| My take on yesterday FWIW 08:03 - Nov 5 with 7231 views | textbackup |
Credit where it’s due, and I think as you mature you realise it’s not us being ‘sht’ you can credit the opposition.
Brum were exactly as you’d imagine a Rooney team would be. They lack quality but gave us absolutely no time in the first half, it was in your face, and as intense as I think we’ve faced this season.
Scarlett showed THAT moment of quality yesterday that I think we’ve all been waiting for. Great from Harness too.
Fantastic to come away with a point.
On to the less positive - the sheer entitlement and arrogance from (I’m going for huge number of fans) is actually really sht. Seeing what they say online, and what I hear from those at the game yesterday. What’s wrong with people.
Anyway, I’d have been over the moon with 4 points from brum and rovverham, so bring on Tuesday. |  |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:16 - Nov 5 with 1856 views | FrimleyBlue |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:12 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
Great post.
You forgot one. Burgess was slaughtered by some before a ball was kicked this season. League One player, too slow, not good enough for the Championship, get in two top central defenders before the transfer window shuts was the basic line. Some have now moved on to unfairly hammering Clarke.
Overall our crowd is supportive. The way we get behind the team if we fall behind is really good and very unusual. But you are right. There are those that like nothing better than a good moan or someone to pick on. Sad but to be expected, I suppose, in a support of any size. |
Hang on.
You're both shocked that people discussed who they felt weren't up to the next level...
There's been discussions recently about who could make it in the prem.. is that not allowed then? |  |
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| This board went full weird yesterday on 11:17 - Nov 5 with 1858 views | unstableblue |
The only take I have from yesterday is what a superb battling draw that will actually give the team and season momentum.
Yes the conditions were terrible, yes Lady Luck finally ran out on us, yes Brum were so fired up and set-up to press us away from what we can do. Yes we’re losing all the duels.
But second half rally that sub impact - just wow.
Now we need to go and smash Rotherham.
But again yesterday was a result and performance that builds momentum, that give belief, not as so many were saying was some continuation of poor form or a step back.
COYB
“Marcus Harness…. We’ve got” |  |
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| Keep up on 11:19 - Nov 5 with 1837 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Keep up on 11:15 - Nov 5 by Dyland |
We're talking about fans at the game and on Twitter or the chat room, not this message board per se.
You love to leap on little things don't you. Would've thought you'd be more circumspect considering other posters do it (often unfairly) to you all the time. |
Not at all. He was talking about message boards and you talked about the slagging off.. I was just saying to haven't seen it.
As you're talking about at games... then that's different.. however people pay their money so have a right to do what they want. ( not the morsy situation last season tho)
And twitter is full of bots. So you can kinda ignore it. | |
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| What an odd response on 11:21 - Nov 5 with 1838 views | Dyland |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:16 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Hang on.
You're both shocked that people discussed who they felt weren't up to the next level...
There's been discussions recently about who could make it in the prem.. is that not allowed then? |
Of course it's allowed.
As is calling fans out for getting it totally wrong. QED. |  |
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| Keep up on 11:22 - Nov 5 with 1835 views | Dyland |
| Keep up on 11:19 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Not at all. He was talking about message boards and you talked about the slagging off.. I was just saying to haven't seen it.
As you're talking about at games... then that's different.. however people pay their money so have a right to do what they want. ( not the morsy situation last season tho)
And twitter is full of bots. So you can kinda ignore it. |
"On to the less positive - the sheer entitlement and arrogance from (I’m going for huge number of fans) is actually really sht. Seeing what they say online, and what I hear from those at the game yesterday. What’s wrong with people."
Try looking at the posts I'm replying to. Touche :) | |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:23 - Nov 5 with 1833 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Fans that think Rotherham away on a cold Tuesday night is a given 3 points…. Oh dear, play like we have done in the last few games and we are in for a shock! |  |
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| What an odd response on 11:24 - Nov 5 with 1825 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What an odd response on 11:21 - Nov 5 by Dyland |
Of course it's allowed.
As is calling fans out for getting it totally wrong. QED. |
But why bemoan it happening if its allowed..
You've all got a rather odd rule about what is deemed as acceptable discussions to be had between town fans. | |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:34 - Nov 5 with 1812 views | Churchman |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:16 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue |
Hang on.
You're both shocked that people discussed who they felt weren't up to the next level...
There's been discussions recently about who could make it in the prem.. is that not allowed then? |
It’s not a question of things not being allowed. This is a forum and within the bounds of decency its purpose is for people to express opinion.
Burgess on the day of the Sunderland game before a ball was kicked was slaughtered as a liability, not good enough. He was written off. Not even given a chance, despite the manager having faith in him. In my opinion, that was unfair. You clearly think otherwise.
In my opinion discussing and disagreeing is fine, as is the case on another thread on here regarding Clarke. Everyone agreeing on everything would be plain weird. But in my view some of the negativity goes beyond reasonable limits, lacks balance and at times is frankly ludicrous - like a small minority hammering McKenna in Feb.
The discussing of who would make it in the PL? Up to individuals if it interests them. For me that kind of discussion is not for now - but that’s just my view. |  | | |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:35 - Nov 5 with 1815 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 09:20 - Nov 5 by Guthrum |
Same as back in January and February. Ipswich fans are not yet comfortable enough in their skins for setbacks not to raise up demons of collapse and dashed hopes from the Lambert years. |
.....And the Keane, Jewell, Hurst and Cook years.....
This is a statistic that really got me yesterday
In our playoff season (2014/15) after 14 games we had 21 Points
In our playoff season (2004/05) after 14 games we had 26 Points
In our playoff season (2003/04) after 14 games we had 23 Points
In our play off win (1999/2000) after 14 games we had 25 Points
In our Div2 winning season (1991/92) after 14 games we had 25 Points.
In the 80/81 season when we should have won the league, we had 30 points.
In our league one championship season under Sir Alf, after 14 games we had 23 points.
We're currently on 35 points 5 points better than 80/81.
Our fans are in a state of disbelief and waiting on the wheels coming off, if it weren't for Leicester, we'd be running away with it. |  |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:42 - Nov 5 with 1799 views | FrimleyBlue |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:34 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
It’s not a question of things not being allowed. This is a forum and within the bounds of decency its purpose is for people to express opinion.
Burgess on the day of the Sunderland game before a ball was kicked was slaughtered as a liability, not good enough. He was written off. Not even given a chance, despite the manager having faith in him. In my opinion, that was unfair. You clearly think otherwise.
In my opinion discussing and disagreeing is fine, as is the case on another thread on here regarding Clarke. Everyone agreeing on everything would be plain weird. But in my view some of the negativity goes beyond reasonable limits, lacks balance and at times is frankly ludicrous - like a small minority hammering McKenna in Feb.
The discussing of who would make it in the PL? Up to individuals if it interests them. For me that kind of discussion is not for now - but that’s just my view. |
I think it's just normal for fans esp on forums etc to discuss lineups and players and yes this includes who they don't feel they personally would have in the team. Its just football and yes completely normal.
It's normal to write off players. It's normal to overrate players too. Imo neither is wrong and I don't feel its right personally that doing either is brought up like its a problem caused by over entitled fans. It's not. Just just completely normal within a sport which has always been discussed in depth and everyone pretending they're the manager every week.
It's football and it would be worse without it. | |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:56 - Nov 5 with 1782 views | stonojnr |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:12 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
Great post.
You forgot one. Burgess was slaughtered by some before a ball was kicked this season. League One player, too slow, not good enough for the Championship, get in two top central defenders before the transfer window shuts was the basic line. Some have now moved on to unfairly hammering Clarke.
Overall our crowd is supportive. The way we get behind the team if we fall behind is really good and very unusual. But you are right. There are those that like nothing better than a good moan or someone to pick on. Sad but to be expected, I suppose, in a support of any size. |
thats always been the case though, fans seem to pick on the one player for some reason, often a youngish defender bizarrely, to blame for everything that goes wrong and not understanding they arent a grizzled old pro yet and if they were theyd probably not be playing for us at the moment.
Im sure McKenna and the team are looking after Clarke |  | | |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 12:13 - Nov 5 with 1762 views | stonojnr |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:35 - Nov 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
.....And the Keane, Jewell, Hurst and Cook years.....
This is a statistic that really got me yesterday
In our playoff season (2014/15) after 14 games we had 21 Points
In our playoff season (2004/05) after 14 games we had 26 Points
In our playoff season (2003/04) after 14 games we had 23 Points
In our play off win (1999/2000) after 14 games we had 25 Points
In our Div2 winning season (1991/92) after 14 games we had 25 Points.
In the 80/81 season when we should have won the league, we had 30 points.
In our league one championship season under Sir Alf, after 14 games we had 23 points.
We're currently on 35 points 5 points better than 80/81.
Our fans are in a state of disbelief and waiting on the wheels coming off, if it weren't for Leicester, we'd be running away with it. |
but the danger is believing the disbelief is really the norm now and I dont think younger supporters get that part yet, and when the inevitable hiccup comes, and if Birmingham is as bad as it gets then we aint got a problem.
but Ive said repeatedly about what happens if we go through a bad patch of form start dropping down the table, will McKenna get the support from those fans, which he should because he's done more than enough for us to trust him by now, or will it be like in Jan/Feb when they were demanding a change because he'd "blown it"? | | | |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 13:41 - Nov 5 with 1724 views | Herbivore |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 11:23 - Nov 5 by Wallingford_Boy |
Fans that think Rotherham away on a cold Tuesday night is a given 3 points…. Oh dear, play like we have done in the last few games and we are in for a shock! |
I can't quite work out if you've gone full troll or you're just a massive fanny. The way we've played the last few games has been good enough to take 7 points off three sides who are all considerably better than Rotherham. I'm taking nothing for granted, a long trip on a Tuesday after a tough away game on Saturday is never easy and Rotherham will always work hard and put teams under pressure. However, to make out like we're playing terribly and shouldn't expect to get a result is ridiculous. |  |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 14:39 - Nov 5 with 1672 views | BlueBadger |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 13:41 - Nov 5 by Herbivore |
I can't quite work out if you've gone full troll or you're just a massive fanny. The way we've played the last few games has been good enough to take 7 points off three sides who are all considerably better than Rotherham. I'm taking nothing for granted, a long trip on a Tuesday after a tough away game on Saturday is never easy and Rotherham will always work hard and put teams under pressure. However, to make out like we're playing terribly and shouldn't expect to get a result is ridiculous. |
Wallers has always been a troll, but one who chases trends rather than actually devloping a style of his own.
Three years ago he was a Paz tribute act. Now he's not even Frimmers tribute act, he's a TalkingSh1te tribute act. |  |
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| My take on yesterday FWIW on 14:59 - Nov 5 with 1650 views | bazza |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 10:54 - Nov 5 by BloomBlue |
Town have always had a large number of entitled fans but it has got worse recently. It's something that I've predicted all season, a couple of bad results and those entitled fans will turn on KM.
Yesterday you had fans declaring at 2-0 'if you cannot beat Birmingham then you won't get into the automatic position'.
Wtf, entitlement that in football you can just expect to beat teams.
I also dislike the selecting of one player as a scapegoat. Harness, in preseason was the player we need to let go, he'll never make a championship player etc etc. Now it's Clarke, although don't forget Williams after 10 minutes of football apparently 'will never make a footballer, fecking useless'
As you say you have to give credit to the opposition sometimes. Rooney apparently is 'a fecking useless manager because he sha**ed a granny'. The fact is you can see he has been working with his squad over the last few weeks, he is now gradually changing how they play and they ran nonstop for him especially in that first half. But according to the entitled fans because Brum have lost 3 games the granny sha**er cannot change them and we should beat them 5 or 6 nil. |
To be fair , Every club has them.. not just town. |  | | |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 15:18 - Nov 5 with 1611 views | Reus30 |
The only take of significance I have is that we somehow rescued a point when potentially we didn't deserve one. Thrilled really, subs were just relentless and Harness and Dane had that little bit of quality. Wasn't really an under-performance as such, effort was there just Brum really wanted it.
This is an ultra competitive league - we will lose games.
Side note - too many arrogant fans as well (see reddit for example). It's November, chill tfo we don't want to become unlikeable. |  | | |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 16:11 - Nov 5 with 1529 views | DJR |
| My take on yesterday FWIW on 15:18 - Nov 5 by Reus30 |
The only take of significance I have is that we somehow rescued a point when potentially we didn't deserve one. Thrilled really, subs were just relentless and Harness and Dane had that little bit of quality. Wasn't really an under-performance as such, effort was there just Brum really wanted it.
This is an ultra competitive league - we will lose games.
Side note - too many arrogant fans as well (see reddit for example). It's November, chill tfo we don't want to become unlikeable. |
I think we did deserve a point. Birmingham's first goal came somewhat out of the blue in terms of actual chances, and their second was a bit of a freak after we had stepped up our game in the second half
And the stats speak for themselves, with 67% possession, 17 shots to their 13 and 7 shots on target to their 3.
And why Clarke got only 5.1 in the TWTD ratings I've no idea, because I thought both he and the rest of the defence played well and limited them to very few real chances? [Post edited 5 Nov 2023 16:12]
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