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Are really inappropriate and awful but I can’t help feeling that Kier Starmer isn’t helping the situation
There have have been lots of violent instances recently but comments differ so drastically from Starmer depending on who is doing the rioting.
The people rioting in Leeds were not called violent thugs by Starmer although setting fire to police car and bus The people who attacked the police at Manchester Airport were not called violent thugs by Starmer In fact Starmer defended them
Yet if the indigenous population protest they are called violent thugs
If you set fire to a police car and attack the police you are a violent thug regardless of your origin and you should be called so
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These riots throughout the country on 15:07 - Aug 3 with 1845 views
These riots throughout the country on 14:35 - Aug 3 by eireblue
Ahhh man cheddar, I guess the vegans are out then…
I believe a cashew formed alternative to Cheddar man turned up shortly afterwards and everyone was happy.
I also wonder if he called himself cheddar man due to being a vegetarian. 10,000 years ago, when everyone else was battering anything that moved and eating it, he choose to be named after his favourite non carnivorous snack.
You also don't hear much about his brother's, red wine and biscuits man.
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These riots throughout the country on 15:11 - Aug 3 with 1822 views
These riots throughout the country on 13:45 - Aug 3 by Kropotkin123
Weren't the Celts responsible for wiping out the native Picts around the same time? I'm definitely in territory where I need to go read some facts myself now.
Think the Picts may have outlived the 'Celts' ( in the UK at least) by several hundred years.
Just to confuse things even more, some would describe the Picts as a Celtic culture
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These riots throughout the country on 15:15 - Aug 3 with 1794 views
These riots throughout the country on 14:38 - Aug 3 by DinDjarin
I would correctly call them far right.
But I would also not call anyone far right just because they have genuine concerns over immigration which is is what they are labelled as currently.
There is no middle ground anymore and the division is getting wider and I have no idea what the answer is tbh.
Perhaps it would be helpful if you could give an example of those that are currently being called far right but who only have genuine concerns about immigration?
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These riots throughout the country on 15:19 - Aug 3 with 1778 views
These riots throughout the country on 13:21 - Aug 3 by eireblue
I know tell me about it, I mean, having to correct racists that shout things across the street is soooo tiring, “No not the P word, man you really need to have more diversity in your language, and have a few more Hispanic based ethnic slurs, what are they teaching you in these far right groups sheeeze”
I wouldn’t worry about it. People call me a penis all the time.
These riots throughout the country on 13:02 - Aug 3 by DJR
Isn't that the very point though, namely, that non-Muslim people of south east Asian heritage are just at risk of attack/rancour as Muslims because they look the same?
Indeed, according to Wikipedia the term PaXi (derived from Pakistan) is a derogatory ethnic slur originating from the United Kingdom, directed towards people of Pakistani and by extension South Asian (mainly Indian and Bangladeshi) descent, as well as Muslims or perceived Muslims in general.
Indeed, whether you were of Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi heritage, would you feel safe going anywhere near these demonstrations, whether or not you were a Muslim?
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As it turns out, this from the Liverpool Echo suggests the man's name was Mohammed.
These riots throughout the country on 15:39 - Aug 3 by factual_blue
Obviously I am Inhabitant zero of the British Isles.
All the rest of you are johnny-come-latelies.
I like to think I'm directly descended from paleolithic hunter gatherers who chased wild herds across the great European Plain prior to the UK forming into islands and who randomly popped up in that part of the European mainland whenever the herd ventured into the far North West of the plain..
I consider the Johnny come latelys who waited til the UK formed into an island before inhabiting it to be a foreign presents who will never truely understand 'our' culture and way of life
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These riots throughout the country on 16:07 - Aug 3 with 1550 views
It’s widely shown that a suspect (let alone a criminal) only has their ethnicity mentioned if they are non-white in our media. Akala highlighted it quite nicely when making a fool of Irish citizen and resident of Spain, Stephen Yaxley Lennon here
I wonder if you spoke up about this previously?
People whataboutting recent events as some sort of cover for what are clearly targeted and organised crimes by the far right, are only underlining the differences. The fact these stemmed from supposed remembrance and vigils only make them all the sicker.
Whether it’s Russian interference amplifying this, narcissistic Populists trying to make money, or the effects of Tory impoverishment of so many communities is irrelevant. There’s no justification for it and those defending it are complicit too.
The scariest part of what we are seeing is that this is coordinated and designed to cause fear and division. It’s little short of domestic terrorism at the top level of organisation and those pulling the strings should be tried as such where the evidence exists.
It’s ironic of course that under May we had vans designed to intimidate, under Rishi the Rwanda plan and between the Windrush scandal etc all causing visible distractions, but it’s been Brexit and the like which has fuelled immigration and the Tory fixation with it as a way to galvanise support that is the background to this.
If people were angry at the right things and the right people they’d not be listening to National Front Nige and his puppet master Banks, they’d be outside their houses instead ironically enough. Calling out Starmer is utterly bizarre with the depth of political culpability for those who he succeeded.
These riots throughout the country on 15:55 - Aug 3 by leitrimblue
I like to think I'm directly descended from paleolithic hunter gatherers who chased wild herds across the great European Plain prior to the UK forming into islands and who randomly popped up in that part of the European mainland whenever the herd ventured into the far North West of the plain..
I consider the Johnny come latelys who waited til the UK formed into an island before inhabiting it to be a foreign presents who will never truely understand 'our' culture and way of life
I'm amazed no-one in this thread has given this an airing...
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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These riots throughout the country on 18:14 - Aug 3 with 1309 views
Groups of Muslims men now walking around Stoke with baseball bats and swords… for the police to calmly ask for them to return them to the Mosque so they aren’t arrested for carrying a weapon.
These riots throughout the country on 18:14 - Aug 3 by textbackup
Groups of Muslims men now walking around Stoke with baseball bats and swords… for the police to calmly ask for them to return them to the Mosque so they aren’t arrested for carrying a weapon.
It’s getting more and more silly by the day
The whole thing is silly.
Police can't stop people shoplifting as we don't have the resources. Police can't attend burglaries or any assaults of note because they are underfunded and understaffed.
However, a bunch of stupid idiots fancy destroying town centres around the UK we stretch the resources/force even further, essentially causing further division, hate and bs whilst the 99 percent of people suffer again.
I don't give a toss what colour skin you are, if you commit a crime, you should feel the full force of the law. No exceptions.
Edit - just a note, the fact you can flee the country whilst being charged with an offence no matter how serious, immigrant or not, is a disgrace.
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These riots throughout the country on 18:23 - Aug 3 with 1229 views
These riots throughout the country on 18:14 - Aug 3 by textbackup
Groups of Muslims men now walking around Stoke with baseball bats and swords… for the police to calmly ask for them to return them to the Mosque so they aren’t arrested for carrying a weapon.
It’s getting more and more silly by the day
and how do you know this? are you there?
can you let us know if all the non-muslim rioters in stoke are being arrested?
These riots throughout the country on 18:20 - Aug 3 by Reus30
The whole thing is silly.
Police can't stop people shoplifting as we don't have the resources. Police can't attend burglaries or any assaults of note because they are underfunded and understaffed.
However, a bunch of stupid idiots fancy destroying town centres around the UK we stretch the resources/force even further, essentially causing further division, hate and bs whilst the 99 percent of people suffer again.
I don't give a toss what colour skin you are, if you commit a crime, you should feel the full force of the law. No exceptions.
Edit - just a note, the fact you can flee the country whilst being charged with an offence no matter how serious, immigrant or not, is a disgrace.
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the thing is though if enough silly people believe what sillier people report on twitter and act on it the police will be soon overwhelmed.
what's the answer, time to take action on the source?
These riots throughout the country on 18:14 - Aug 3 by textbackup
Groups of Muslims men now walking around Stoke with baseball bats and swords… for the police to calmly ask for them to return them to the Mosque so they aren’t arrested for carrying a weapon.
It’s getting more and more silly by the day
But are Muslim men walking around Stoke with baseball bats and swords in order to protect themselves against the far right racist mob that has descended on their area?
I'm not justifying violence of any sort but I'd like to know more about the circumstances.
These riots throughout the country on 18:31 - Aug 3 by GlasgowBlue
There is video footage of this happening. It's getting very close to a race war in some of our cities.
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there's video footage of thousands of white men doing the same (but using them against the police and bystanders), why is it only silly when "muslims" do it?
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