| If it walks like a duck etc… 21:01 - Feb 23 with 18328 views | ElderGrizzly |
Utterly repugnant and should have the whip withdrawn immediately
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:01 - Feb 24 with 2597 views | Herbivore |
Stark raving madness. Seems now demonising immigrants is getting less and less traction, they've decided to go back to hating on Muslims. The hard left is the constant bogeyman, despite the hard left never having had even a sniff of political power or social capital in this country. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:37 - Feb 24 with 2553 views | GlasgowBlue |
Never mind withdrawing the whip. There is enough evidence in that clip to expel him from the party immediately. it's blatant racism on Anderson's part. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:39 - Feb 24 with 2538 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:59 - Feb 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
The scary thing is reading Daily Mail comments, and seeing a fair number that thinks this incumbent government is too LIBERAL! |
When they lose the election, there is a school of thought in the party that says they must go further to the right. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:41 - Feb 24 with 2543 views | MattinLondon |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:39 - Feb 24 by GlasgowBlue |
When they lose the election, there is a school of thought in the party that says they must go further to the right. |
Do you think that there’s enough appetite in both the Parliamentary party (as well as the grass roots) for that to happen? Same with Liz Truss as well? |  | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:49 - Feb 24 with 2506 views | pointofblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:41 - Feb 24 by MattinLondon |
Do you think that there’s enough appetite in both the Parliamentary party (as well as the grass roots) for that to happen? Same with Liz Truss as well? |
It sort of happened after Hague in 2001 - Howard came in and the party lurched to the right, albeit not to the extent that the likes of Braverman and Anderson are embracing now. And the press didn't seem as openly supportive of it. The Sun, for example, continued backing Blair throughout that period.
The issue is Sunak has no real power or control. He is now a sacrificial lamb, a target to take the blame and fallout when they lose the next election. Which MPs remain will be dependent on the public, but I think there is a wish for a greater move to the right from the grassroots - they chose Truss after all.
The Conservative Party is dangerous in it's current guise. The moderates are being overwhelmed, either ignored, silenced or fear speaking out. Things will get worse before they get better and the only hope is the what I see as the inevitable move further to the right is rejected by the majority of the public. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:59 - Feb 24 with 2453 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 11:41 - Feb 24 by MattinLondon |
Do you think that there’s enough appetite in both the Parliamentary party (as well as the grass roots) for that to happen? Same with Liz Truss as well? |
The grass roots of all parties are always more extreme than the elected MP's, so yes. Buy shares in Priti Patel.
The UK 2 main political party system is broken and not fit for purpose. It's becoming increasingly harder for the "broad church" idea to work. There are now too many factions in both of the main parties and the only reason it survives is because of the outdated FPTP system of electing an MP.
If we had PR then. you would find the hard left breaking off from the Labour party to form something akin to Jean-Luc Mélenchon's party in France,the more traditional Labour MP's would form an old style Labour Wilson/Kinnock Labour party, the right of the Labour party would form a party with many of the one nation Tories and centre right Liberals, and what is left of the tories would merge with whatever mob Farage is leading at the time. [Post edited 24 Feb 2024 14:22]
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 12:11 - Feb 24 with 2439 views | gtsb1966 |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 22:36 - Feb 23 by J2BLUE |
WHAT THE F### DID YOU SAY YOU TOTAL ####?!? WHO THE F### DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? |
Hahaha...2 eggnogs and you've gone all Danny Dyer  |  | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 12:30 - Feb 24 with 2373 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 12:11 - Feb 24 by gtsb1966 |
Hahaha...2 eggnogs and you've gone all Danny Dyer |
I read it as a joke reply to your previous message, and especially the last paragraph about aggressive keyboard warriors on here. | | | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 12:34 - Feb 24 with 2361 views | gtsb1966 |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 12:30 - Feb 24 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I read it as a joke reply to your previous message, and especially the last paragraph about aggressive keyboard warriors on here. |
You're probably right as not a usual Mr J response. I need to lay off the sherry. | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:02 - Feb 24 with 2277 views | Swansea_Blue |
Urgh, rancid stuff by the looks of it (I can only see the start). Upset about an initiative to highlight racism after the brutal killing of a black man on top of open Islamophobia. What vile people some of this lot are. It’s no great surprise to see it’s Moore mind and it certainly seems to be coordinated if they’ve got their client journalists pushing the same narrative. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:13 - Feb 24 with 2265 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
If Sadiq Khan were Jewish instead of Muslim and the same comment was made about Jews controlling the capital/country, it would very rightly be seen as antisemitic. Why is it perfectly fine for the Conservative leadership to accept this racism instead? |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:32 - Feb 24 with 2231 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:13 - Feb 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If Sadiq Khan were Jewish instead of Muslim and the same comment was made about Jews controlling the capital/country, it would very rightly be seen as antisemitic. Why is it perfectly fine for the Conservative leadership to accept this racism instead? |
It's not ok. And if Anderson survives the weekend then the Tories are even more fcuked than I thought. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:54 - Feb 24 with 2224 views | leitrimblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:13 - Feb 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
If Sadiq Khan were Jewish instead of Muslim and the same comment was made about Jews controlling the capital/country, it would very rightly be seen as antisemitic. Why is it perfectly fine for the Conservative leadership to accept this racism instead? |
I'm sure it's not fine and every member of the Conservative party will demanding he's instantly sacked and that there is a full enquiry into islamophbia in the party..  |  | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:42 - Feb 24 with 2164 views | Swansea_Blue |
Doesn't go far enough imo. There should be room in the Equality Act and Malicious Communications Act to charge him (and there's probably a few other laws he's flirting with). | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 21:32 - Feb 24 with 2092 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 14:54 - Feb 24 by leitrimblue |
I'm sure it's not fine and every member of the Conservative party will demanding he's instantly sacked and that there is a full enquiry into islamophbia in the party.. |
STOP WEAPONIZING ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!! IT'S ALL SMEARS. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 21:47 - Feb 24 with 2077 views | J2BLUE |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 12:30 - Feb 24 by ArnoldMoorhen |
I read it as a joke reply to your previous message, and especially the last paragraph about aggressive keyboard warriors on here. |
Can confirm it was a crap joke! |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 21:58 - Feb 24 with 2068 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 21:32 - Feb 24 by GlasgowBlue |
STOP WEAPONIZING ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!! IT'S ALL SMEARS. |
I can't wait for Guido and others to begin trawling through every social media comment and like of every Tory party member and for the relentless follow up by national media! |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:26 - Feb 25 with 1926 views | Hanser |
This racism and bigotry is doubly harmful. It distracts from objective debate about the current Mayor's performance. London needs a better Mayor. Personally, I wouldn't want a Conservative one. Someone of Andy Burnham's calibre? |  | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:38 - Feb 25 with 1893 views | Plums |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 16:42 - Feb 24 by Swansea_Blue |
Doesn't go far enough imo. There should be room in the Equality Act and Malicious Communications Act to charge him (and there's probably a few other laws he's flirting with). |
He'll inevitably be painted as some sort of victim in the coming days. Poor Lee is being oppressed.
This is on Sunak. He gave yet another of the loony right Tory MPs a platform to appease the nutters and he's reaping what he's sowed.
The election can't come quick enough. |  |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:00 - Feb 25 with 1854 views | redrickstuhaart |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 09:38 - Feb 25 by Plums |
He'll inevitably be painted as some sort of victim in the coming days. Poor Lee is being oppressed.
This is on Sunak. He gave yet another of the loony right Tory MPs a platform to appease the nutters and he's reaping what he's sowed.
The election can't come quick enough. |
We have the troubling sight this morning, of the Deputy PM refusing to acknowledge that these were Islamophobic comments.
Once again, if we draw the comparison with (for instance) the comments of the labour guy in Rochdale, the obvious truth about the bigotry central to the conservative party is utterly clear.
And don't come out saying we must avoid division and hatred Rishi. You have stoked it, and installed people who have stoked it, for electoral gain. | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:15 - Feb 25 with 1835 views | leitrimblue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 21:58 - Feb 24 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I can't wait for Guido and others to begin trawling through every social media comment and like of every Tory party member and for the relentless follow up by national media! |
Think I hear the sound of the masks of thousands of middle class white men slipping down their faces | | | |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:17 - Feb 25 with 1814 views | DJR |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:40 - Feb 24 by oldbeardy |
I was responsible for one of the Whitehall buildings during the protest and therefore saw first hand, including via live feeds from the security cameras around the vicinity, some of what went on. I certainly don't condone any violence on the part of the police but the behaviour of a significant minority of protesters was disgraceful and most definitely required urgent and sustained intervention from the police to prevent even more serious disorder. |
I was working in Whitehall that day, and saw some of the action from King Charles Street between the Treasury and FCO but clearly I didn't see everything.
What I did see, however, was students behind barriers not really doing much charged by the police with batons. And in any event, the events of that day were to my mind nothing like the poll tax riots of 1990 which took place when I also worked in Whitehall. So to describe them thus is to me just wrong.
“It represented a multidimensional threat which they had never seen before and have not seen since.”
And don't forget that the police admitted the student struck was entirely innocent. [Post edited 25 Feb 2024 10:27]
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:30 - Feb 25 with 1785 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:15 - Feb 25 by leitrimblue |
Think I hear the sound of the masks of thousands of middle class white men slipping down their faces |
WHY R U EXCUSING DA VIOLENT ISLAMISTS BY WEAPONISING ISLAMOPHOBIA. U IS SUPPORTING JENASIDE. | |
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| If it walks like a duck etc… on 10:32 - Feb 25 with 1775 views | DJR |
Given Braverman has not had the whip withdrawn and Oliver Dowden defended her this morning, it appears that the following language (from her article in the Telegraph) is perfectly acceptable.
"We need to wake up to what we are sleep-walking into: a ghettoised society where free expression and British values are diluted. Where sharia law, the Islamist mob and anti-Semites take over communities. The truth is that the Islamists, the extremists and the anti-Semites are in charge now."
If that's not Islamophobia, by tarring an entire community, I don't know what is. But maybe it's OK in today's Tory party to tar an entire community but not to tar an individual (Sadiq Khan). | | | |
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