| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:10 - May 18 with 2366 views | factual_blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:00 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
It's clearly unhelpful for people to use it, particularly if it's in order to cause a row. |
Is that a yes or a no? |  |
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| Why don't you just drop it....? on 20:12 - May 18 with 2362 views | Bloots |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:10 - May 18 by factual_blue |
Is that a yes or a no? |
....it's Saturday night and I'm quite sure Phil has better things to do than deal with people trying to start arguments with strangers on the internet.
Give it a rest FFS.
(although you won't see this of course, because you reckon you've got me on ignore) |  |
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| Why don't you just drop it....? on 20:12 - May 18 with 2360 views | PhilTWTD |
| Why don't you just drop it....? on 20:12 - May 18 by Bloots |
....it's Saturday night and I'm quite sure Phil has better things to do than deal with people trying to start arguments with strangers on the internet.
Give it a rest FFS.
(although you won't see this of course, because you reckon you've got me on ignore) |
What Bloots said. |  | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:26 - May 18 with 2318 views | factual_blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:35 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
Probably because I missed them. I usually remove everything following a post in the thread but I may have missed others. |
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/584394/sub-human-scum!!/#0
I had the misfortune to see this when I wasn't logged in. [Post edited 18 May 2024 20:30]
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:53 - May 18 with 2243 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:28 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue |
Indeed. If Banksy wanted a genuine example of a "barbaric state" he could perhaps look at Iran and compare how they treat their protesters compared to how Israel treats theirs. |
Yes they are barbaric too. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 21:47 - May 18 with 2132 views | footers |
Coincidentally, Mike Tyson is fighting Jake Paul soon.
Unfortunately he'll lay off.
Shame the IDF can't say the same. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 22:46 - May 18 with 2015 views | NthQldITFC |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:37 - May 18 by redrickstuhaart |
The problem is that one of those sides who are as "bad as one another" is a supposedly civilised democratic state and ally of the west, with firepower and resources which overwhelmingly greater than the other. |
I think that veneer has gone from paper thin to a pile of dust on the floor over the last few months. Civilised, my arse. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 22:58 - May 18 with 1989 views | Bigalhunter |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 22:46 - May 18 by NthQldITFC |
I think that veneer has gone from paper thin to a pile of dust on the floor over the last few months. Civilised, my arse. |
Utterly staggering that some still feel compelled to even try and defend it. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 23:04 - May 18 with 1965 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 22:58 - May 18 by Bigalhunter |
Utterly staggering that some still feel compelled to even try and defend it. |
Ah but you see some are "genuinely barbaric" whereas others......? | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 23:22 - May 18 with 1941 views | Bigalhunter |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 23:04 - May 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Ah but you see some are "genuinely barbaric" whereas others......? |
I guess it comes down to how desperately you feel the utter compulsion to repeatedly justify Israel’s atrocious and disproportionate response.
I genuinely despair, when the level of desperation resorts to descriptions of ‘ordinary Palestinians’ as supporting ‘sub human ..’ and using Europop song contest votes as approbation for Israel’s conduct.
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 08:40 - May 19 with 1750 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:42 - May 18 by GlasgowBlue |
No it wasn't. It was used by me to describe Hamas terrorists who raped, mutilated and beheaded a 22 year old young woman. Palestinian people are not sub human scum. The people who commited the atrocity against Shani Louk are. The phrase was used last week by Banksy with no issues.
Edit. What would you cll people who kidnap a 22 year old woman from a rave in the desert, gang raper her, break every bone in her body, throw her onto the back of a jeep, parade her broken and lifeless corpse through the streets of Gaza for people to spit at and throw objects at, behead her and transport her to the another part of the country and keep her body for over seven months? [Post edited 18 May 2024 19:54]
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Hi Chelters, I’m genuinely interested in your answer to my edit. No rush. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 08:47 - May 19 with 1749 views | victorywilhappen |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:18 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
Post left up in error, now removed. I really don' think there's any need for people to post obviously inflammatory things on this topic.
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This OP was created for division and point scoring not debate. In my opinion. |  | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 09:45 - May 19 with 1688 views | Ryorry |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:45 - May 18 by Cheltenham_Blue |
That's a lot of reading, and I'm very tired.
Can you do it in a 'what three words' format please? As its Saturday and stuff. |
Netanyahoo’s a Putin
Not intended to be a trivialisation - given the form of PR voting written into the Israeli constitution, the Israeli population doesn’t have as much power as some people assume - a minority of religious fundamentalists hold the rest over a barrel.
The majority of Russians aren’t evil.
The majority of Israelis aren’t evil.
Their leaders are evil.
An intelligent, sane, morally conscious Israeli leader and government would have understood how and why not to go down the path that they have. Always follow the path that your enemy least wants you to. Utterly tragic for all, Palestinians and Israelis alike, that Netanyahu and his fanatical fundamentalist supporters were too obsessed and stupid to realise that. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 10:09 - May 19 with 1640 views | LeoMuff |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 08:40 - May 19 by GlasgowBlue |
Hi Chelters, I’m genuinely interested in your answer to my edit. No rush. |
I think you are correct in your previous description, however the same description applies to the Israeli government and IDF, what you describe and bombing hospitals, schools, and depriving a whole region of medicine, food, water and sanitation, torture of prisoners are no different to the atrocities of October in my mind. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 11:31 - May 19 with 1537 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 10:09 - May 19 by LeoMuff |
I think you are correct in your previous description, however the same description applies to the Israeli government and IDF, what you describe and bombing hospitals, schools, and depriving a whole region of medicine, food, water and sanitation, torture of prisoners are no different to the atrocities of October in my mind. |
I didn't see any objection to Banksy's op or this thread of Banksy's which I replied to.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/584046/5797844/sub-human-scum./#post5797844 [Post edited 19 May 2024 11:53]
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 11:33 - May 19 with 1551 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 08:47 - May 19 by victorywilhappen |
This OP was created for division and point scoring not debate. In my opinion. |
I don't see how the OP is in anyway divisive. Surely no one sees this inhumane treatment of prisoners as anything other then brutal?
I would suggest it's the kinda unifying post we can all get behind |  | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:15 - May 19 with 1475 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:53 - May 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Yes they are barbaric too. |
They treat protesting Palestinians particularly well I'm sure you will agree. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:17 - May 19 with 1469 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:15 - May 19 by BanksterDebtSlave |
They treat protesting Palestinians particularly well I'm sure you will agree. |
Yes Banksy I agree with you but shouldn't your reply be directed towards GB you fool. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:24 - May 19 with 1442 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:17 - May 19 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Yes Banksy I agree with you but shouldn't your reply be directed towards GB you fool. |
This is deep and as blown my mind..
I bumped into Andy in manorhamilton City centre on Friday. Said to say hello | | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:29 - May 19 with 1409 views | footers |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 11:33 - May 19 by leitrimblue |
I don't see how the OP is in anyway divisive. Surely no one sees this inhumane treatment of prisoners as anything other then brutal?
I would suggest it's the kinda unifying post we can all get behind |
I'm sure said poster will feel for the Palestinians and their 'collective memory' of such atrocities. Or is it only Israelis who have a 'collective memory' now? | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:54 - May 19 with 1347 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:29 - May 19 by footers |
I'm sure said poster will feel for the Palestinians and their 'collective memory' of such atrocities. Or is it only Israelis who have a 'collective memory' now? |
Good question, probably need 2 more coffees and another smoke before I can give it real justice. But I'll give it a quick lash.
A friend of mine who writes on nerdy theoretical archaeological subject's such as cultural identity, informed me a while back that collective memory is a major part of how a culture builds its cultural identity. Through a shared agreement on their historical past.
So I guess the Palestinian people may well have collective memory but I imagine it may well fall into insignificance when compared with the collective memory of gods chosen people.. | | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 13:00 - May 19 with 1314 views | Ryorry |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:54 - May 19 by leitrimblue |
Good question, probably need 2 more coffees and another smoke before I can give it real justice. But I'll give it a quick lash.
A friend of mine who writes on nerdy theoretical archaeological subject's such as cultural identity, informed me a while back that collective memory is a major part of how a culture builds its cultural identity. Through a shared agreement on their historical past.
So I guess the Palestinian people may well have collective memory but I imagine it may well fall into insignificance when compared with the collective memory of gods chosen people.. |
I don't think sarcasm is an effective diplomatic tool. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 13:07 - May 19 with 1288 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 13:00 - May 19 by Ryorry |
I don't think sarcasm is an effective diplomatic tool. |
I disagree. I'd say at this moment I only have sarcasm and dark humour left.
Any views on the importance of collective memory/ cultural identity of Palestinian peoples versus that of Isrealis? | | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 13:14 - May 19 with 1268 views | victorywilhappen |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 12:29 - May 19 by footers |
I'm sure said poster will feel for the Palestinians and their 'collective memory' of such atrocities. Or is it only Israelis who have a 'collective memory' now? |
interestingly some of those arguing for recogntion of collective memory of all sides argued it did not exist in October.
But the opinion I posted earlier was that it strikes me that the OP was designed to create another argument. Thank you for adding further evidence that this is correct. | | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 13:17 - May 19 with 1239 views | leitrimblue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 13:14 - May 19 by victorywilhappen |
interestingly some of those arguing for recogntion of collective memory of all sides argued it did not exist in October.
But the opinion I posted earlier was that it strikes me that the OP was designed to create another argument. Thank you for adding further evidence that this is correct. |
Do you not agree that the Isreali states treatment of prisoners is brutal then Victory? | | | |
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