| Cheerio Suella 08:38 - Nov 13 with 6115 views | bluelagos |
Reported as sacked by BBC Chris Mason |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:12 - Nov 13 with 1048 views | Herbivore |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:01 - Nov 13 by matteoblue |
Lefties only in the cabinet please!  |
There are no lefties in the Tory party. |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:14 - Nov 13 with 1035 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Cheerio Suella on 08:47 - Nov 13 by thecheek |
Sadly with the way things are she'll probably end up with more power in the long run |
It depends. Is Home Secretary of a party with a 70+ majority better than leading a party who could have as few as 150 MPs, could be out of power for 10+ years and will sack you if you don't win the next election?
I completely agree she will pitch herself for the leadership post-election though. |  | | |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:15 - Nov 13 with 1026 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:01 - Nov 13 by matteoblue |
Lefties only in the cabinet please! |
There won't be that many actual Lefties in the Cabinet when Labour get in, so you don't need to worry yourself yet. |  | | |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:17 - Nov 13 with 1018 views | Herbivore |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:09 - Nov 13 by davblue |
i don't understand (this is showing my lack of understanding) how any one in their right mind would think she's going to lead a party to victory?
The Tories, might as well have Tommy Robinson leading the party. |
She won't, but the Tories (and their mates in the media) are in denial about how deeply unpopular and out of step with the country they are. They are just seeking to appeal to the Tory base but the Tory base is no longer big enough to come close to winning a GE. The worry is that they still have some major news outlets backing them unreservedly and they will do all they can to push the country rightward towards someone like Braverman, but their influence is not quite what it once was and almost nobody takes papers like the Mail, Sun, and Telegraph seriously anymore, at least nobody the Tories would need to win over in order to be electable again. | |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:18 - Nov 13 with 1015 views | Whos_blue |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:08 - Nov 13 by Pinewoodblue |
David Cameron is in the building, didn’t see that coming. |
Big curve ball and if appointed is a damning indictment on the percieved quality of the rest of the cabinet.
Cameron left politics 7 years ago but is seen (if appointed) as a safer pair of hands than the other imposters. |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:21 - Nov 13 with 997 views | Herbivore |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:18 - Nov 13 by Whos_blue |
Big curve ball and if appointed is a damning indictment on the percieved quality of the rest of the cabinet.
Cameron left politics 7 years ago but is seen (if appointed) as a safer pair of hands than the other imposters. |
It's a crazy move but does smack of Sunak trying to present himself as a grown up who surrounds himself with grown ups. It'll entrench divides within the Tory party (yay!) by drawing some even clearer lines between the more moderate Tories and the rabid right wingers, so expect more in fighting in lieu of government until they finally decide to give us the chance to boot them out so they can carry on their ridiculous civil war in opposition. | |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:25 - Nov 13 with 973 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:18 - Nov 13 by Whos_blue |
Big curve ball and if appointed is a damning indictment on the percieved quality of the rest of the cabinet.
Cameron left politics 7 years ago but is seen (if appointed) as a safer pair of hands than the other imposters. |
For all Cameron's faults (of which there are a very long list), he would make an excellent Foreign Secretary now Cleverley has gone to clear up Suella's racist mess. | | | |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:25 - Nov 13 with 963 views | DJR |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:21 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
It's a crazy move but does smack of Sunak trying to present himself as a grown up who surrounds himself with grown ups. It'll entrench divides within the Tory party (yay!) by drawing some even clearer lines between the more moderate Tories and the rabid right wingers, so expect more in fighting in lieu of government until they finally decide to give us the chance to boot them out so they can carry on their ridiculous civil war in opposition. |
Cameron, moderate? Maybe socially, but it is he who trademarked austerity. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:26]
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:26 - Nov 13 with 952 views | Whos_blue |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:21 - Nov 13 by Herbivore |
It's a crazy move but does smack of Sunak trying to present himself as a grown up who surrounds himself with grown ups. It'll entrench divides within the Tory party (yay!) by drawing some even clearer lines between the more moderate Tories and the rabid right wingers, so expect more in fighting in lieu of government until they finally decide to give us the chance to boot them out so they can carry on their ridiculous civil war in opposition. |
First (short) statement from Braverman ends with "I will have more to say in due course".
This is gonna be fun! | |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:29 - Nov 13 with 924 views | StokieBlue |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:01 - Nov 13 by matteoblue |
Lefties only in the cabinet please! |
Or alternatively just people who don't routinely use horrible language to sow division and stir up trouble and violence?
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:30 - Nov 13 with 925 views | Herbivore |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:25 - Nov 13 by DJR |
Cameron, moderate? Maybe socially, but it is he who trademarked austerity. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:26]
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He is a moderate by the standards of the current Tory party. | |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:33 - Nov 13 with 901 views | StokieBlue |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:25 - Nov 13 by ElderGrizzly |
For all Cameron's faults (of which there are a very long list), he would make an excellent Foreign Secretary now Cleverley has gone to clear up Suella's racist mess. |
He made some big mistakes (austerity, Brexit) but he's lightyears ahead of the current crop as an actual politian.
A huge move if Sunak has gone for this - will cause huge infighting one might imagine.
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:36 - Nov 13 with 880 views | Guthrum |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:26 - Nov 13 by Whos_blue |
First (short) statement from Braverman ends with "I will have more to say in due course".
This is gonna be fun! |
Tho I doubt most of the the press will be hanging on her every word. Probably just become another talking head on GB News. |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:36 - Nov 13 with 870 views | Keno |
| Cheerio Suella on 08:52 - Nov 13 by DanTheMan |
I could see Badenoch getting it. |
That's enough of your wet dreams
What about Sunak giving it to Priti Patel? |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:38 - Nov 13 with 850 views | DJR |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:33 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue |
He made some big mistakes (austerity, Brexit) but he's lightyears ahead of the current crop as an actual politian.
A huge move if Sunak has gone for this - will cause huge infighting one might imagine.
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Nothing did more damage to the fabric of the country than austerity but he was a charmer and got away with it.
And none of the reforms his government introduced stood the test of time, the privatisation of the probation service being an example. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:43]
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:41 - Nov 13 with 815 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:38 - Nov 13 by DJR |
Nothing did more damage to the fabric of the country than austerity but he was a charmer and got away with it.
And none of the reforms his government introduced stood the test of time, the privatisation of the probation service being an example. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:43]
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Always seen Cameron as a part time politician. Not sure a part time Foreign Secretary is a good idea. |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:42 - Nov 13 with 817 views | bluelagos |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:33 - Nov 13 by StokieBlue |
He made some big mistakes (austerity, Brexit) but he's lightyears ahead of the current crop as an actual politian.
A huge move if Sunak has gone for this - will cause huge infighting one might imagine.
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Post brexit the tories shifted to the right with many moderates kicked out of the party by Johnson.
The appointment of Cameron, a remainer and socially liberal politician (he legislated gay marriage against the wishes of his party who failed to support it) is a huge statement.
Expect the Suella fan boys to go into meltdown over this. Civil war now or wait til the election...time will tell but I can't see a leadership challenge now. Heavy defeat and the gloves are off... | |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:46 - Nov 13 with 771 views | DJR |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:41 - Nov 13 by Pinewoodblue |
Always seen Cameron as a part time politician. Not sure a part time Foreign Secretary is a good idea. |
He might have been bright, but he was a lazy so and so, and never across the detail. I also felt he lacked common sense.
A friend of mine attended a reception at No. 10 which he was supposed to be hosting, only to be told that he was off playing tennis. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:47]
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:47 - Nov 13 with 760 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:08 - Nov 13 by Pinewoodblue |
David Cameron is in the building, didn’t see that coming. |
You know that a soap opera is in trouble when they bring back characters from earlier seasons. |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:49 - Nov 13 with 744 views | Guthrum |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:38 - Nov 13 by DJR |
Nothing did more damage to the fabric of the country than austerity but he was a charmer and got away with it.
And none of the reforms his government introduced stood the test of time, the privatisation of the probation service being an example. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:43]
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Arguably, I'd say that Thatcherite small government/tax cut mania has been more damaging, with Austerity merely a symptom of that (slash services rather than boost them to get through a crisis). | |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:50 - Nov 13 with 723 views | Mookamoo |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:41 - Nov 13 by Pinewoodblue |
Always seen Cameron as a part time politician. Not sure a part time Foreign Secretary is a good idea. |
Thats probably the idea. Get someone in who can be the figurehead and No10 just runs their own agenda.
What Sunak doesn't need is another Foreign Secretary with their own headlines between now and October. Clever political move to project a unified government. (Yes I do know it won't work) |  | | |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:54 - Nov 13 with 697 views | baxterbasics |
Cameron may be a moderate, but if he’s going to foreign office there’s a limit to how much controversy he can cause from there. |  |
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| Cheerio Suella on 09:59 - Nov 13 with 662 views | Blueschev |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:38 - Nov 13 by DJR |
Nothing did more damage to the fabric of the country than austerity but he was a charmer and got away with it.
And none of the reforms his government introduced stood the test of time, the privatisation of the probation service being an example. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 9:43]
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He has been the worst prime minister this century. Every public service in this country is far worse than it was in 2010, as a direct result of his government's actions. Not sounding like a total buffoon does not make him a moderate. He has a lot to answer for. |  | | |
| Cheerio Suella on 10:00 - Nov 13 with 653 views | DJR |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:49 - Nov 13 by Guthrum |
Arguably, I'd say that Thatcherite small government/tax cut mania has been more damaging, with Austerity merely a symptom of that (slash services rather than boost them to get through a crisis). |
I worked in Whitehall under both Mrs Thatcher and John Major and there just wasn't the nastiness, financial meanness or disdain towards civil servants that characterised the coalition government from the start. And there were nothing like the real terms cuts to the NHS that took place from 2010. | | | |
| Cheerio Suella on 10:01 - Nov 13 with 648 views | bluelagos |
| Cheerio Suella on 09:54 - Nov 13 by baxterbasics |
Cameron may be a moderate, but if he’s going to foreign office there’s a limit to how much controversy he can cause from there. |
Is more about the message Sunak has sent to the far right in his party. He has sacked their torch carrier and in the reshuffle brings in someone from the party centre.
Sunak has stood up to them and given them two fingers. The parliamentary party doesn't support Braverman although she will have more support in the membership.
But the PM has shown his colours and it isnt to Braverman and her cabal. | |
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