| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point 10:56 - Oct 30 with 16620 views | blueasfook |
Shocking scenes from Dagestan - a mainly Muslim Russian republic. Airport stormed and ransacked looking for Jews. God knows what they would have done to any Jews they might have found.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67258332
EDIT - I see GB already posted about it below! [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 11:00]
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 13:24 - Oct 31 with 3330 views | LaManga |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 12:05 - Oct 31 by GlasgowBlue |
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This is a `are we the baddies' moment, isn't it. |  | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 13:26 - Oct 31 with 3324 views | giant_stow |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 12:14 - Oct 31 by DJR |
I am not sure there is anything more awful or sinister than that. [Post edited 31 Oct 2023 12:14]
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Terrifying. |  |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 20:21 - Oct 31 with 3180 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 13:26 - Oct 31 by giant_stow |
Terrifying. |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 20:31 - Oct 31 with 3141 views | J2BLUE |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 20:21 - Oct 31 by GlasgowBlue |
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Absolutely disgusting.
Anyone found guilty of doing that graffiti should be charged with the same offences if it leads to people/property being targeted by others. Absolute cowardly scum to do that. |  |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 21:00 - Oct 31 with 3069 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 20:31 - Oct 31 by J2BLUE |
Absolutely disgusting.
Anyone found guilty of doing that graffiti should be charged with the same offences if it leads to people/property being targeted by others. Absolute cowardly scum to do that. |
I've been posting about antisemitism for longer than I care to remember. I've seen some absolutely vile examples in that time. But I never once thought that it could gain the widespread momentum we've seen across the world since the 7/10 pogrom.
Yeah, the conflation between Israel and Jews worldwide was always there, usually disguised as anti zionism. The actuations of dual loyalty. The dismissal of Jews who complained about antisemitism as being organised by the Israel lobby.
But this has gone totally off the scale. I'm beginning to see how what was an initial boycott of Jewish businesses and professionals went to Kristallnacht and then the Holocaust within just a few years. | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 21:10 - Oct 31 with 3053 views | DJR |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 20:21 - Oct 31 by GlasgowBlue |
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Tragic. |  | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:16 - Nov 7 with 2731 views | DJR |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 13:35 - Oct 30 by blueasfook |
It's being seen all over Europe. Many European capitals saw mass protests over the weekend. At what point do these protests become riots? I'd feel pretty unsafe as a Jewish person right now in a place like London, Paris or Berlin. |
Interestingly, I met a Jewish friend from Paris in London yesterday and he said he didn't really sense that much antisemitic sentiment there (although there has been a spike in reported incidents). He felt that the fact that pro-Palestinian marches had been banned had helped in this regard. [Post edited 7 Nov 2023 10:19]
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:22 - Nov 7 with 2696 views | Ryorry |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:16 - Nov 7 by DJR |
Interestingly, I met a Jewish friend from Paris in London yesterday and he said he didn't really sense that much antisemitic sentiment there (although there has been a spike in reported incidents). He felt that the fact that pro-Palestinian marches had been banned had helped in this regard. [Post edited 7 Nov 2023 10:19]
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Remembrance Day in London may be a flashpoint with the protest march planned for later on though. Potential tinderbox that I wouldn't want to be present at, with extremist groups likely to tag onto it. |  |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:28 - Nov 7 with 2674 views | giant_stow |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:16 - Nov 7 by DJR |
Interestingly, I met a Jewish friend from Paris in London yesterday and he said he didn't really sense that much antisemitic sentiment there (although there has been a spike in reported incidents). He felt that the fact that pro-Palestinian marches had been banned had helped in this regard. [Post edited 7 Nov 2023 10:19]
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I'm glad your mate feels safe, but that feeling of security isn't shared by all:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jewish-man-london-anti-semitism-trafalgar-
"Jewish security charity Community Security Trust (CST) said on Friday it had recorded at least 1,019 anti-Semitic incidents across the UK in the 28 days since the violence began. More than half of these - 578 - were recorded in London.
It marked a 537 per cent rise on the 160 anti-Semitic incidents recorded across the UK in the same 28 days last year, and significantly more than the 803 incidents reported across the first half of this year." | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:31 - Nov 7 with 2658 views | Blueschev |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:22 - Nov 7 by Ryorry |
Remembrance Day in London may be a flashpoint with the protest march planned for later on though. Potential tinderbox that I wouldn't want to be present at, with extremist groups likely to tag onto it. |
I'm very concerned that it may kick off in London on Saturday. I'd expect the police to be more heavy handed, and the protestors more angry. Also others may be more aware than I, but is there any kind of far-right counter demonstration planned to "protect" the Cenotaph? |  | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:32 - Nov 7 with 2651 views | giant_stow |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:22 - Nov 7 by Ryorry |
Remembrance Day in London may be a flashpoint with the protest march planned for later on though. Potential tinderbox that I wouldn't want to be present at, with extremist groups likely to tag onto it. |
it could get very nasty. i support the right to protest and doubt its bannable now in any case - everyone would turn up on mass in any case.
I just hope the nutters don't ruin it and for that matter, families stay away. | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:34 - Nov 7 with 2648 views | giant_stow |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:31 - Nov 7 by Blueschev |
I'm very concerned that it may kick off in London on Saturday. I'd expect the police to be more heavy handed, and the protestors more angry. Also others may be more aware than I, but is there any kind of far-right counter demonstration planned to "protect" the Cenotaph? |
I've seen people mentioning a protest to protect the Cenotaph too, but no actual formal announcement.
Agree it could get very ugly indeed. | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:37 - Nov 7 with 2642 views | DJR |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:28 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
I'm glad your mate feels safe, but that feeling of security isn't shared by all:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jewish-man-london-anti-semitism-trafalgar-
"Jewish security charity Community Security Trust (CST) said on Friday it had recorded at least 1,019 anti-Semitic incidents across the UK in the 28 days since the violence began. More than half of these - 578 - were recorded in London.
It marked a 537 per cent rise on the 160 anti-Semitic incidents recorded across the UK in the same 28 days last year, and significantly more than the 803 incidents reported across the first half of this year." |
Don't get me wrong. I wasn't trying to minimise things as I abhor antisemitism. I was only responding to a comment about the situation in Paris, and thought it interesting to get the take of someone living there who is Jewish.
It also mustn't be forgotten that the French State, in its pursuit of secularism, has banned certain types of Islamic headdress and the like. As it is, my friend thinks that such bans go too far. [Post edited 7 Nov 2023 10:40]
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:38 - Nov 7 with 2632 views | baxterbasics |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:31 - Nov 7 by Blueschev |
I'm very concerned that it may kick off in London on Saturday. I'd expect the police to be more heavy handed, and the protestors more angry. Also others may be more aware than I, but is there any kind of far-right counter demonstration planned to "protect" the Cenotaph? |
If there is it will be small, ineffective, and quickly dealt with I expect - because that's easier pickings for the police. But will no doubt grab disproportionate headlines.
I'm thinking it's time to dust this classic off from my international security studies modules for a re-read:
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:42 - Nov 7 with 2610 views | Churchman |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:22 - Nov 7 by Ryorry |
Remembrance Day in London may be a flashpoint with the protest march planned for later on though. Potential tinderbox that I wouldn't want to be present at, with extremist groups likely to tag onto it. |
I will be in London on Remembrance Sunday as I always am. It’s what I and 1000s do for very good reasons.
Unless of course ‘freedom of expression’ means Remembrance is cancelled in favour of the march. Defacing the Cenotaph? Who cares. It’s only a bit of warmongering old stone that should be torn down anyway. Some things are more important.
The above paragraph is total rubbish, but I’d put money on a good number of ignorant people holding that view. They wouldn’t be protesting this weekend if this wasn’t a factor.
The clue to Remembrance is the word itself. Just take a walk around any of the Commonwealth War cemeteries and you will see war is no respecter of age, colour, religion, nationality or anything else.
Those who wish to wreck or hijack Remembrance Sunday disgust me. |  | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:45 - Nov 7 with 2588 views | Blueschev |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:38 - Nov 7 by baxterbasics |
If there is it will be small, ineffective, and quickly dealt with I expect - because that's easier pickings for the police. But will no doubt grab disproportionate headlines.
I'm thinking it's time to dust this classic off from my international security studies modules for a re-read:
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I also read that as a student. The endorsement on the cover just about summed it up for me. I imagine you felt differently. | | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:46 - Nov 7 with 2586 views | baxterbasics |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:42 - Nov 7 by Churchman |
I will be in London on Remembrance Sunday as I always am. It’s what I and 1000s do for very good reasons.
Unless of course ‘freedom of expression’ means Remembrance is cancelled in favour of the march. Defacing the Cenotaph? Who cares. It’s only a bit of warmongering old stone that should be torn down anyway. Some things are more important.
The above paragraph is total rubbish, but I’d put money on a good number of ignorant people holding that view. They wouldn’t be protesting this weekend if this wasn’t a factor.
The clue to Remembrance is the word itself. Just take a walk around any of the Commonwealth War cemeteries and you will see war is no respecter of age, colour, religion, nationality or anything else.
Those who wish to wreck or hijack Remembrance Sunday disgust me. |
Totally agree. Everyone is of course within their rights to not observe remembrance if they so wish, but disrupting it for those who do is particularly scummy. | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:47 - Nov 7 with 2568 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:28 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
I'm glad your mate feels safe, but that feeling of security isn't shared by all:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jewish-man-london-anti-semitism-trafalgar-
"Jewish security charity Community Security Trust (CST) said on Friday it had recorded at least 1,019 anti-Semitic incidents across the UK in the 28 days since the violence began. More than half of these - 578 - were recorded in London.
It marked a 537 per cent rise on the 160 anti-Semitic incidents recorded across the UK in the same 28 days last year, and significantly more than the 803 incidents reported across the first half of this year." |
It’s a shame to see protests banned; and I assume this is to avoid any potential violence from extremists that may attend?
Is there a historical reason why Palestinian protests attract such huge numbers. Clearly it’s a horrific situation (as been discussed at length on other threads so I don’t want to deviate this one). I don’t recall seeing such big protests for example against Russian aggression against Ukraine and its civilians.
Likewise the violence and death doled out by various despots in the Middle East on a daily basis, eg in Yemen, or Iran through its various factions. Assad’s regime is thought to have been responsible for over 200,000 civilian casualties in the Civil War, yet rarely it is mentioned let alone protested? | | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:50 - Nov 7 with 2551 views | baxterbasics |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:45 - Nov 7 by Blueschev |
I also read that as a student. The endorsement on the cover just about summed it up for me. I imagine you felt differently. |
Well I'm not about to mount a stirring defence of Kissinger, no worries there. How is the guy still alive!? Saw him in the flesh on his way into St Pauls for Mrs Ts funeral. | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:53 - Nov 7 with 2543 views | Ryorry |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:42 - Nov 7 by Churchman |
I will be in London on Remembrance Sunday as I always am. It’s what I and 1000s do for very good reasons.
Unless of course ‘freedom of expression’ means Remembrance is cancelled in favour of the march. Defacing the Cenotaph? Who cares. It’s only a bit of warmongering old stone that should be torn down anyway. Some things are more important.
The above paragraph is total rubbish, but I’d put money on a good number of ignorant people holding that view. They wouldn’t be protesting this weekend if this wasn’t a factor.
The clue to Remembrance is the word itself. Just take a walk around any of the Commonwealth War cemeteries and you will see war is no respecter of age, colour, religion, nationality or anything else.
Those who wish to wreck or hijack Remembrance Sunday disgust me. |
I was referring to the protest march planned for later on, not the formal Remembrance Service at the Cenotaph, which I always take time out to observe, and would also like to be at in person if I could. I usually go to local ones on the day. | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:54 - Nov 7 with 2540 views | LaManga |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:42 - Nov 7 by Churchman |
I will be in London on Remembrance Sunday as I always am. It’s what I and 1000s do for very good reasons.
Unless of course ‘freedom of expression’ means Remembrance is cancelled in favour of the march. Defacing the Cenotaph? Who cares. It’s only a bit of warmongering old stone that should be torn down anyway. Some things are more important.
The above paragraph is total rubbish, but I’d put money on a good number of ignorant people holding that view. They wouldn’t be protesting this weekend if this wasn’t a factor.
The clue to Remembrance is the word itself. Just take a walk around any of the Commonwealth War cemeteries and you will see war is no respecter of age, colour, religion, nationality or anything else.
Those who wish to wreck or hijack Remembrance Sunday disgust me. |
Will be going down on Saturday and Sunday. Feels like it could be a significant weekend in our countries history. | | | |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:59 - Nov 7 with 2508 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:28 - Nov 7 by giant_stow |
I'm glad your mate feels safe, but that feeling of security isn't shared by all:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jewish-man-london-anti-semitism-trafalgar-
"Jewish security charity Community Security Trust (CST) said on Friday it had recorded at least 1,019 anti-Semitic incidents across the UK in the 28 days since the violence began. More than half of these - 578 - were recorded in London.
It marked a 537 per cent rise on the 160 anti-Semitic incidents recorded across the UK in the same 28 days last year, and significantly more than the 803 incidents reported across the first half of this year." |
Coming to a city near us very soon.
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 11:55 - Nov 7 with 2405 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:59 - Nov 7 by GlasgowBlue |
Coming to a city near us very soon.
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Just awful and utterly senseless. And I can't see tensions easing anytime soon while the atrocities being carried out (by both sides in this conflict) remain front and centre in the news. People display a terrifying tendency towards mob mentality, responding to events and causes that often have nothing to do with them.
I just hope the troublemakers stay away in London at the weekend, but suspect that's a tall ask.
As much as anything, I feel sorry that the Jewish community isn't being given the space it needs to grieve after the Hamas massacre. Events in Gaza are overshadowing what happened. Partly that's understandable, due to the scale and ongoing nature of the bombings, but people should never forget what happened on 7/10. |  |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 12:03 - Nov 7 with 2367 views | positivity |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:31 - Nov 7 by Blueschev |
I'm very concerned that it may kick off in London on Saturday. I'd expect the police to be more heavy handed, and the protestors more angry. Also others may be more aware than I, but is there any kind of far-right counter demonstration planned to "protect" the Cenotaph? |
the noted-holocaust deniers of the national front will be there; odd that we haven't heard sue-ellen talk about banning them... | |
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| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 12:10 - Nov 7 with 2334 views | noggin |
| Anti-Jewish anger is at boiling point on 10:42 - Nov 7 by Churchman |
I will be in London on Remembrance Sunday as I always am. It’s what I and 1000s do for very good reasons.
Unless of course ‘freedom of expression’ means Remembrance is cancelled in favour of the march. Defacing the Cenotaph? Who cares. It’s only a bit of warmongering old stone that should be torn down anyway. Some things are more important.
The above paragraph is total rubbish, but I’d put money on a good number of ignorant people holding that view. They wouldn’t be protesting this weekend if this wasn’t a factor.
The clue to Remembrance is the word itself. Just take a walk around any of the Commonwealth War cemeteries and you will see war is no respecter of age, colour, religion, nationality or anything else.
Those who wish to wreck or hijack Remembrance Sunday disgust me. |
Indeed. I'm all for freedom of protest but the march should be called off as a mark of compassion and respect. |  |
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