments or a fear of the club being annoyed at them
I get a secret signing a few hours away from being confirmed but this is a 3 or 4 day drama where it’s now obvious he’s here |
We all support the same club. Just what is the problem? You said yourself it was obvious he was here (from within the ITFC bubble). You didn't need it confirmed.
If the club want to withhold sensitive info on something positive like this then they should be allowed to.
Get a grip. |  |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:09 - Jul 13 with 1965 views | berkstractorboy |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 11:59 - Jul 13 by PhilTWTD |
Not really, other than what I said elsewhere, it was a sensitive situation, club had concerns if news stories appeared above and beyond the social media stuff. It dragged on rather longer than expected and became a little bizarre with Hirst's car being photographed in so many places locally. |
as reported by those "ITK" on here and on SM had Hirst really signed on Tue? Or, given the car photos at Nuffield yesterday, was it a medical, signing and all the media stuff yesterday so there wasn't actually really any delay in announcing it was just normal process? | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:21 - Jul 13 with 1921 views | SitfcB |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:09 - Jul 13 by berkstractorboy |
as reported by those "ITK" on here and on SM had Hirst really signed on Tue? Or, given the car photos at Nuffield yesterday, was it a medical, signing and all the media stuff yesterday so there wasn't actually really any delay in announcing it was just normal process? |
I think the timeline of events was media stuff, then medical. Quite the norm. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:22 - Jul 13 with 1910 views | Vegtablue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:09 - Jul 13 by berkstractorboy |
as reported by those "ITK" on here and on SM had Hirst really signed on Tue? Or, given the car photos at Nuffield yesterday, was it a medical, signing and all the media stuff yesterday so there wasn't actually really any delay in announcing it was just normal process? |
Feels like there was a pronounced delay and bluesbrothers is an ITK, so him highlighting it lends credence. And Phil lol. 'Weird' has negative connotations. It is certainly different to the reporting of news in other spheres and probably at other football clubs. However, J2 makes the point nicely. I trust Phil would blow the doors off if a story emerges that he believes is in our genuine interest. | | | |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:30 - Jul 13 with 1880 views | berkstractorboy |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:21 - Jul 13 by SitfcB |
I think the timeline of events was media stuff, then medical. Quite the norm. |
Thanks just found Phil's update on another thread that it was medical results to get the insurance sorted but everything else was agreed. All helps to give credence to those really ITK and those that just claim. Everything agreed and all signed are different and people prematurely reporting the latter! [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 12:39]
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:34 - Jul 13 with 1857 views | berkstractorboy |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 12:22 - Jul 13 by Vegtablue |
Feels like there was a pronounced delay and bluesbrothers is an ITK, so him highlighting it lends credence. And Phil lol. 'Weird' has negative connotations. It is certainly different to the reporting of news in other spheres and probably at other football clubs. However, J2 makes the point nicely. I trust Phil would blow the doors off if a story emerges that he believes is in our genuine interest. |
To me the silence from Phil and Stu Watson was the most telling factor it was very close as you say where there is little or no truth they tend to comment.
The fact Watson and Phil have talked of our interest in Trusty means its clearly a long way off and the club probably know of other interest in him so any story won't actually alter the outcome of that chase. [Post edited 13 Jul 2023 12:40]
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:00 - Jul 13 with 1794 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 10:04 - Jul 13 by NeedhamChris |
Not TWTD in isolation, everyone in the media close to the club. If you can't accept there's a difference between the approach to reporting these rumours pre-TWTD being banned from press conferences and post, then I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
I agree with this approach, if there's even a tiny risk of a deal collapsing then I'd much rather they keep it under wraps rather than to keep us excited. So I'm not criticising (just appreciate others might)
I don't understand why you seem allergic to a balanced opinion? Would recommend some form of anger management class for you if you can't have a polite debate. |
Sorry, I should've been more clear, there's no evidence that the club are being more ruthless with TWTD or anyone else. I thought that last bit was obvious and I didn't need to spell it out, but there we go.
You've come after me, not the other way round. And plenty of others have said similar to me who you haven't gone for. So how is it me arguing for the sake of arguing?!? You have literally come for me looking for an argument, and then cried foul when I've responded.
Balanced opinion?! You've questioned Phil's independence, integrity and have suggested the 'holding things back approach' is something new. None of that is remotely correct, and therefore not balanced.
I also don't see where I've shown any anger so I'll thank you to keep your mental health diagnosis on people you've never met to yourself. | |
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| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:15 - Jul 13 with 1529 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Lack of reporting Hirst on 13:00 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Sorry, I should've been more clear, there's no evidence that the club are being more ruthless with TWTD or anyone else. I thought that last bit was obvious and I didn't need to spell it out, but there we go.
You've come after me, not the other way round. And plenty of others have said similar to me who you haven't gone for. So how is it me arguing for the sake of arguing?!? You have literally come for me looking for an argument, and then cried foul when I've responded.
Balanced opinion?! You've questioned Phil's independence, integrity and have suggested the 'holding things back approach' is something new. None of that is remotely correct, and therefore not balanced.
I also don't see where I've shown any anger so I'll thank you to keep your mental health diagnosis on people you've never met to yourself. |
Flash. Do you really not see a difference in how signing news is shown on here/eadt?
Why do you think many posters joke about the imminent stuff.
Historically you had
Twtd understands town in for ....
Twtd understand deal for ... Is close
Twtd understands .... move is imminent
Twtd.. town confirm... signing.
What evidence are you looking for exactly?
Ashton known for it in past
Ashton bemoans transfer stories being shared publically
Local journos stop posting transfer stories. Soon after....
I'm not spending all day going back over this and you're taking to someone else anyway. But I had to have my input here because I find it amazing that you don't see a difference. |  |
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