| Post Truth Trumpland 23:01 - Aug 1 with 5078 views | unstableblue |
He had republican voting officials telling him him there was no voting fraud, and he was compelling them to take another look, he refused to accept the election, and then led a concerted campaign of misinformation based on a lie of vote rigging, that led to the storming of the US Capitol.
Yet he continues to portray himself as righteous and persecuted by the ‘loony lefty crazies’ (which is a fabrication in its own right)
And insanely millions upon millions believe him and are backing in great polling numbers.
He may face an opponent too old to function.
This is a post truth world and I find it staggering. |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:15 - Aug 2 with 1222 views | MillsTash |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 23:09 - Aug 1 by jacobnikons |
Misinformation? really? what like the lies the msm and the democrats have thrown at him for the last 7 years. I bet you thought the election was rigged when Bush beat Gore, funny how the left forget that. You should be more worried that in a so called western country that the government is trying to imprison its political opponents when the 'president' himself is engaged in corruption, bribery and clearly has dementia, but hey carry on with your Trump derangement syndrome. |
Paz returns. |  | | |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:17 - Aug 2 with 1216 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 08:54 - Aug 2 by Herbivore |
I was only going to give this a 2/10 as it was a bit too route one, but you seem to have snagged yourself a few bites here, so well played. |
I think it's genuine, judging by his/her timeline. But it's so hard to tell these days. [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 9:18]
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:29 - Aug 2 with 1176 views | Guthrum |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:13 - Aug 2 by Herbivore |
I remember reading something by someone who had done a deep dive into Trump's business dealings and finances, and they basically concluded that he'd be considerably wealthier now if he'd just put the wealth he inherited from his dad into a regular bank account. He's been a pretty epic failure as a businessman but because he came from money he's been able to sustain this impression of being highly successful. |
Plus he does a not uncommon thing in having his businesses borrow enormous sums of money, then paying himself a large slice of it.
Wealth is generally gauged by conspicuous spending, not debt encumbrance. Which is why all these high-living, always-on-holiday celebrities keep going bankrupt. |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:35 - Aug 2 with 1165 views | Herbivore |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:29 - Aug 2 by Guthrum |
Plus he does a not uncommon thing in having his businesses borrow enormous sums of money, then paying himself a large slice of it.
Wealth is generally gauged by conspicuous spending, not debt encumbrance. Which is why all these high-living, always-on-holiday celebrities keep going bankrupt. |
Yes, that's a very good point. Effectively he can borrow incredible sums then declare the business that has undertaken the borrowing bankrupt without it affecting the perception of his personal wealth. Quite how that's allowed to happen is beyond me. |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:36 - Aug 2 with 1155 views | blueasfook |
It's remarkable. He's facing something like 70 charges now in 3 different cases, YET he still could end up being voted president in 2024. Gotta love the U S of A! |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:41 - Aug 2 with 1136 views | unstableblue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 08:54 - Aug 2 by Herbivore |
I was only going to give this a 2/10 as it was a bit too route one, but you seem to have snagged yourself a few bites here, so well played. |
Alas Herbivore, and worryingly, it’s not a parody reply
Or were you parodying his reply with your reply?! | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:43 - Aug 2 with 1126 views | Oldsmoker |
I have a conspiracy theory.
Trump will be found guilty on all charges.
He won't go to jail.
He will win the Presidency because the Republican run states will declare him the winner and give him the electoral college votes regardless of the actual vote in their state.
He will send everyone to jail, who was involved in indicting him, on Trumped up charges.
See what I did there.
PS The UK has Prisons and the US has Jails. |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:46 - Aug 2 with 1119 views | unstableblue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:36 - Aug 2 by blueasfook |
It's remarkable. He's facing something like 70 charges now in 3 different cases, YET he still could end up being voted president in 2024. Gotta love the U S of A! |
U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A
What I find also quite remarkable that even though some of the GOP like Pence have come out and basically supported the indictments and the theme that no president is above the law
Some of Trumps candidacy rivals are coming out with rhetoric like “drain the swamp” and “weaponising the judiciary” purely because they see it as a vote winner
It really is quite remarkable - the election fraud is the BIG LIE, because an infantile deeply flawed and failed businessman and celebrity didn’t like a vote result!
I think we should be pleased in UK PLC that effectively Boris’ lying was called out, the people in the main backed parliament, and it feels a post truth world is not an immediate future. No matter what GB News and ‘the coast guy’ continue to spout! | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:47 - Aug 2 with 1115 views | unstableblue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:43 - Aug 2 by Oldsmoker |
I have a conspiracy theory.
Trump will be found guilty on all charges.
He won't go to jail.
He will win the Presidency because the Republican run states will declare him the winner and give him the electoral college votes regardless of the actual vote in their state.
He will send everyone to jail, who was involved in indicting him, on Trumped up charges.
See what I did there.
PS The UK has Prisons and the US has Jails. |
We have courgettes they have zucchini | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:48 - Aug 2 with 1114 views | Oldsmoker |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:47 - Aug 2 by unstableblue |
We have courgettes they have zucchini |
They have Biden and we have Sunak.
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:55 - Aug 2 with 1093 views | blueasfook |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:46 - Aug 2 by unstableblue |
U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A
What I find also quite remarkable that even though some of the GOP like Pence have come out and basically supported the indictments and the theme that no president is above the law
Some of Trumps candidacy rivals are coming out with rhetoric like “drain the swamp” and “weaponising the judiciary” purely because they see it as a vote winner
It really is quite remarkable - the election fraud is the BIG LIE, because an infantile deeply flawed and failed businessman and celebrity didn’t like a vote result!
I think we should be pleased in UK PLC that effectively Boris’ lying was called out, the people in the main backed parliament, and it feels a post truth world is not an immediate future. No matter what GB News and ‘the coast guy’ continue to spout! |
Its unbelievable that there are enough morons in America to still support him and give him a realistic chance of running for president agan!
I think Biden is weak and hasn't really excelled in his presidency to be certain he would win against Trump a second time. Oddly, these charges seem to be giving strength to his campaign and garnering him more support. Can only hope he is found guilty and imprisoned on something at least before next november. | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:10 - Aug 2 with 1071 views | iamatractorboy |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:55 - Aug 2 by blueasfook |
Its unbelievable that there are enough morons in America to still support him and give him a realistic chance of running for president agan!
I think Biden is weak and hasn't really excelled in his presidency to be certain he would win against Trump a second time. Oddly, these charges seem to be giving strength to his campaign and garnering him more support. Can only hope he is found guilty and imprisoned on something at least before next november. |
I can't see him going to actual jail, but a house arrest situation? Plausible. Although doing that at some palatial residence like Mar a Lago would be a bit of a joke. I suppose banning him from playing golf, watching TV and eating fast food while there would be pretty hilarious though. |  | | |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:13 - Aug 2 with 1066 views | Guthrum |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:35 - Aug 2 by Herbivore |
Yes, that's a very good point. Effectively he can borrow incredible sums then declare the business that has undertaken the borrowing bankrupt without it affecting the perception of his personal wealth. Quite how that's allowed to happen is beyond me. |
How financial institutions will keep lending to them is what surprises me. Probably because the money* is being managed by people who take their fees whatever.
* or endlessly repackaged debt | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:21 - Aug 2 with 1056 views | Guthrum |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:14 - Aug 2 by Oldsmoker |
For me it's the creepy way he talks about his daughter Ivanka.
I know that fathers are proud of their daughters but Ivanka is married and has children.
He says she's a nice piece of **** to his advisors and gets them to agree.
These advisors are 50+ and probably married, yet Trump encourages them to lust after his daughter.
He says he'd 'date' her if she wasn't his daughter.
None of that is American bible-belt apple pie wholesome is it? |
American (and, increasingly British) Evangelicals are so obsessed with abortion nowadays* that anyone who gives even lip-service to banning it gets their vote.
* Seemingly more so than spiritual salvation, living good lives or helping the poor. Which to me are more central to the messages of both Jesus and Paul. | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:28 - Aug 2 with 1030 views | BlueBadger |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:04 - Aug 2 by Oldsmoker |
If that was Trump it would have been in Capital letters. |
And in green crayon. |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 11:32 - Aug 2 with 966 views | MattinLondon |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:36 - Aug 2 by blueasfook |
It's remarkable. He's facing something like 70 charges now in 3 different cases, YET he still could end up being voted president in 2024. Gotta love the U S of A! |
So if he’s voted in as president of the USA - could he pardon himself? [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 11:37]
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 12:06 - Aug 2 with 924 views | Keno |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 11:32 - Aug 2 by MattinLondon |
So if he’s voted in as president of the USA - could he pardon himself? [Post edited 2 Aug 2023 11:37]
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I was discussing this other day with someone
I dint think he can pardon himself but if he resigns, say on health grounds, and the Vice President take over the VP could pardon him |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 14:03 - Aug 2 with 873 views | GeoffSentence |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:36 - Aug 2 by blueasfook |
It's remarkable. He's facing something like 70 charges now in 3 different cases, YET he still could end up being voted president in 2024. Gotta love the U S of A! |
And if he is, he can pardon himself.
World gorn mad. |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:07 - Aug 3 with 753 views | DJR |
Interesting to note that Trump's second impeachment (which didn't succeed because the Republicans didn't vote for it) charged him with "incitement of insurrection", and that the latest indictment charges him with something different.
Indeed as the Guardian puts it.
"The one argument that is absent here, significantly perhaps, is any suggestion that Trump personally orchestrated the uprising on January 6. It’s a striking omission, given some of the evidence that was heard by the House committee, including the sensational claim that Trump had tried to grab the wheel of his security vehicle and drive towards the Capitol building as the uprising was under way."
I always thought the insurrection case was not particularly strong from a legal point of view, and its absence from the indictment perhaps shores up the argument that the Republicans were right to object to the impeachment because (as with most impeachments eg. Clinton's) they tend to be politically motivated.
As it is, I think pursuing Trump only plays into his hands. [Post edited 3 Aug 2023 9:14]
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:52 - Aug 3 with 709 views | Whos_blue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:28 - Aug 2 by BlueBadger |
And in green crayon. |
Or a Sharpie! |  |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:55 - Aug 3 with 705 views | Whos_blue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 09:47 - Aug 2 by unstableblue |
We have courgettes they have zucchini |
They have rutabaga.
We have swede. | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:00 - Aug 3 with 692 views | Whos_blue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 00:00 - Aug 2 by BLUEGOLD |
Possibly the stupidest post ever seen on this site and that’s saying something. |
And yet 3 of our brethren seemingly support it.
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:07 - Aug 3 with 675 views | Oldsmoker |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 23:09 - Aug 1 by jacobnikons |
Misinformation? really? what like the lies the msm and the democrats have thrown at him for the last 7 years. I bet you thought the election was rigged when Bush beat Gore, funny how the left forget that. You should be more worried that in a so called western country that the government is trying to imprison its political opponents when the 'president' himself is engaged in corruption, bribery and clearly has dementia, but hey carry on with your Trump derangement syndrome. |
The Republicans have called Biden incompetent, senile and now you say he "clearly has dementia".
Are you suggesting that this doddery, senile old fool stole the 2020 election by rigging votes in 7 states?
I would say Biden is a mastermind to have pulled that off, leaving no trace whatsoever, and able to ensure that thousands and thousands of people who were involved in his election steal kept their mouths shut.
Remember, the GOP launched 60 law suits claiming election fraud and the judges threw them all out for lack of evidence.
The only misinformation here is your post. | |
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| Post Truth Trumpland on 10:26 - Aug 3 with 630 views | iamatractorboy |
What I find most baffling is that a convicted felon cannot (as I understand it) vote, yet can stand for office! | | | |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 11:01 - Aug 3 with 593 views | leitrimblue |
| Post Truth Trumpland on 23:09 - Aug 1 by jacobnikons |
Misinformation? really? what like the lies the msm and the democrats have thrown at him for the last 7 years. I bet you thought the election was rigged when Bush beat Gore, funny how the left forget that. You should be more worried that in a so called western country that the government is trying to imprison its political opponents when the 'president' himself is engaged in corruption, bribery and clearly has dementia, but hey carry on with your Trump derangement syndrome. |
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Thanking you in advance for your assistance Prince Leitrim |  | | |
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