| If it walks like a duck etc… 21:01 - Feb 23 with 18330 views | ElderGrizzly |
Utterly repugnant and should have the whip withdrawn immediately
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:34 - Feb 25 with 2955 views | redrickstuhaart |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:32 - Feb 25 by DJR |
Given Braverman has not had the whip withdrawn and Oliver Dowden defended her this morning, it appears that the following language (from her article in the Telegraph) is perfectly acceptable.
"We need to wake up to what we are sleep-walking into: a ghettoised society where free expression and British values are diluted. Where sharia law, the Islamist mob and anti-Semites take over communities. The truth is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in charge now."
If that's not Islamophobia, by tarring an entire community, I don't know what is. But maybe it's OK in today's Tory party to tar an entire community but not to tar an individual (Sadiq Khan). |
Indeed. And just imagine if you said that about certain other groups...
As if we needed further illustration, Dowden has confirmed that if the bigotted former party deputy chairman had offered a perfunctory apology, all would be well. [Post edited 25 Feb 2024 10:36]
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:36 - Feb 25 with 2932 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:32 - Feb 25 by DJR |
Given Braverman has not had the whip withdrawn and Oliver Dowden defended her this morning, it appears that the following language (from her article in the Telegraph) is perfectly acceptable.
"We need to wake up to what we are sleep-walking into: a ghettoised society where free expression and British values are diluted. Where sharia law, the Islamist mob and anti-Semites take over communities. The truth is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in charge now."
If that's not Islamophobia, by tarring an entire community, I don't know what is. But maybe it's OK in today's Tory party to tar an entire community but not to tar an individual (Sadiq Khan). |
Surely it’s time for the EHRC to step in. There is a clear case of institutional Islamophobia to answer in the Tory party. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:37 - Feb 25 with 2921 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:34 - Feb 25 by redrickstuhaart |
Indeed. And just imagine if you said that about certain other groups...
As if we needed further illustration, Dowden has confirmed that if the bigotted former party deputy chairman had offered a perfunctory apology, all would be well. [Post edited 25 Feb 2024 10:36]
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What “certain” other groups? Hindus? Jehovah Witnesses? Jedis? | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 13:36 - Feb 25 with 2831 views | DJR |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:32 - Feb 25 by DJR |
Given Braverman has not had the whip withdrawn and Oliver Dowden defended her this morning, it appears that the following language (from her article in the Telegraph) is perfectly acceptable.
"We need to wake up to what we are sleep-walking into: a ghettoised society where free expression and British values are diluted. Where sharia law, the Islamist mob and anti-Semites take over communities. The truth is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in charge now."
If that's not Islamophobia, by tarring an entire community, I don't know what is. But maybe it's OK in today's Tory party to tar an entire community but not to tar an individual (Sadiq Khan). |
Torsten Bell in today's Observer disputes Braverman's claim of a ghettoised society.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/25/sorry-suella-braverman-the
His article refers to the following research, after the 2021 census.
https://rgs-ibg.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/geoj.12507
This is the abstract.
"This paper provides a rapid response analysis of the changing geographies of ethnic diversity and segregation in England and Wales using Census data covering the last 30 years (1991, 2001, 2011 and 2021), a period of significant social, economic and political change. Presenting the first detailed analysis of 2021 Census small area ethnic group data, we find that the growth of ethnic diversity at the national level is mirrored across residential neighbourhoods. Increasing numbers of neighbourhoods are home to a substantial mix of people from different ethnic groups, and this growing neighbourhood ethnic diversity has been spatially diffusing across all regions of England and Wales. We argue that to understand the ethnic mosaic across England and Wales, it is more illuminating to consider mix than majority: places labelled as ‘minority-majority’ are, in fact, ethnically diverse spaces, home to sizable proportions of people from many ethnic groups. Increasing ethnic diversity is matched by decreasing residential segregation, for all ethnic groups—majority and minority." [Post edited 25 Feb 2024 13:39]
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 15:10 - Feb 26 with 2684 views | DJR |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:32 - Feb 25 by DJR |
Given Braverman has not had the whip withdrawn and Oliver Dowden defended her this morning, it appears that the following language (from her article in the Telegraph) is perfectly acceptable.
"We need to wake up to what we are sleep-walking into: a ghettoised society where free expression and British values are diluted. Where sharia law, the Islamist mob and anti-Semites take over communities. The truth is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in charge now."
If that's not Islamophobia, by tarring an entire community, I don't know what is. But maybe it's OK in today's Tory party to tar an entire community but not to tar an individual (Sadiq Khan). |
Sunak's comments today indicate that it is OK to tar an entire community, but not an individual member of it.
Asked about Braverman’s article, Sunak told broadcasters in Yorkshire today:
"I think that those comments were not about an individual in particular." | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:01 - Feb 26 with 2634 views | leitrimblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 15:10 - Feb 26 by DJR |
Sunak's comments today indicate that it is OK to tar an entire community, but not an individual member of it.
Asked about Braverman’s article, Sunak told broadcasters in Yorkshire today:
"I think that those comments were not about an individual in particular." |
'When you are right you should never apologise' Lee Anderson earlier this afternoon...
Seems racism and bigotry still completely OK when aimed at certain minority groups... |  | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:41 - Feb 26 with 2583 views | NthQldITFC |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 08:23 - Feb 24 by DJR |
I suppose in the olden days one might have watched a TV programme said "I hate Bob Monkhouse" not meaning it literally and not intending the comment to go beyond the living room
Nowadays people express such views openly on social media, and go much further presumably encouraged by social media echo chambers.
It is very depressing.
Why can't people just agree to disagree? [Post edited 24 Feb 2024 8:25]
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Well just for you, here's a [not at all faked, and not too long] short video clip of Bob Monkhouse murdering some guinea-pigs, and here are a long list of comments from other right-minded people like you who also rightly hate Bob Monkhouse. You can 'like' their comments and they can 'like' yours, and what's more one of them has posted a [possibly not necessarily real] short video of Jimmy Tarbuck screwing an antelope on the moon, which is made, as all you right-minded people know, of left-wing beeswax.
I only look at this stuff all the time as sometimes it's funny, but it doesn't half give me a sore neck and a foggy mind. Good job the world around me is in such safe hands. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 17:24 - Feb 26 with 2512 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:32 - Feb 25 by DJR |
Given Braverman has not had the whip withdrawn and Oliver Dowden defended her this morning, it appears that the following language (from her article in the Telegraph) is perfectly acceptable.
"We need to wake up to what we are sleep-walking into: a ghettoised society where free expression and British values are diluted. Where sharia law, the Islamist mob and anti-Semites take over communities. The truth is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in charge now."
If that's not Islamophobia, by tarring an entire community, I don't know what is. But maybe it's OK in today's Tory party to tar an entire community but not to tar an individual (Sadiq Khan). |
Sunak knew exactly what Lee Anderson was when he was suspended by the Labour Party and the Conservative Party welcomed him with open arms. Sunak then chose to make him Deputy PM. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 23:24 - Feb 26 with 2441 views | Whos_blue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:01 - Feb 26 by leitrimblue |
'When you are right you should never apologise' Lee Anderson earlier this afternoon...
Seems racism and bigotry still completely OK when aimed at certain minority groups... |
And has subsequently said he will not apologise to Kahn as long as he has a breath in his body.
I find it incredible that all Anderson's comms are being managed by GB news.
I can't see a way back for him but he is adamant he'll stand in the next election.
I can see him and one or two others jumping ship to Reform.
What a state of affairs. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:41 - Feb 27 with 2338 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 23:24 - Feb 26 by Whos_blue |
And has subsequently said he will not apologise to Kahn as long as he has a breath in his body.
I find it incredible that all Anderson's comms are being managed by GB news.
I can't see a way back for him but he is adamant he'll stand in the next election.
I can see him and one or two others jumping ship to Reform.
What a state of affairs. |
Well done to Nick Ferrari for cutting this idiot off, but why is it so hard for the minister to call out Anderson’s words for what they are? Islamophobic.
This is like Deja vu for me. Weasel words and pathetic excuses. Grow some balls Sunak and use what little time you have to stand up to these racist scumbags. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:43 - Feb 27 with 2318 views | DanTheMan |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:41 - Feb 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Well done to Nick Ferrari for cutting this idiot off, but why is it so hard for the minister to call out Anderson’s words for what they are? Islamophobic.
This is like Deja vu for me. Weasel words and pathetic excuses. Grow some balls Sunak and use what little time you have to stand up to these racist scumbags. |
That was painful. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:55 - Feb 27 with 2261 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:43 - Feb 27 by DanTheMan |
That was painful. |
Excruciating. The Election is lost. Sunak will be gone by the end of the year. If he had any decency he could at least be remembered more favourably by history for making the positive changes to the Conservative Party that other leaders have been too scared or hamstrung to make. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:15 - Feb 27 with 2235 views | giant_stow |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:43 - Feb 27 by DanTheMan |
That was painful. |
Self dignity out the window to protect a racist and a racist party. Cheap. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:25 - Feb 27 with 2210 views | leitrimblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 23:24 - Feb 26 by Whos_blue |
And has subsequently said he will not apologise to Kahn as long as he has a breath in his body.
I find it incredible that all Anderson's comms are being managed by GB news.
I can't see a way back for him but he is adamant he'll stand in the next election.
I can see him and one or two others jumping ship to Reform.
What a state of affairs. |
Not sure he as any need to jump ship to Reform. Think he's already found the perfect party for a pathetic racist weasel | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:26 - Feb 27 with 2205 views | DJR |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:43 - Feb 27 by DanTheMan |
That was painful. |
Sadly, Rehman Chishti (a Muslim Tory MP on Sky last night) lambasted the approach by the Tory party (and Sunak in particular|) in relation to Muslims for about 10 minutes but at the end of his interview couldn't bring himself to describe Anderson's comments as Islamophobic.
I can only assume they've all been instructed by the Whips to take this line. [Post edited 27 Feb 2024 10:34]
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:35 - Feb 27 with 2170 views | leitrimblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:26 - Feb 27 by DJR |
Sadly, Rehman Chishti (a Muslim Tory MP on Sky last night) lambasted the approach by the Tory party (and Sunak in particular|) in relation to Muslims for about 10 minutes but at the end of his interview couldn't bring himself to describe Anderson's comments as Islamophobic.
I can only assume they've all been instructed by the Whips to take this line. [Post edited 27 Feb 2024 10:34]
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Of course they have been instructed to parrot out these lines.
The other option is to admit that 50P Lee's racist views are shared by many grassroots Tories.
That Bravermans words were also racist and that there as been a racism/Islamophobia problem in the party for years.
There just gonna keep denying it and spreading their hatred | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:15 - Feb 27 with 2115 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:35 - Feb 27 by leitrimblue |
Of course they have been instructed to parrot out these lines.
The other option is to admit that 50P Lee's racist views are shared by many grassroots Tories.
That Bravermans words were also racist and that there as been a racism/Islamophobia problem in the party for years.
There just gonna keep denying it and spreading their hatred |
If you were silent during the antisemitism crisis in the Labour Party, or even worse you accused Jews or people with Jewish family members of editorialising racism against them for nefarious purposes, but are vocal about Tory Islamophobia, then you either don’t care about racism against Jews, don’t really care about Islamophobia but see it as a stick to beat the Tories with, or both. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:02 - Feb 27 with 2016 views | N2_Blue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:13 - Feb 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If Sadiq Khan were Jewish instead of Muslim and the same comment was made about Jews controlling the capital/country, it would very rightly be seen as antisemitic. Why is it perfectly fine for the Conservative leadership to accept this racism instead? |
Because the Tory party IS a racist party and only call out anti-semitism because it means they can have a go at the lot on the other side.
It's all deeply depressing |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:27 - Feb 27 with 1978 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 17:24 - Feb 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Sunak knew exactly what Lee Anderson was when he was suspended by the Labour Party and the Conservative Party welcomed him with open arms. Sunak then chose to make him Deputy PM. |
I would love to know what it is that CageyBlue disagrees with in this comment.
Sunak knew what Lee Anderson was.
That is clear to all because it was well known why he was suspended by the Labour Party.
Anderson was welcomed by the Conservative Party.
Sunak chose to make him Deputy PM.
Which one of those facts is there to disagree with Cagey? | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:27 - Feb 27 with 1979 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:02 - Feb 27 by N2_Blue |
Because the Tory party IS a racist party and only call out anti-semitism because it means they can have a go at the lot on the other side.
It's all deeply depressing |
And did you call out antisemitism when it was endemic in the Labour party and they were found guilty of discrimination against their Jewish members by the EHRC?
Genuine question. Because if not, then aren't you equally guilty of what you are condemning the Tories for doing? | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:28 - Feb 27 with 1975 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Apparently, according to the telegraph, 11 000 people have signed a petition demanding Anderson gets his whip restored. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:49 - Feb 27 with 1931 views | pointofblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:27 - Feb 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I would love to know what it is that CageyBlue disagrees with in this comment.
Sunak knew what Lee Anderson was.
That is clear to all because it was well known why he was suspended by the Labour Party.
Anderson was welcomed by the Conservative Party.
Sunak chose to make him Deputy PM.
Which one of those facts is there to disagree with Cagey? |
It's being pedantic, but wasn't he chairman rather than deputy PM? | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:56 - Feb 27 with 1919 views | leitrimblue |
It's quite interesting that you have all these white middle class life long Torie supporting men that suddenly declared themselves to be the spokespersons for anti racism even though they had never experienced racism in their life.
These same people became experts at pointing out antisemitism when ever it reared its ugly head ( and even sometimes when it didn't )  . But completely failed to see the rampant Islamophobia in their own party.
These so called anti racists also fail to see apartheid in the far right apartheid state of Isreal.
( obviously apartheid as never been something Tories have been good at condemning, having stood next to young Conservatives wearing their hang Nelson Mandela t shirts in the 80,s)
There excellent at spotting antisemitism but fail to see Islamophobia, now why would that be?
Antisemitism, Islamophobia, abuse or harassment of any kind is not acceptable ( why some people would find this FULL CAPITAL LETTER offensive I don't understand)
Is it possible that they were just using antisemitism as a stick to beat Labour with and have very little genuine concern about racism?
You would have to wonder.. | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 17:00 - Feb 27 with 1900 views | Whos_blue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:27 - Feb 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I would love to know what it is that CageyBlue disagrees with in this comment.
Sunak knew what Lee Anderson was.
That is clear to all because it was well known why he was suspended by the Labour Party.
Anderson was welcomed by the Conservative Party.
Sunak chose to make him Deputy PM.
Which one of those facts is there to disagree with Cagey? |
I got a downie too.
Maybe Cagey is th new daveu? | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 17:03 - Feb 27 with 1893 views | leitrimblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 17:00 - Feb 27 by Whos_blue |
I got a downie too.
Maybe Cagey is th new daveu? |
I got 2 from him | | | |
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