| Memberships & ballots 06:29 - Jun 19 with 15065 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Last season I carried over 14 away points. Despite having a SB membership, all the away games I could get to (due to work/family commitments) were sold out and I found myself continually behind the curve of not quite having enough points to be able to get tickets. I know there are many like me, who always found the away games sold out just ahead of them. In the end, I only made it to one away League game despite trying to get tickets for loads more.
If the club wants to sell SB memberships, this season it just isn't a viable option for people like me - every match will go to those who were in the higher points bubbles. As most teams in the Prem only allocate 3,000 tickets, that means that if you are not in the 3,000 or so (maybe 4,000) fans with the highest points carried over form 23/24, there is simply no point in buying a SB membership. Unless that is, there is a ballot introduced.
I have no problem at all with the most loyal fans continuing to get the first 2,000 or so tickets. But thousands of fans caught in the void where they don't quite have enough points, and can't get any more points, and will be unable to get to any away games at all. Unless a portion of the tickets, maybe 500-1,000, are made available via a ballot to the other SB members.
If there is a ballot for some tickets at each game, then it becomes worthwhile purchasing SB memberships again. If they don't, there is no point for anyone who doesn't fall into the top 4,000 of SB points holders (guessing this is 20+ points, maybe 25) in purchasing a membership. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 06:36 - Jun 19 with 7346 views | USA |
Agree wholeheartedly.
It doesn’t help that the begging for tickets begun on here minutes after the fixtures announced with a very prominent member asking for Man City away tickets which openly goes against club policy and exasperates the issue you mention stopping us all having a chance at a ticket.
The club hopefully recognise the closed shop it created and need to have a re-think. The top 3,000 of course will downvote us both immediately as it suits them as it is!! |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 06:53 - Jun 19 with 7287 views | textbackup |
| Memberships & ballots on 06:36 - Jun 19 by USA |
Agree wholeheartedly.
It doesn’t help that the begging for tickets begun on here minutes after the fixtures announced with a very prominent member asking for Man City away tickets which openly goes against club policy and exasperates the issue you mention stopping us all having a chance at a ticket.
The club hopefully recognise the closed shop it created and need to have a re-think. The top 3,000 of course will downvote us both immediately as it suits them as it is!! |
So we are bad people for attending an absolute fck load of games, even if we couldn’t afford it at times, and couldn’t really justify being there by missing family events or booking AL that we really didn’t have enough of…
Those are the things that get me.
People seem to think ‘oh they’ve done loads of away games they have loads of money and spare time’
No we fcking don’t, we’ve made sacrifices, prioritised ITFC way too often.
So yes, we should have priority over those that have opted to not use their AL, or haven’t stretched themselves financially. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 06:58 - Jun 19 with 7267 views | SitfcB |
They should just make it public how many people are in each bracket.
There’s not going to be 3000 people in the top points brackets.
The highest some could be is 33 points (and that’s assuming they give you 5 points for buying it and having it last season again) - if that’s the case there won’t be more than a few 100 who will be on 33. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 07:04 - Jun 19 with 7243 views | SitfcB |
| Memberships & ballots on 06:53 - Jun 19 by textbackup |
So we are bad people for attending an absolute fck load of games, even if we couldn’t afford it at times, and couldn’t really justify being there by missing family events or booking AL that we really didn’t have enough of…
Those are the things that get me.
People seem to think ‘oh they’ve done loads of away games they have loads of money and spare time’
No we fcking don’t, we’ve made sacrifices, prioritised ITFC way too often.
So yes, we should have priority over those that have opted to not use their AL, or haven’t stretched themselves financially. |
Couldn’t have put it better myself and is exactly right, people must think I have bags full of money but I don’t 
Makes me laugh that people keep saying they didn’t have the time etc to go to away games the last few years but now suddenly seem to have to time, how convenient 
All this ‘I couldn’t get any tickets last season as didn’t have enough points’ is a load of sh!te I know of people that started on 5 points at the start of the season and managed to get to every game and now sit on nearly 30 points, when ever anyone on here is asked what games they wanted to do but missed out on the answer is always Watford It’s games like that is why the new system was put in place!! | |
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| Memberships & ballots on 07:22 - Jun 19 with 7144 views | ITFC_Forever |
It’s basic economics.
Demand is far higher than Supply, so the club have put steps in to help those who are prepared to go to the most games over those who fancy a day out every now and then.
And while demand continues to outstrip supply by such a large amount, there’s no answer to it that will please everyone.
If you make x% available via a ballot, then that’s not fair on the next ones in line on the points system.
I’ve yet to see anyone propose a solution that works for everyone… because it doesn’t exist. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 07:47 - Jun 19 with 7056 views | Guthrum |
| Memberships & ballots on 07:22 - Jun 19 by ITFC_Forever |
It’s basic economics.
Demand is far higher than Supply, so the club have put steps in to help those who are prepared to go to the most games over those who fancy a day out every now and then.
And while demand continues to outstrip supply by such a large amount, there’s no answer to it that will please everyone.
If you make x% available via a ballot, then that’s not fair on the next ones in line on the points system.
I’ve yet to see anyone propose a solution that works for everyone… because it doesn’t exist. |
And, in a sense, both sides are not unreasonable in their outrage. Those who will be denied even a rare opportunity to watch their team (which they may have had in the pre-Gamechanger past) and those who have put in immense effort going to virtually every match, not wanting to miss out in this of all seasons.
For this year, we'll just have to ride it out and be patient with one another. Especially for games like Brentford, which is both quite close and tiny. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 09:10 - Jun 19 with 6794 views | ParisBlue |
So you didn't manage to go to Boro, Blackburn, Preston, Rotherham, Bristol City, Reading, Cardiff, Sheff Weds all of which went to general sale. Personnal circumstances might not have worked in your favour, but there were matches where nobody was excluded
With available home tickets being few this season there will be thousands unable to attend Portman Road who have been for years. I dont see season ticket holders agreeing to relinquish their tickets to join a ballot to help out. [Post edited 19 Jun 2024 9:24]
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| Memberships & ballots on 09:13 - Jun 19 with 6767 views | greymonkey |
This is maybe a bit out there but with shareholders no longer being able to receive dividends should there be some consideration for making it easier for them to obtain tickets? [Post edited 19 Jun 2024 9:14]
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| Memberships & ballots on 09:25 - Jun 19 with 6634 views | itfc48 |
I imagine there will be a few games that might be accessible given the extortionate pricing at some grounds. Leicester's matchday price rises are eye-watering. I really hope we don't follow suit. | | | |
| Memberships & ballots on 09:28 - Jun 19 with 6608 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Memberships & ballots on 06:53 - Jun 19 by textbackup |
So we are bad people for attending an absolute fck load of games, even if we couldn’t afford it at times, and couldn’t really justify being there by missing family events or booking AL that we really didn’t have enough of…
Those are the things that get me.
People seem to think ‘oh they’ve done loads of away games they have loads of money and spare time’
No we fcking don’t, we’ve made sacrifices, prioritised ITFC way too often.
So yes, we should have priority over those that have opted to not use their AL, or haven’t stretched themselves financially. |
no one should get priority tbh, it's an away game. You don't purchase an away season ticket, therefore imo all away tickets should be for general sale. Upset people for sure, but it's fair to all. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 09:30 - Jun 19 with 6600 views | USA |
| Memberships & ballots on 07:04 - Jun 19 by SitfcB |
Couldn’t have put it better myself and is exactly right, people must think I have bags full of money but I don’t
Makes me laugh that people keep saying they didn’t have the time etc to go to away games the last few years but now suddenly seem to have to time, how convenient
All this ‘I couldn’t get any tickets last season as didn’t have enough points’ is a load of sh!te I know of people that started on 5 points at the start of the season and managed to get to every game and now sit on nearly 30 points, when ever anyone on here is asked what games they wanted to do but missed out on the answer is always Watford It’s games like that is why the new system was put in place!! |
Why don’t you have enough points for Man City away then? Why are you begging for a ticket? | |
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| Memberships & ballots on 09:32 - Jun 19 with 6588 views | longtimefan |
| Memberships & ballots on 06:58 - Jun 19 by SitfcB |
They should just make it public how many people are in each bracket.
There’s not going to be 3000 people in the top points brackets.
The highest some could be is 33 points (and that’s assuming they give you 5 points for buying it and having it last season again) - if that’s the case there won’t be more than a few 100 who will be on 33. |
You're forgetting two away cup fixtures that will also count, so probably 35 pts max. | | | |
| Memberships & ballots on 09:49 - Jun 19 with 6503 views | DinDjarin |
| Memberships & ballots on 09:25 - Jun 19 by itfc48 |
I imagine there will be a few games that might be accessible given the extortionate pricing at some grounds. Leicester's matchday price rises are eye-watering. I really hope we don't follow suit. |
All away tickets are capped at 30 quid |  | | |
| Memberships & ballots on 10:01 - Jun 19 with 6470 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Memberships & ballots on 06:53 - Jun 19 by textbackup |
So we are bad people for attending an absolute fck load of games, even if we couldn’t afford it at times, and couldn’t really justify being there by missing family events or booking AL that we really didn’t have enough of…
Those are the things that get me.
People seem to think ‘oh they’ve done loads of away games they have loads of money and spare time’
No we fcking don’t, we’ve made sacrifices, prioritised ITFC way too often.
So yes, we should have priority over those that have opted to not use their AL, or haven’t stretched themselves financially. |
Mate, getting tickets is an emotive issue and I can see your point, but that is not the point of this thread.
To clarify my OP, I was trying to say that it is a commercial decision for the club. If they don’t introduce a ballot, and just continue with the points system as is, that inevitably leads to loads of people deciding there is no point in renewing their SB membership. It is too late for anyone outside the 20+ points bracket to get any benefit, hence people with lower points are paying out £40 or more for nothing.
If however there is a ballot system introduced for a few hundred tickets amongst SB members, then I and thousands like me would renew the SB membership. Apologies if that wasn’t clear from the OP. | |
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:03 - Jun 19 with 6428 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Memberships & ballots on 09:25 - Jun 19 by itfc48 |
I imagine there will be a few games that might be accessible given the extortionate pricing at some grounds. Leicester's matchday price rises are eye-watering. I really hope we don't follow suit. |
There is a universal price for away fans.
Match day prices at Portman Road will increase significantly remember there are 20% fewer games a season. [Post edited 19 Jun 2024 10:20]
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:04 - Jun 19 with 6424 views | textbackup |
| Memberships & ballots on 10:01 - Jun 19 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Mate, getting tickets is an emotive issue and I can see your point, but that is not the point of this thread.
To clarify my OP, I was trying to say that it is a commercial decision for the club. If they don’t introduce a ballot, and just continue with the points system as is, that inevitably leads to loads of people deciding there is no point in renewing their SB membership. It is too late for anyone outside the 20+ points bracket to get any benefit, hence people with lower points are paying out £40 or more for nothing.
If however there is a ballot system introduced for a few hundred tickets amongst SB members, then I and thousands like me would renew the SB membership. Apologies if that wasn’t clear from the OP. |
No I apologise for going off on a rant, and it certainly wasn’t aimed at yourself.
Woke up and chose to be grumpy didn’t I 😂 | |
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:04 - Jun 19 with 6421 views | Dyland |
| Memberships & ballots on 10:01 - Jun 19 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Mate, getting tickets is an emotive issue and I can see your point, but that is not the point of this thread.
To clarify my OP, I was trying to say that it is a commercial decision for the club. If they don’t introduce a ballot, and just continue with the points system as is, that inevitably leads to loads of people deciding there is no point in renewing their SB membership. It is too late for anyone outside the 20+ points bracket to get any benefit, hence people with lower points are paying out £40 or more for nothing.
If however there is a ballot system introduced for a few hundred tickets amongst SB members, then I and thousands like me would renew the SB membership. Apologies if that wasn’t clear from the OP. |
Doesn’t membership give you first dibs on home tickets though? If yes then definitely a point to buying membership. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:05 - Jun 19 with 6412 views | Dyland |
| Memberships & ballots on 10:04 - Jun 19 by textbackup |
No I apologise for going off on a rant, and it certainly wasn’t aimed at yourself.
Woke up and chose to be grumpy didn’t I 😂 |
Plus ca change…
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:07 - Jun 19 with 6399 views | HighgateBlue |
I accept that I will miss out an awful lot, and I accept that there is no perfect way to organise ticket sales or to please anyone.
What I do find a little galling is to have paid for a membership which turns out to have got me precisely nothing.
Oh well, I guess we're all a little more aware how the land lies this season and can make decisions accordingly.
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:07 - Jun 19 with 6397 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Memberships & ballots on 10:04 - Jun 19 by Dyland |
Doesn’t membership give you first dibs on home tickets though? If yes then definitely a point to buying membership. |
Not if you already have a season ticket  | |
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:09 - Jun 19 with 6381 views | Dyland |
| Memberships & ballots on 10:07 - Jun 19 by LegendofthePhoenix |
Not if you already have a season ticket |
Abahahahaa.
Deffo worth it for family and friends who want to come to FPR then innit. Assume you have any ;)
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:18 - Jun 19 with 6354 views | Herbivore |
I can't imagine the numbers of fans in the higher brackets will be as high as some think they are. Most away allocations last season were significantly smaller than the 3k we'll be getting as standard in the Prem so not many fans will have made all away games last season.
It's a tricky one, my view is that fans who have been loyal should be rewarded and should have priority. There's a question over what loyalty looks like I guess, is it someone who was going to 5 away games a year even during the dark days of Lambert or someone who didn't do away games until last season when they racked up 15? The club is rewarding the latter but I get why, there's only so far you can go back in time to reward loyalty.
Personally, as I've said elsewhere, I'd like to see something like 10 or 20% of the allocation going to a members' ballot, perhaps alongside the ability to request priority for one or two fixtures a year. That leaves 2400 or 2700 tickets for the most loyal away fans who go to most away games whilst leaving a decent number for those who want to go to some away games but can't commit to going to them all. Otherwise, as has been mentioned, having a membership becomes pointless and away games risk becoming a completely closed shop. It's not like the points system isn't open to abuse either, there will be people with 20+ points who may have gone to very few games themselves but have bought tickets for mates, for example. |  |
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:22 - Jun 19 with 6305 views | glasso |
I can't get any away tickets. It's annoying (especially as geographically I could get to more games this season than I could before), but it is what it is. I'm happy for diehard fans to go or else we get an atmosphere like Norwich away last season, which doesn't help anybody.
Ultimately, that's what being a Prem fan is like. Lots of demand, not enough tickets. I'll be a lot more annoyed if we start seeing tourists from abroad getting tickets before me, but if it's lads (and ladies!) from Ipswich then I can live with that.
Having said that, this idea that fans without points haven't 'done the hard work' is a bit of a nonsense. I went to plenty of away games back when I was young, free and single (and with some more bloody cash than I have now) - I pretty much toured the north when I was at Uni, although that was a while back now.
It'd be nice if there was *some* way for new or returning fans to bag a ticket, but I wouldn't mind if it was a pretty small number - 100 tickets for away games held back for a ballot or something. At least then there's a small chance to bag a ticket and also get points for the future, otherwise there's no way for anyone else to find a way in [Post edited 19 Jun 2024 10:27]
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:26 - Jun 19 with 6274 views | SitfcB |
| Memberships & ballots on 09:30 - Jun 19 by USA |
Why don’t you have enough points for Man City away then? Why are you begging for a ticket? |
Where’s that happened? | |
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| Memberships & ballots on 10:27 - Jun 19 with 6268 views | SitfcB |
| Memberships & ballots on 09:32 - Jun 19 by longtimefan |
You're forgetting two away cup fixtures that will also count, so probably 35 pts max. |
Ah yeah sorry forgot them. | |
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