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Everything was going well until this sentence. ' I don't really have a side in this conflict as it's far too deep, although I can't help think that by and large when Israel kills kids it's usually by accident rather than self gratification which is what Hamas done. ".
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James O'Brien talking sense on 19:58 - Oct 17 with 2448 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 09:40 - Oct 17 by Blueschev
I can't stand James O'Brien, he irritates the life out of me, but I listened to the clip live yesterday and can't really argue with it.
Not sure what is irritating about JOB. For me he generally calls out wrong doings and the total brainwashing dished out by the right wing media. Haven't listened to much about the middle East issues because not sure its something I can ever fully understand.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 23:44 - Oct 17 with 2389 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 18:45 - Oct 17 by Eireannach_gorm
Everything was going well until this sentence. ' I don't really have a side in this conflict as it's far too deep, although I can't help think that by and large when Israel kills kids it's usually by accident rather than self gratification which is what Hamas done. ".
I’m not saying that the isrealies are angels, I have never meant to imply that, but I’m talking in general.
Anyone can say anything about anything or anyone but it’s not hard these days to find an odd clip or two bolster any argument.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
James O'Brien talking sense on 22:26 - Oct 16 by Lord_Lucan
I remain slightly depressed with posts that are posted to look good in intention but are really a backdoor method of saying "I'm right, look at me"
And as for James O'Brien, he's a privately educated shock jock with a pretentious ready break glow.
I find the whole thing very depressing to be honest. I found the butchering (yes, it wasn't just straight forward killing at all was it) of Jews completely off the scale and I find the whatabouterry and the antisemitism mind boggling. I also find the land grabbing by Israel off the Palestinians completely barbaric and it beggars belief we don't even raise a bloody eyebrow half the time.
After the mass murders we have seen hundreds of thousands of so called Palestinians and their supporters rejoicing throughout Europe and kicking the sh1t out of anyone who dare question them. We have also seen the police lose control. God knows what went on that we will never know about because I tell you now, there is a news blackout.
Gaza has now been cut off with power and water by the complete piece of sh1t Benjamin Netanyahu and no one seems to have given any thought to normal people in Gaza, it's madness. We are now about to see a full ground onslaught from Israel which will undoubtably make things worse in the short term and possibly Armageddon in the long term.
95% of the people on both sides just want to live but they are controlled by 5% of lunatics. I don't really have a side in this conflict as it's far too deep, although I can't help think that by and large when Israel kills kids it's usually by accident rather than self gratification which is what Hamas done.
I feel for the Palestinians but last week was a fecking sh1t show.
..........and I still can't believe there are people on here over numerous threads trying to make hay over this and call old adversaries out. This mornings opener by XYZ that got pulled was a disgrace.
Anyhoo, we started on about Idiot James O Brien. I listen to that wet blanket most days and I trust that gimp as far as I can throw him..........
Probably better listening to a proper heavyweight.
Apologies for any grammatical or speeling mistakes but written in a hurry whilst a bit p1ssed off.
JOB is an arrogant pr1ck who makes a living of getting his producers to find people who can barely string a sentence together to come on his show so he can belittle them. All to the cheers of his admirers, so he can “expose” and lump together anyone who might disagree with him.
The level of antisemitism in the West is absolutely disgusting and blatantly obvious at this point. Some of it is clearly the rent a mob crowd trying to impress their friends on campus. However, some is quite worryingly very real. The paraglider imagery we’ve seen is maybe the clearest example of the mask slipping I’ve seen over the last few weeks.
The BBC wouldn’t even use the word terrorist for Hamas in initial reporting ffs.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 04:41 - Oct 18 with 2321 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 18:45 - Oct 17 by Eireannach_gorm
Everything was going well until this sentence. ' I don't really have a side in this conflict as it's far too deep, although I can't help think that by and large when Israel kills kids it's usually by accident rather than self gratification which is what Hamas done. ".
Israel does roof knocking in civilian areas and does its best to warn citizens. Hamas literally uses its own civilians as human shields and has for a long time.
Israel does roof knocking in civilian areas and does its best to warn citizens. Hamas literally uses its own civilians as human shields and has for a long time.
But the post by Eirenach_Gorm is about settlers, not Israeli military forces. However the settlers have been given licence by Israeli policies and law.
JOB is an arrogant pr1ck who makes a living of getting his producers to find people who can barely string a sentence together to come on his show so he can belittle them. All to the cheers of his admirers, so he can “expose” and lump together anyone who might disagree with him.
The level of antisemitism in the West is absolutely disgusting and blatantly obvious at this point. Some of it is clearly the rent a mob crowd trying to impress their friends on campus. However, some is quite worryingly very real. The paraglider imagery we’ve seen is maybe the clearest example of the mask slipping I’ve seen over the last few weeks.
The BBC wouldn’t even use the word terrorist for Hamas in initial reporting ffs.
“The BBC wouldn’t even use the word terrorist for Hamas in initial reporting ffs.”
That’s just daft given they are by definition a prescribed terrorist group.
And the massacre of kids at a music festival was what..? Would also add Hamas are quite happy to sacrifice Palestinian civilians too, hiding amongst them during conflict, and indeed recklessly goading the Israelis to attack Gaza by kidnapping Israeli (and foreign) civilians.
You can take an objective view of the conflict, but to infer Hamas may or may not be terrorists is a tad ridiculous.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 08:32 - Oct 18 with 2250 views
Israel does roof knocking in civilian areas and does its best to warn citizens. Hamas literally uses its own civilians as human shields and has for a long time.
Where do you get this from?
Israel has indiscimrinately bombarded over recent days.
"roof knocking" indeed.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 08:33 - Oct 18 with 2249 views
“The BBC wouldn’t even use the word terrorist for Hamas in initial reporting ffs.”
That’s just daft given they are by definition a prescribed terrorist group.
And the massacre of kids at a music festival was what..? Would also add Hamas are quite happy to sacrifice Palestinian civilians too, hiding amongst them during conflict, and indeed recklessly goading the Israelis to attack Gaza by kidnapping Israeli (and foreign) civilians.
You can take an objective view of the conflict, but to infer Hamas may or may not be terrorists is a tad ridiculous.
They explained in considerable detail why that was.
Are we going to call Israel's current actions "terrorist"? Or does it not apply because they are a state?
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James O'Brien talking sense on 08:40 - Oct 18 with 2237 views
JOB is an arrogant pr1ck who makes a living of getting his producers to find people who can barely string a sentence together to come on his show so he can belittle them. All to the cheers of his admirers, so he can “expose” and lump together anyone who might disagree with him.
The level of antisemitism in the West is absolutely disgusting and blatantly obvious at this point. Some of it is clearly the rent a mob crowd trying to impress their friends on campus. However, some is quite worryingly very real. The paraglider imagery we’ve seen is maybe the clearest example of the mask slipping I’ve seen over the last few weeks.
The BBC wouldn’t even use the word terrorist for Hamas in initial reporting ffs.
I am of the left but share your sentiments about JOB who is a know-all's know-all.
He professes to be a liberal, but his attitude to anyone he disagrees with is about as illiberal as you can get.
And it is certainly a case of him preaching to the converted.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 08:48 - Oct 18 with 2214 views
“The BBC wouldn’t even use the word terrorist for Hamas in initial reporting ffs.”
That’s just daft given they are by definition a prescribed terrorist group.
And the massacre of kids at a music festival was what..? Would also add Hamas are quite happy to sacrifice Palestinian civilians too, hiding amongst them during conflict, and indeed recklessly goading the Israelis to attack Gaza by kidnapping Israeli (and foreign) civilians.
You can take an objective view of the conflict, but to infer Hamas may or may not be terrorists is a tad ridiculous.
The massacre was a pogrom, pure and simple, although I have only heard people in Israel and Sunak (to his credit) use this term.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 09:04 - Oct 18 with 2184 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 19:58 - Oct 17 by peterleeblue
Not sure what is irritating about JOB. For me he generally calls out wrong doings and the total brainwashing dished out by the right wing media. Haven't listened to much about the middle East issues because not sure its something I can ever fully understand.
I just find him really patronising and quite hypocritical. I also don't believe that talking to people like they're complete idiots is a productive way in which to change people's minds for the better.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 09:44 - Oct 18 with 2137 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 08:32 - Oct 18 by redrickstuhaart
Where do you get this from?
Israel has indiscimrinately bombarded over recent days.
"roof knocking" indeed.
I find the implication in the first place that you can't be too heavy on the blame with Israel because they occasionally pre-warn people before they bomb the hell out of them bizarre and to be honest pretty disgusting. Not to mention forcibly mass removing and relocating people from their homes is in breach of the Geneva Convention anyway.
There have been plenty of reports from non-biased sources about Israel air striking places they'd supposedly determined safe for Gazans to go to, plus things like Human Rights Watch confirming reports of Israel using white phosphorus on civilian areas which again violates international humanitarian law.
There has been no concern for civilian life from any party in all of this, and 'this' stretches back long before Hamas' atrocities last week. The whole thing makes me feel a bit sick to be honest as it's hard to see how the situation doesn't get much much worse and a lot of leading politicians in the West have been at best appearing ambivalent about the strength of Israel's response or refusing to condemn fairly obvious human rights abuses.
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
James O'Brien talking sense on 09:04 - Oct 18 by Blueschev
I just find him really patronising and quite hypocritical. I also don't believe that talking to people like they're complete idiots is a productive way in which to change people's minds for the better.
Thats his shtick. Quite cruel for the person calling in, and unlikely to change their views. But possibly it challenges those thst listen to reconsider their positions, gives s different narrative avenue for peoples views
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James O'Brien talking sense on 09:56 - Oct 18 with 2083 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 09:51 - Oct 18 by Buhrer
Thats his shtick. Quite cruel for the person calling in, and unlikely to change their views. But possibly it challenges those thst listen to reconsider their positions, gives s different narrative avenue for peoples views
I'd expect those listening with opposing views think "who's this arrogant pr!ck?!"
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James O'Brien talking sense on 10:07 - Oct 18 with 2038 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 09:56 - Oct 18 by Blueschev
I'd expect those listening with opposing views think "who's this arrogant pr!ck?!"
He is patronising. But then he was spot on about the whole farcical Brexit episode, pretty much every single part of it from the self-interested liars who were driving it through to the grifting press and columnists supporting them.
I've no idea what he's up to now though, as I tuned out of social media (except here!) earlier in the year and it's the best thing I've done in ages.
If this sort of shock jock stuff annoys people, I strongly recommend ignoring it and ignoring people on social media complaining about it. It's not important.
James O'Brien talking sense on 10:07 - Oct 18 by Swansea_Blue
He is patronising. But then he was spot on about the whole farcical Brexit episode, pretty much every single part of it from the self-interested liars who were driving it through to the grifting press and columnists supporting them.
I've no idea what he's up to now though, as I tuned out of social media (except here!) earlier in the year and it's the best thing I've done in ages.
If this sort of shock jock stuff annoys people, I strongly recommend ignoring it and ignoring people on social media complaining about it. It's not important.
I don't disagree with much of what he says, more that I find his execution that of the classic "arrogant entitled remoaner" caricature banded about by the right. If anything I'd say that his know all persona contributed to people doubling down on their position rather than convincing them otherwise.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 10:34 - Oct 18 with 1966 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 10:07 - Oct 18 by Swansea_Blue
He is patronising. But then he was spot on about the whole farcical Brexit episode, pretty much every single part of it from the self-interested liars who were driving it through to the grifting press and columnists supporting them.
I've no idea what he's up to now though, as I tuned out of social media (except here!) earlier in the year and it's the best thing I've done in ages.
If this sort of shock jock stuff annoys people, I strongly recommend ignoring it and ignoring people on social media complaining about it. It's not important.
Whether or not the Brexit decision was the right one (and I voted Remain), he was at the forefront of the campaign for a second referendum, something I regarded as totally illiberal because it sought to overturn a democratic vote.
And I can't imagine a week goes by when he doesn't bring up Brexit, and how wrong the Brexiters were.
I occasionally do tune into him but normally give up quickly because he generally interrupts and castigates those who don't agree with him.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 11:02 - Oct 18 with 1892 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 09:56 - Oct 18 by Blueschev
I'd expect those listening with opposing views think "who's this arrogant pr!ck?!"
I'm trying to be optimistic. An irritant can provoke change. I can also be cynical of human nature, our limited ability to actually negotiate rsther that argue, the foul influence of media echo chambers generally and paricularly anyone selling their 'opinion'.
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James O'Brien talking sense on 18:43 - Oct 18 with 1786 views
James O'Brien talking sense on 10:34 - Oct 18 by DJR
And I imagine very few people with opposing views even listen to him.
He is by far and away the most biased presenter on LBC, a station I listen to a lot.
I put LBC on when I go to bed and leave it running, I can't sleep without a radio on. I drift in and out listening to it until about 6 ish when I start to stir and then listen to most of Ferrari and JOB.
I like listening to opposite views but JOB comes across as one of those tvvats at school that everyone wants to hit.
I used to like listening to Steve Allen, even though he was a pompous old fruit.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.