| Another hour ticks past… 14:02 - May 30 with 6238 views | SitfcB |
…AND STILL NOTHING. |  |
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:11 - May 30 with 1276 views | Dyland |
| Another hour ticks past… on 14:48 - May 30 by PhilTWTD |
Not how it is in this instance, is all sorted from a negotiating perspective. |
It's probably stuff like...
'This agreement shall be governed by and construed by the laws of England'.... no, the laws of Arizona... no, the laws of... etc.
And similar stuff. Completely irrelevant to the commercial terms and indeed some of the parties, but vitally important to get it right.
Example above certainly not an issue here but it's a general example of the finer details. E.g. I do a lot of work in IP licensing and rights clearance and the difference between juridictions can fundamentally alter a deal, especially with regard the financials and contractual indemnities. Obvoiusly lawyers need to do due diligence with jurisdiction alterations re governing law, and thus agreements are often held up by days if not weeks with this kind of back and forth, when the commercial terms are agreed and set.
Just an example of lawyers not necessarily being on a gravy train when there are delays, and holdups having fack all to do with agents or other "sales" negotiators. [Post edited 30 May 2024 15:12]
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:14 - May 30 with 1227 views | muhrensleftfoot |
| Another hour ticks past… on 14:57 - May 30 by mrshallisfit |
Still right next door to Trimley St Martin last time I checked. |
Being pedantic I know, but it's next door to Trimley St Mary, not Martin |  | | |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:16 - May 30 with 1198 views | PhilTWTD |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:11 - May 30 by Dyland |
It's probably stuff like...
'This agreement shall be governed by and construed by the laws of England'.... no, the laws of Arizona... no, the laws of... etc.
And similar stuff. Completely irrelevant to the commercial terms and indeed some of the parties, but vitally important to get it right.
Example above certainly not an issue here but it's a general example of the finer details. E.g. I do a lot of work in IP licensing and rights clearance and the difference between juridictions can fundamentally alter a deal, especially with regard the financials and contractual indemnities. Obvoiusly lawyers need to do due diligence with jurisdiction alterations re governing law, and thus agreements are often held up by days if not weeks with this kind of back and forth, when the commercial terms are agreed and set.
Just an example of lawyers not necessarily being on a gravy train when there are delays, and holdups having fack all to do with agents or other "sales" negotiators. [Post edited 30 May 2024 15:12]
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And in my experience lawyers rarely move quickly. |  | | |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:16 - May 30 with 1189 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:10 - May 30 by portmanking |
No, that was just a reaction to the Teamtalk story published earlier that day. No def info on Christian, sadly. |
No, you definitely didn't mention that. You definitely said it like it was done in an OP.
I'm only questioning, because you seem to know a lot about KMc's contract, but your posting history doesn't really back that up.
No biggie. Just wanted to see if your posts on McKenna are worth paying attention to. |  |
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:16 - May 30 with 1185 views | SitfcB |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:10 - May 30 by portmanking |
No, that was just a reaction to the Teamtalk story published earlier that day. No def info on Christian, sadly. |
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| Fair point on 15:19 - May 30 with 1128 views | Dyland |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:16 - May 30 by PhilTWTD |
And in my experience lawyers rarely move quickly. |
In mine, it varies. I work with some of the most commercially savvy and risk tolerant lawyers around, and it makes all the difference.
Worth commenting that working quickly rather than methodically and getting it right 100% is kind of disastrous in the legal world. Of course, doing both is best :) | |
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:20 - May 30 with 1091 views | witchdoctor |
| Another hour ticks past… on 14:57 - May 30 by mrshallisfit |
Still right next door to Trimley St Martin last time I checked. |
St Mary actually.. |  | | |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:22 - May 30 with 1057 views | nodge_blue |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:16 - May 30 by PhilTWTD |
And in my experience lawyers rarely move quickly. |
Most contracts dont seem to take this long. Do you think its more around release clauses? |  |
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:23 - May 30 with 1031 views | Cageyblue |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:16 - May 30 by PhilTWTD |
And in my experience lawyers rarely move quickly. |
Isn't that when you were the defendant though ? |  | | |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:28 - May 30 with 944 views | PhilTWTD |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:10 - May 30 by portmanking |
No, that was just a reaction to the Teamtalk story published earlier that day. No def info on Christian, sadly. |
Don't think it was in question it would get done as we'd want to make some money for him if he moves on this summer. Those announcements and retained list not far off. Would guess that the Kieran situation has delayed those sorts of things being confirmed. | | | |
| Fair point on 15:30 - May 30 with 878 views | Dubtractor |
| Fair point on 15:19 - May 30 by Dyland |
In mine, it varies. I work with some of the most commercially savvy and risk tolerant lawyers around, and it makes all the difference.
Worth commenting that working quickly rather than methodically and getting it right 100% is kind of disastrous in the legal world. Of course, doing both is best :) |
I wish some of the contractors I deal with had risk tolerant lawyers. Would make my life a lot easier! |  |
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:40 - May 30 with 709 views | SitfcB |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:28 - May 30 by PhilTWTD |
Don't think it was in question it would get done as we'd want to make some money for him if he moves on this summer. Those announcements and retained list not far off. Would guess that the Kieran situation has delayed those sorts of things being confirmed. |
A place in ITFC history…
Saturday 18th May 2024 to Thursday 30th May 2024* - ‘The Kieran Situation’
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| Another hour ticks past… on 15:43 - May 30 with 664 views | homer_123 |
| Another hour ticks past… on 14:44 - May 30 by ArnieM |
Brighton apparently giving McK until Wednesday for his decision? ...McKenna's people meeting with Man Utd reports ...Id class those as all outwards signs..wouldn't you ? I dont know . Were not being given any formal information , so its difficult to judge just what is going on. But its taking an age to be formalised.... It just makes me nervous / anxious ...But as usual the spin on here re my posts / comments is Im being "negative". So If being anxious about it is classed as negative then sobeit , Im past caring now tbh .
I know one thing , had I started this thread as the OP has , Id have copious comments about being "negative", or a budgie, , down votes by the bucket load...this OP gets an up vote. LOL [Post edited 30 May 2024 14:47]
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There's no way you'd have posted what Sitters posted.
Why on earth are you so anxious about this. Signing a new contract changes nothing. It won't stop him leaving, it won't mean he's here forever. [Post edited 30 May 2024 15:48]
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| Depends on the industry I guess on 16:12 - May 30 with 509 views | Dyland |
| Fair point on 15:30 - May 30 by Dubtractor |
I wish some of the contractors I deal with had risk tolerant lawyers. Would make my life a lot easier! |
And what's at stake if sh1t goes t1ts up innit :) | |
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| Can you finally relax Arners ol' gal? on 16:13 - May 30 with 497 views | Dyland |
| Another hour ticks past… on 14:12 - May 30 by ArnieM |
but does he want to sign? I hope so , but the outward signs and info re talks with X, Y and R via his agent , whilst expected , also gives the feeling if the right offer came along, he'd be gone. |
I wonder what will have you worrying next? Woolfie being given an extended contract and made club captain maybe ;) | |
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| Fair point on 16:15 - May 30 with 494 views | PhilTWTD |
| Fair point on 15:19 - May 30 by Dyland |
In mine, it varies. I work with some of the most commercially savvy and risk tolerant lawyers around, and it makes all the difference.
Worth commenting that working quickly rather than methodically and getting it right 100% is kind of disastrous in the legal world. Of course, doing both is best :) |
Indeed, right is far better than speedy but wrong. Just thinking that that would account for the delay. Presumably there is some clause which has been sent backwards and forwards between lawyers for the last couple of days until all parties are happy with it. | | | |
| Another hour ticks past… on 16:16 - May 30 with 484 views | PhilTWTD |
| Another hour ticks past… on 15:22 - May 30 by nodge_blue |
Most contracts dont seem to take this long. Do you think its more around release clauses? |
I really don't know, but I think it was more minor than that, wording relating to something rather than anything substantive from the way it was outlined to me. | | | |
| Fair point on 16:17 - May 30 with 474 views | hype313 |
| Fair point on 16:15 - May 30 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, right is far better than speedy but wrong. Just thinking that that would account for the delay. Presumably there is some clause which has been sent backwards and forwards between lawyers for the last couple of days until all parties are happy with it. |
We've all had the unfortunate experience of dealing with legal eagles when buying houses, it's painstakingly long winded. |  |
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