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VAR 21:36 - Jun 21 with 6926 views

Wrong AGAIN

Netherlands should be 1-0 v France

Yes he's in an offside position, but NOT in GK's line of sight & made no attempt to move towards the ball as it flew in the net
I'm afraid if the GK says he's unable to dive left cos that's where the player is, the GK should be diving left anyway

Pathetic VAR decision AGAIN
Yet another reason it should be scrapped altogether

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VAR on 21:45 - Jun 21 with 2867 views

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VAR on 21:48 - Jun 21 with 2852 views

Herbivore

You do realise that without VAR the goal still wouldn't have stood, right? Offside was the on field decision after the ref consulted his lino.

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VAR on 21:56 - Jun 21 with 2821 views

BloomBlue

Boring game, both teams so ssslllloooowwww.

Don't think any of the other teams watching that, based on that game, will be worried about facing either.

VAR on 22:00 - Jun 21 with 2794 views

ITFCSG

Obvious both teams were content to play for a draw and get 4 points each, advance to the knockout stage and eliminate Poland.

VAR on 22:06 - Jun 21 with 2765 views

VanSaParody

VAR on 21:48 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
You do realise that without VAR the goal still wouldn't have stood, right? Offside was the on field decision after the ref consulted his lino.

Correct, you're absolutely right

However, we currently DO have VAR, so it's supposed to be used to eliminate clear & obvious errors by the on field officials

Before VAR, we just had the ref to blame for making a wrong decision
With VAR, we have the team of officials, technology AND the VAR team ...& between the lot, they're STILL getting some really clear & obvious things ABSOLUTELY WRONG

VAR on 22:10 - Jun 21 with 2735 views

Swansea_Blue

VAR on 21:48 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
You do realise that without VAR the goal still wouldn't have stood, right? Offside was the on field decision after the ref consulted his lino.

Yep. It should have taken one look and about 15 seconds to double check there wasn’t a clear and obvious error. Really poor officiating to let that drag on the way they did.

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VAR on 22:11 - Jun 21 with 2720 views

Herbivore

VAR on 22:06 - Jun 21 by VanSaParody
Correct, you're absolutely right However, we currently DO have VAR, so it's supposed to be used to eliminate clear & obvious errors by the on field officials Before VAR, we just had the ref to blame for making a wrong decision With VAR, we have the team of officials, technology AND the VAR team ...& between the lot, they're STILL getting some really clear & obvious things ABSOLUTELY WRONG

This one wasn't clear and obvious though. It's a judgement call whether he's impeding the keeper or not.

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VAR on 22:16 - Jun 21 with 2699 views

SitfcB

VAR on 22:11 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
This one wasn't clear and obvious though. It's a judgement call whether he's impeding the keeper or not.

Which he wasn’t

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VAR on 22:16 - Jun 21 with 2691 views

VanSaParody

VAR on 22:11 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
This one wasn't clear and obvious though. It's a judgement call whether he's impeding the keeper or not.

Clear and obvious to me

Anyone who says it should have been disallowed, well, I just don't know what you're seeing & I'd question your judgement

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VAR on 22:18 - Jun 21 with 2662 views

Herbivore

VAR on 22:16 - Jun 21 by VanSaParody
Clear and obvious to me Anyone who says it should have been disallowed, well, I just don't know what you're seeing & I'd question your judgement

Clear and obvious to you but not to everyone, including the on field officials and VAR. Where he's stood, you can see why they felt he was interfering.

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VAR on 22:28 - Jun 21 with 2625 views

Cafe_Newman

VAR on 22:10 - Jun 21 by Swansea_Blue
Yep. It should have taken one look and about 15 seconds to double check there wasn’t a clear and obvious error. Really poor officiating to let that drag on the way they did.

I enjoyed watching Xabi get mobbed and then gradually start to well up as the agonising wait went on. Great TV.

VAR on 22:32 - Jun 21 with 2608 views

MattinLondon

If next season, Town concede in exactly the same way and VAR awards the goal. The same people criticising the VAR decision today will be losing their mind if it were allowed to stand against us.

VAR on 22:37 - Jun 21 with 2580 views

SitfcB

VAR on 22:32 - Jun 21 by MattinLondon
If next season, Town concede in exactly the same way and VAR awards the goal. The same people criticising the VAR decision today will be losing their mind if it were allowed to stand against us.

Well yeah. That’s football.

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VAR on 22:38 - Jun 21 with 2571 views

VanSaParody

VAR on 22:18 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
Clear and obvious to you but not to everyone, including the on field officials and VAR. Where he's stood, you can see why they felt he was interfering.

Which is why I'd question anyone's judgement if they are also NOT seeing what's clear & obvious

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VAR on 22:46 - Jun 21 with 2534 views

Herbivore

VAR on 22:38 - Jun 21 by VanSaParody
Which is why I'd question anyone's judgement if they are also NOT seeing what's clear & obvious

I'd question the judgement of anyone who can't see why it's not clear and obvious.

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VAR on 22:50 - Jun 21 with 2532 views

ArnoldMoorhen

It would have been offside, full stop, no question, up until relatively recently.

My question is: why does Dumfries walk towards the goal, and give the ref the opportunity to give him offside?

He doesn't know where the shot is going to go when he goes and stands in the 6 yard box.

I don't see it as an outrageously bad decision, as it seems everyone else does. He was in an offside position, he is in the way of the keeper being able to dive. If he wasn't there, every single professional keeper in the world would dive there and make an attempt to save the ball. It is his presence in an offside position that takes that opportunity away. If there was even a one in a thousand chance of the keeper saving it then he has interfered. I think, if he isn't there, then the odds are better than that.

I think many referees wouldn't give it, but I think a lot would.

And I would give it as offside.

VAR on 22:53 - Jun 21 with 2521 views

VanSaParody

VAR on 22:32 - Jun 21 by MattinLondon
If next season, Town concede in exactly the same way and VAR awards the goal. The same people criticising the VAR decision today will be losing their mind if it were allowed to stand against us.

No, because it would be the correct decision
As upsetting as it will be in this scenario as it would be against us

However, tonight's clear & obvious error by first, the on field officials for disallowing it, then VAR for NOT asking on field officials to review their otherwise, clear & obvious error, is for me, having looked at it from a neutral perspective, as I have absolutely no affiliation to either of these two teams/nations

So my opinion, I believe, is in the interest of fairness

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VAR on 22:53 - Jun 21 with 2517 views

redrickstuhaart

VAR on 22:50 - Jun 21 by ArnoldMoorhen

Right. I didnt see it live so cant comment on the delay and all that nonsense.

But an incredibly difficult call for a ref. Neither answer is definitively wrong, and anyone who suggests it is, is being silly.

He is right in the ball's path. Would it have made a difference? Hard to say. Probably not. But the rule is not based on that. Is he involved in the play? It almost goes through him. Its offside imo. But silly to complain about either interpretation.

VAR on 23:01 - Jun 21 with 2477 views

VanSaParody

VAR on 22:46 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
I'd question the judgement of anyone who can't see why it's not clear and obvious.

I think I'd heartily recommend you hold someone's hand while crossing the next road you cross, because you're clearly NOT going to see that big obvious bus

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VAR on 23:03 - Jun 21 with 2473 views

Marshalls_Mullet

I think it was fair enough.

I wouldn't have complained if the goal stood either though.

Chill out.

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VAR on 23:04 - Jun 21 with 2463 views

Marshalls_Mullet

VAR on 22:53 - Jun 21 by VanSaParody

Youre in for a long season! lol

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VAR on 23:11 - Jun 21 with 2422 views

Marshalls_Mullet

VAR on 22:53 - Jun 21 by redrickstuhaart

THIS.

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VAR on 23:36 - Jun 21 with 2340 views

bobwya

VAR on 23:11 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet
THIS.

Whether the decision was right or wrong how on earth was Stuart Atwell - the VAR - allowed anywhere near the EUROS?

VAR on 23:46 - Jun 21 with 2305 views

Trequartista

VAR on 22:11 - Jun 21 by Herbivore
This one wasn't clear and obvious though. It's a judgement call whether he's impeding the keeper or not.

Surely in these "interfering with play" dilemmas, the on field decision is always going to be offside because the lino has to flag as he/she has no input on if the player is interfering.

That makes it harder to give a goal than disallow a goal if we are always applying "clear and obvious error" to a decision which will always start with "no goal"

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VAR on 23:48 - Jun 21 with 2292 views

Herbivore

VAR on 23:46 - Jun 21 by Trequartista
Surely in these "interfering with play" dilemmas, the on field decision is always going to be offside because the lino has to flag as he/she has no input on if the player is interfering. That makes it harder to give a goal than disallow a goal if we are always applying "clear and obvious error" to a decision which will always start with "no goal"

That's why the lino and the ref had a conversation before disallowing it. The ref would have had a different view to the lino of where Memphis was stood.

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