| These riots throughout the country 08:58 - Aug 3 with 20770 views | onceablue |
Are really inappropriate and awful but I can’t help feeling that Kier Starmer isn’t helping the situation
There have have been lots of violent instances recently but comments differ so drastically from Starmer depending on who is doing the rioting.
The people rioting in Leeds were not called violent thugs by Starmer although setting fire to police car and bus
The people who attacked the police at Manchester Airport were not called violent thugs by Starmer
In fact Starmer defended them
Yet if the indigenous population protest they are called violent thugs
If you set fire to a police car and attack the police you are a violent thug regardless of your origin and you should be called so
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| These riots throughout the country on 12:30 - Aug 3 with 1841 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:20 - Aug 3 by textbackup |
Again, agree on that front.
As yet I’ve not seen a single Muslim or immigrant attacked as part of these ‘riots’ ‘protests’
Which say to me this is more about people being sick to death with the country as a whole.
That’s my take on it anyway |
Have you spent the last week sleeping? |  |
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| These riots throughout the country on 12:34 - Aug 3 with 1812 views | textbackup |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:26 - Aug 3 by BarcaBlue |
The bricks smashing the windows at the Southport mosque were just accidental collateral damage? The anti-muslim chanting wasn't a verbal attack and was just incidental? Wake up mate. |
As I said in earlier posts, there are a number using this as an excuse to be lawless pricks. Which to be fair they see others doing on a daily basis with no punishment.
Immigration is out of control in this country. We are letting in thousands of unchecked males each year. That is a problem. I don’t understand why some don’t care about that, I also don’t understand why if you do care about that that you are branded far right. It’s absolutely crazy.
There will be thousands of wonderful immigrants that we completely need here, and will become hugely important members of society. If immigration is done well then we all benefit. I’m not sure any of that is unfair to say/suggest |  |
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| These riots throughout the country on 12:38 - Aug 3 with 1776 views | DJR |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:20 - Aug 3 by textbackup |
Again, agree on that front.
As yet I’ve not seen a single Muslim or immigrant attacked as part of these ‘riots’ ‘protests’
Which say to me this is more about people being sick to death with the country as a whole.
That’s my take on it anyway |
Did you not read what I posted above?
https://metro.co.uk/2024/08/02/muslim-stabbed-train-station-hours-far-right-demo |  | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:42 - Aug 3 with 1755 views | textbackup |
Clearly not, or else I’d not have posted what I’d did. | |
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| These riots throughout the country on 12:43 - Aug 3 with 1744 views | DinDjarin |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:34 - Aug 3 by textbackup |
As I said in earlier posts, there are a number using this as an excuse to be lawless pricks. Which to be fair they see others doing on a daily basis with no punishment.
Immigration is out of control in this country. We are letting in thousands of unchecked males each year. That is a problem. I don’t understand why some don’t care about that, I also don’t understand why if you do care about that that you are branded far right. It’s absolutely crazy.
There will be thousands of wonderful immigrants that we completely need here, and will become hugely important members of society. If immigration is done well then we all benefit. I’m not sure any of that is unfair to say/suggest |
Careful as the apologist echo chamber will call you a far right nutter. |  | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:52 - Aug 3 with 1695 views | DinDjarin |
So was it a Muslim man stabbed or not as the article does not make that clear. Can you tell a Muslim by looking at them?
This race politics by the media is not helping and things are slowly spiraling out of control and fully expect more fatalities if its not brought back under control.
From the article - ' a man turned around and stabbed a man, believed to be Muslim' | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:53 - Aug 3 with 1687 views | eireblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 10:06 - Aug 3 by The_Flashing_Smile |
So it's just the phrase "violent thugs" that you have a bee in your bonnet about? |
Yea, some of these people have professional pride, clearly.
They want to be called somethings else, I mean it is a bit of snowflake thing, but you know,….. certain people need a bit of molly coddling and are sensitive to these things.
“Yes mate, if Kier had referred to us as violent and disgraceful criminals, I may well have considered throwing one less brick,..he really has brought this on himself, sorry must dash, I drank a bit too much looted lager and I need to have a p1ss in someone’s garden” |  | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:54 - Aug 3 with 1672 views | BarcaBlue |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:43 - Aug 3 by DinDjarin |
Careful as the apologist echo chamber will call you a far right nutter. |
Apologist echo chamber? That makes no sense at all. Apologising for what? You probably just thought that sounded smart but it's meaningless nonsense. |  | | |
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:02 - Aug 3 with 1636 views | DJR |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:52 - Aug 3 by DinDjarin |
So was it a Muslim man stabbed or not as the article does not make that clear. Can you tell a Muslim by looking at them?
This race politics by the media is not helping and things are slowly spiraling out of control and fully expect more fatalities if its not brought back under control.
From the article - ' a man turned around and stabbed a man, believed to be Muslim' |
Isn't that the very point though, namely, that non-Muslim people of south east Asian heritage are just at risk of attack/rancour as Muslims because they look the same?
Indeed, according to Wikipedia the term PaXi (derived from Pakistan) is a derogatory ethnic slur originating from the United Kingdom, directed towards people of Pakistani and by extension South Asian (mainly Indian and Bangladeshi) descent, as well as Muslims or perceived Muslims in general.
Indeed, whether you were of Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi heritage, would you feel safe going anywhere near these demonstrations, whether or not you were a Muslim? [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 13:06]
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:10 - Aug 3 with 1589 views | eireblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 10:23 - Aug 3 by onceablue |
Surely anything is worth a go to change the mindset of the far right
What are they doing in your country?
Your protests and rioting are even worse than in England |
I live in the U.K. Yea, I am one of those scary immigrants, or even worse, I could be a second generation immigrant, apparently they are very bad according to Farage.
I don’t see much difference in the far right thugs of the NF that suggested I go home, to the ones today…….actually……they did dress better……..anyhoo…..there is even more mainstream politicians given much more airtime, and having bigger reach on social media than when the NF where around.
So dialogue and views on immigration are aired in public, regularly.
There are opportunities to vote for parties that have very strict ideas on immigration.
Today the laws of the country are much stricter than they have ever been, we criminalise people who previously would have been labelled asylum seekers.
And, if you recall, the first riot happened and Kier called them violent thugs. Not the other way around. [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 13:11]
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:14 - Aug 3 with 1562 views | Kropotkin123 |
Indigenous? Anglo-Saxons? The Germanic people? The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes? The ones that labelled the last British people Wales, aka foreigner. The ones the caused the natives to flee to Brittany? Land of the Angles? Anglesland? England? The Angleish people? English people? Indigenous? Really??? Odd take at best. [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 13:21]
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:19 - Aug 3 with 1531 views | DanTheMan |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:52 - Aug 3 by DinDjarin |
So was it a Muslim man stabbed or not as the article does not make that clear. Can you tell a Muslim by looking at them?
This race politics by the media is not helping and things are slowly spiraling out of control and fully expect more fatalities if its not brought back under control.
From the article - ' a man turned around and stabbed a man, believed to be Muslim' |
"Can you tell a Muslim by looking at them?"
Sometimes it is very obvious, much like some Jewish people wear traditional Jewish attire. |  |
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:21 - Aug 3 with 1521 views | eireblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:02 - Aug 3 by DJR |
Isn't that the very point though, namely, that non-Muslim people of south east Asian heritage are just at risk of attack/rancour as Muslims because they look the same?
Indeed, according to Wikipedia the term PaXi (derived from Pakistan) is a derogatory ethnic slur originating from the United Kingdom, directed towards people of Pakistani and by extension South Asian (mainly Indian and Bangladeshi) descent, as well as Muslims or perceived Muslims in general.
Indeed, whether you were of Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi heritage, would you feel safe going anywhere near these demonstrations, whether or not you were a Muslim? [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 13:06]
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I know tell me about it, I mean, having to correct racists that shout things across the street is soooo tiring, “No not the P word, man you really need to have more diversity in your language, and have a few more Hispanic based ethnic slurs, what are they teaching you in these far right groups sheeeze” | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:23 - Aug 3 with 1500 views | wkj |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:34 - Aug 3 by textbackup |
As I said in earlier posts, there are a number using this as an excuse to be lawless pricks. Which to be fair they see others doing on a daily basis with no punishment.
Immigration is out of control in this country. We are letting in thousands of unchecked males each year. That is a problem. I don’t understand why some don’t care about that, I also don’t understand why if you do care about that that you are branded far right. It’s absolutely crazy.
There will be thousands of wonderful immigrants that we completely need here, and will become hugely important members of society. If immigration is done well then we all benefit. I’m not sure any of that is unfair to say/suggest |
They seem like seriously violent scumbags, I feel the boot is needed.
Police would get to work, with a pay rise.
Would be great work from them. |  |
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:32 - Aug 3 with 1441 views | eireblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:14 - Aug 3 by Kropotkin123 |
Indigenous? Anglo-Saxons? The Germanic people? The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes? The ones that labelled the last British people Wales, aka foreigner. The ones the caused the natives to flee to Brittany? Land of the Angles? Anglesland? England? The Angleish people? English people? Indigenous? Really??? Odd take at best. [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 13:21]
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Don’t forget the Celts, I am more “indigenous” than some trumped up Anglo-Saxon.
My forefathers went up against the Romans and fought over hundreds of years, one arrow, and the Anglo-Saxons gave in to the French!
You can see why these new Anglo-Saxon types don’t like being called names, soft. | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:40 - Aug 3 with 1386 views | leitrimblue |
You really need to explain what you mean by indigenous. |  | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:43 - Aug 3 with 1354 views | leitrimblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:43 - Aug 3 by DinDjarin |
Careful as the apologist echo chamber will call you a far right nutter. |
How would you describe people draped in the St George's crosses attacking the police and chanting about Our Tommy and anti Muslim BS? | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:45 - Aug 3 with 1345 views | Kropotkin123 |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:32 - Aug 3 by eireblue |
Don’t forget the Celts, I am more “indigenous” than some trumped up Anglo-Saxon.
My forefathers went up against the Romans and fought over hundreds of years, one arrow, and the Anglo-Saxons gave in to the French!
You can see why these new Anglo-Saxon types don’t like being called names, soft. |
Weren't the Celts responsible for wiping out the native Picts around the same time? I'm definitely in territory where I need to go read some facts myself now. | |
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| These riots throughout the country on 13:50 - Aug 3 with 1325 views | leitrimblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:32 - Aug 3 by eireblue |
Don’t forget the Celts, I am more “indigenous” than some trumped up Anglo-Saxon.
My forefathers went up against the Romans and fought over hundreds of years, one arrow, and the Anglo-Saxons gave in to the French!
You can see why these new Anglo-Saxon types don’t like being called names, soft. |
Oi you celts just turned up late and ruined our proud 'indigenous' neolithic and bronze age cultures. | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:00 - Aug 3 with 1254 views | DJR |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:50 - Aug 3 by leitrimblue |
Oi you celts just turned up late and ruined our proud 'indigenous' neolithic and bronze age cultures. |
You-re only truly indigenous if you can claim descent from those whose footprints dating from 800,000 ago were found at Happisburgh.
Having said that, you also count as indigenous if you have German and Huguenot ancestors, a German passport and the Huguenot surname Farage. You also count if you have an Irish mother, an Irish passport and the surname Yaxley-Lennon. [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 14:12]
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| These riots throughout the country on 14:26 - Aug 3 with 1171 views | leitrimblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:00 - Aug 3 by DJR |
You-re only truly indigenous if you can claim descent from those whose footprints dating from 800,000 ago were found at Happisburgh.
Having said that, you also count as indigenous if you have German and Huguenot ancestors, a German passport and the Huguenot surname Farage. You also count if you have an Irish mother, an Irish passport and the surname Yaxley-Lennon. [Post edited 3 Aug 2024 14:12]
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Anyone who's ancestors arrived after cheddar man. ( best named prehistoric man by miles) needs to pipe down and work on fitting in to our culture.
Weird enough how many of those most outspoken about immigration etc have blind spots when it comes down to their own ancestry and family backgrounds | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:35 - Aug 3 with 1125 views | eireblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:26 - Aug 3 by leitrimblue |
Anyone who's ancestors arrived after cheddar man. ( best named prehistoric man by miles) needs to pipe down and work on fitting in to our culture.
Weird enough how many of those most outspoken about immigration etc have blind spots when it comes down to their own ancestry and family backgrounds |
Ahhh man cheddar, I guess the vegans are out then…  | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:38 - Aug 3 with 1115 views | DinDjarin |
| These riots throughout the country on 13:43 - Aug 3 by leitrimblue |
How would you describe people draped in the St George's crosses attacking the police and chanting about Our Tommy and anti Muslim BS? |
I would correctly call them far right.
But I would also not call anyone far right just because they have genuine concerns over immigration which is is what they are labelled as currently.
There is no middle ground anymore and the division is getting wider and I have no idea what the answer is tbh. | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:40 - Aug 3 with 1104 views | DinDjarin |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:54 - Aug 3 by BarcaBlue |
Apologist echo chamber? That makes no sense at all. Apologising for what? You probably just thought that sounded smart but it's meaningless nonsense. |
Appreciate you taking the time to reply. | | | |
| These riots throughout the country on 14:52 - Aug 3 with 1036 views | eireblue |
| These riots throughout the country on 12:34 - Aug 3 by textbackup |
As I said in earlier posts, there are a number using this as an excuse to be lawless pricks. Which to be fair they see others doing on a daily basis with no punishment.
Immigration is out of control in this country. We are letting in thousands of unchecked males each year. That is a problem. I don’t understand why some don’t care about that, I also don’t understand why if you do care about that that you are branded far right. It’s absolutely crazy.
There will be thousands of wonderful immigrants that we completely need here, and will become hugely important members of society. If immigration is done well then we all benefit. I’m not sure any of that is unfair to say/suggest |
This narrative being repeated by Farage et al…men of fighting age.
Take Afghanistan, 60% of the population are under 24.
So it is demographics, that is at play, maybe?
If such facts as demographic data isn’t being considered, then I think it is possible that people that emphasise “fighting age” should be suspected of using simple bullet points to stoke up a reaction.
Also I somewhat wonder, what would be the expectation in a family that is fleeing.
Would we expect a young man, to say, hey mother, sister, I know, you go first, if you make it then we will try the family reunification thing.
Of course you could, go as a family, where a young man tries to protect family.
Again, I wonder what is most prevalent, and seems more likely to the family in such a circumstance.
Now, I know the phrase,
asylum seekers arriving in the U.K. are not aligned with the demographic data from their own countries and we should do a bit more research on that to see if it is indicative of a pattern that we should be concerned about or will cause issues we should consider when accepting individual asylum seekers on their own individual merits in case that has further consequences for the U.K. and we should also ensure that there is a significant difference to warrant doing more research…..
probably wouldn’t trip that well off the tongue of SYL and Farage types, but if someone did say something like that,….yea that would seem reasonable.
Rather than invoke the term fighting age. | | | |
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