| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:03 - Nov 12 with 777 views | Jimmy86 |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 09:44 - Nov 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I'd say thats his only mistake this season and also the winning run at the end of last season.
Your first sentence there is utter b0llocks. |
Take the blue tinted specs off... You said yourself you didn't know why he didn't foul him outside the box, so you also saw it yourself! |  | |  |
| Clarke needs to improve, and quickly on 12:08 - Nov 12 with 759 views | Dyland |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 21:03 - Nov 11 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Woolfenden ought to have nailed him.
As for Clarke ... it's totally unacceptable. |
But... "totally unacceptable"?
Hyperbole at best, at worst totally ridiculous. |  |
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| I love how balanced he is on 12:20 - Nov 12 with 738 views | Dyland |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 19:18 - Nov 11 by unstableblue |
Our boss:
"It shouldn't have been 3-2. There's bits of frustration in there but there's lots of good things about the game and the way that we played, the way that we overcame adversity and played some really good football and could have had any number of goals really. We should have been out of sight and I didn't really like how we played the last 15 minutes against the 10 men. I didn't like our concentration level. I didn't like our humility.
"We dropped our concentration levels. It's not just the frustration in the staff room it's frustration in the dressing room that we didn't maintain our standards for the last 15 minutes of that game. Sometimes something goes against you. There's a lesson in there, but on the other hand massive credit to the group, massive credit to the response, massive credit to how we played throughout the first half, the way we came out in the second half, the way we chased down and built pressure for the third goal. There was some outstanding things in there." |
"We should have been out of sight and I didn't really like how we played the last 15 minutes against the 10 men. I didn't like our concentration level. I didn't like our humility."
That's very damning. Yet he follows it with some pretty gushing praise. I imagine any footballer would love to play for this bloke. Fair, reasonable and motivational. | |
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| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:29 - Nov 12 with 728 views | Herbivore |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 11:59 - Nov 12 by Jimmy86 |
Tuanzebe is a better defender than Wolf though and wouldn't have got beaten the way Wolf did for their 2nd goal... Simple as that.. whatever way you look at it, Wolfie got skinned by Lowe, Lowe scored... That's poor defending, not nonsense.. |
You described him as quite poor defensively, which is patently nonsense. Is that the same Tuanzebe who got caught between covering his man and intercepting the cross for Rotherham's opening goal and ended up doing neither? I could just as easily claim that if Woolfenden had been playing on Tuesday he'd have cut out the cross because he reads the game far better than our other defenders. It's all speculation. What we have seen this season is Woolfenden largely being excellent and the mistake yesterday was far from typical of how he's been playing. To claim he's poor defensively is gubbins, to assert Tuanzebe is much better is not based on any evidence we've seen so far. |  |
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| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:46 - Nov 12 with 715 views | Jimmy86 |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:29 - Nov 12 by Herbivore |
You described him as quite poor defensively, which is patently nonsense. Is that the same Tuanzebe who got caught between covering his man and intercepting the cross for Rotherham's opening goal and ended up doing neither? I could just as easily claim that if Woolfenden had been playing on Tuesday he'd have cut out the cross because he reads the game far better than our other defenders. It's all speculation. What we have seen this season is Woolfenden largely being excellent and the mistake yesterday was far from typical of how he's been playing. To claim he's poor defensively is gubbins, to assert Tuanzebe is much better is not based on any evidence we've seen so far. |
Yea, that's all fair enough, he's always been quite laid back, as he admits himself, I think he's a hybrid between a CB and a defensive mid. He does read the game well, but to me he's not what you'd call a gnarly defender... You think back to the Tommy Smith, Berra days, they were nowhere near as good on the ball as Woolfie, but they were defenders who loved defending kind of thing and I don't get that impression of Wolf..
Swansea's 2nd goal yesterday was poor from our point of view as McKenna alluded to | | | |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:51 - Nov 12 with 705 views | Herbivore |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:46 - Nov 12 by Jimmy86 |
Yea, that's all fair enough, he's always been quite laid back, as he admits himself, I think he's a hybrid between a CB and a defensive mid. He does read the game well, but to me he's not what you'd call a gnarly defender... You think back to the Tommy Smith, Berra days, they were nowhere near as good on the ball as Woolfie, but they were defenders who loved defending kind of thing and I don't get that impression of Wolf..
Swansea's 2nd goal yesterday was poor from our point of view as McKenna alluded to |
I think that's a very old fashioned view of defending. Woolf is excellent defensively, he's solid in the air, reads the game superbly, and generally martials his man very well. Yesterday was an exception rather than the norm, I'm struggling to think of any other goals we've conceded this season from Woolf being skinned like that because it generally doesn't happen. Just because Woolf isn't a lump it forward, no nonsense type centre back people often make silly statements about him not being able to defend when he's excellent defensively, he just goes about it in a different way to the likes of a Smith or a Berra and for me he has a higher ceiling than both of them. | |
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| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:03 - Nov 12 with 695 views | Jimmy86 |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 12:51 - Nov 12 by Herbivore |
I think that's a very old fashioned view of defending. Woolf is excellent defensively, he's solid in the air, reads the game superbly, and generally martials his man very well. Yesterday was an exception rather than the norm, I'm struggling to think of any other goals we've conceded this season from Woolf being skinned like that because it generally doesn't happen. Just because Woolf isn't a lump it forward, no nonsense type centre back people often make silly statements about him not being able to defend when he's excellent defensively, he just goes about it in a different way to the likes of a Smith or a Berra and for me he has a higher ceiling than both of them. |
Agreed, he has a higher ceiling than both of them and I wouldn't want a no nonsense, lump it at all costs defender, but what I would want, is for any of our defenders, not just Wolf I might add, be able to do clear the lines, instead of play themselves into trouble, think that's the key, is knowing when to play and also when to clear it type thing... McKenna has always been clear about how he wants them to play, but maybe we have to get a happy medium, as we're conceding too many goals at home | | | |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:08 - Nov 12 with 687 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
It happens every game at points, we’re just reluctant to make a significant challenge and then the opposition score, it just takes someone to make the decision sometimes. In the case of the second it was just backing off without making any decision to try and challenge that allowed him to score so easily. |  | | |
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| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:11 - Nov 12 with 663 views | Herbivore |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:03 - Nov 12 by Jimmy86 |
Agreed, he has a higher ceiling than both of them and I wouldn't want a no nonsense, lump it at all costs defender, but what I would want, is for any of our defenders, not just Wolf I might add, be able to do clear the lines, instead of play themselves into trouble, think that's the key, is knowing when to play and also when to clear it type thing... McKenna has always been clear about how he wants them to play, but maybe we have to get a happy medium, as we're conceding too many goals at home |
But yesterday had nothing to do with him not clearing it, he never had the ball. I agree he should probably have just fouled him and then we defend the set piece but I can understand not wanting to give a free kick away in a dangerous position as well. He probably expected there'd be a covering defender in behind him as well. But that was very much not the norm for Woolf yesterday, he makes very few mistakes and even fewer costly mistakes. I also think as a general point that few (if any) of the goals we concede are a result of us trying to play out rather than clearing our lines. | |
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| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:21 - Nov 12 with 654 views | Jimmy86 |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:11 - Nov 12 by Herbivore |
But yesterday had nothing to do with him not clearing it, he never had the ball. I agree he should probably have just fouled him and then we defend the set piece but I can understand not wanting to give a free kick away in a dangerous position as well. He probably expected there'd be a covering defender in behind him as well. But that was very much not the norm for Woolf yesterday, he makes very few mistakes and even fewer costly mistakes. I also think as a general point that few (if any) of the goals we concede are a result of us trying to play out rather than clearing our lines. |
I think we do need to improve defensively, if we are going to continue our march towards the premier League... Think KMck knows that too! I was perhaps overly harsh on Woolfie regarding that 2nd goal yesterday... All in all it's great being a town fan again ATM, let it continue! | | | |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 13:29 - Nov 12 with 646 views | Vegtablue |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 09:44 - Nov 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
I'd say thats his only mistake this season and also the winning run at the end of last season.
Your first sentence there is utter b0llocks. |
Woolf's great but I can quickly think of two more this season and I've not been counting aha, would be freaky if he didn't put a foot wrong every so often. Tackling dribblers is normally a strength though.
If Mach is labelling Clarke's covering (or lack thereof!) unacceptable, which I agree with in the sense that it should be flagged and we can't afford him to switch off like that, we should be using similar adjectives to describe Woolf's switching off once the player is past. He didn't have a chance of blocking the eventual effort but he should have been between the sticks by the time it was struck. | | | |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 13:44 - Nov 12 with 639 views | cooperd5 |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 19:21 - Nov 11 by SitfcB |
Can always tell when McKenna is pleased after a game, he’ll hang about and clap the fans with the players, hugging them etc giving fist pumps…
Today he quickly clapped the fans and walked off by himself  |
Yeahni said to my son that he doesn't look too pleased.
Which is good as he wants standards to get higher all the time |  | | |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 15:09 - Nov 12 with 567 views | Sharkey |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 19:18 - Nov 11 by unstableblue |
Our boss:
"It shouldn't have been 3-2. There's bits of frustration in there but there's lots of good things about the game and the way that we played, the way that we overcame adversity and played some really good football and could have had any number of goals really. We should have been out of sight and I didn't really like how we played the last 15 minutes against the 10 men. I didn't like our concentration level. I didn't like our humility.
"We dropped our concentration levels. It's not just the frustration in the staff room it's frustration in the dressing room that we didn't maintain our standards for the last 15 minutes of that game. Sometimes something goes against you. There's a lesson in there, but on the other hand massive credit to the group, massive credit to the response, massive credit to how we played throughout the first half, the way we came out in the second half, the way we chased down and built pressure for the third goal. There was some outstanding things in there." |
What does "I didn't like our humility". Does it mean he thought there was too little show-boating, or too much? |  | | |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 15:46 - Nov 12 with 531 views | Buhrer |
| I don’t think Keiran is disagreeing it was a poor goal to give away on 15:09 - Nov 12 by Sharkey |
What does "I didn't like our humility". Does it mean he thought there was too little show-boating, or too much? |
I took it as "I wanted to see us crush Swansea, driving the ball among them, hearing the lamentations of their fans .... but we were too fekking humble" |  | | |
| Highlights from SKY ....but on 15:57 - Nov 12 with 504 views | pointofblue |
Watching the full match replay, the other interesting thing is at 3-1 we continued to push and try to create chances. Maybe we were too open, too willing to take a shot and surrender possession? At 3-2, we managed the game much better, looking to keep possession first and foremost. | |
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