| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics 10:22 - Aug 5 with 16485 views | tractorboy1978 |
Really don't see how we can be. |  | | |  |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:23 - Aug 5 with 10125 views | saffers12 |
Cos Blackburn want 15 to 18 |  | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 with 10117 views | PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |  | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:26 - Aug 5 with 10006 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |
Venkys being Venkys? |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:27 - Aug 5 with 9948 views | hammo56 |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |
Think they will continue to do so and that is why we are hopefully looking at other options. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:28 - Aug 5 with 9888 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:26 - Aug 5 by ITFC_Forever |
Venkys being Venkys? |
Waggott & Suhail being Waggott & Suhail.
We know all this from January and Gallagher. |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:31 - Aug 5 with 9755 views | Europablue |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |
Unless it is about the fee structure, then as soon as the other party does something like that, you can't trust them enough and have to walk away from the deal. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:35 - Aug 5 with 9611 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |
I am amazed he signed that new deal in January with no release clause in his favour. He held all the cards. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:37 - Aug 5 with 9557 views | Guthrum |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:28 - Aug 5 by Kieran_Knows |
Waggott & Suhail being Waggott & Suhail.
We know all this from January and Gallagher. |
This'll end up being like Hirst, who we pursued all summer, finally got on loan in January and signed the following year. |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:39 - Aug 5 with 9467 views | ITFCBlues |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |
Surely we just move on then. They're clearly impossible to deal with |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:40 - Aug 5 with 9411 views | HighgateBlue |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:31 - Aug 5 by Europablue |
Unless it is about the fee structure, then as soon as the other party does something like that, you can't trust them enough and have to walk away from the deal. |
I have some sympathy with this view, but at the same time, nobody actually seems to know any detail. Who was it that indicated to whom that Blackburn were likely to accept £x? If it was Blackburn themselves who indicated it, then surely that's just a counter offer (subject to contract). If it was some intermediary, member of staff who didn't have authority but liked the sound of their own voice, or liked briefing to journalists, then it may very well not be Blackburn's management's fault.
We want to buy SS, Blackburn don't want to sell him. We've been in that situation as the selling club many times, and we always want our management to resist selling, or to sell for as much as possible. That's surely what Blackburn are doing here, unless we have actual detailed information to demonstrate that they have messed us around. If they have, I agree with you. Next target... |  | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:52 - Aug 5 with 9091 views | OldFart71 |
Might be wrong, but believe we offered 8 m plus add on's taking it to 10 mill and they want 20 million, which if true is absurd. Absolutely no way he will score 30 odd goals in the Prem and isn't he around 27 years of age ? Think you need a player who you can give a minimum of 3 years and at 20 million even four years. McKenna has said there's other negotiations going on. Hopefully one's that encompass Ssmodics position so we can tell them where to go if it's deemed they want too much and doesn't leave us enough time to sort out an alternative. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:53 - Aug 5 with 9067 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:40 - Aug 5 by HighgateBlue |
I have some sympathy with this view, but at the same time, nobody actually seems to know any detail. Who was it that indicated to whom that Blackburn were likely to accept £x? If it was Blackburn themselves who indicated it, then surely that's just a counter offer (subject to contract). If it was some intermediary, member of staff who didn't have authority but liked the sound of their own voice, or liked briefing to journalists, then it may very well not be Blackburn's management's fault.
We want to buy SS, Blackburn don't want to sell him. We've been in that situation as the selling club many times, and we always want our management to resist selling, or to sell for as much as possible. That's surely what Blackburn are doing here, unless we have actual detailed information to demonstrate that they have messed us around. If they have, I agree with you. Next target... |
I think they do want to sell him though. They've left him out of their last four pre season games so obviously want to cash in. He's absolutely desperate to move and for all the posturing by Eustace, him staying there isn't really an option. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:56 - Aug 5 with 8888 views | ArchiRob |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:24 - Aug 5 by PhilTWTD |
I don't see how anyone can tell whether that's the case as Blackburn keep moving the goalposts. The fee we offered last was what was indicated they would accept and yet they turned it down. |
Amazed the player still has his toys in the pram - this is surely his last chance to play in the premiership and in front of his whole family? Hope we have nothing to do with Blackburn following the last two transfer saga's |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:58 - Aug 5 with 8800 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:56 - Aug 5 by ArchiRob |
Amazed the player still has his toys in the pram - this is surely his last chance to play in the premiership and in front of his whole family? Hope we have nothing to do with Blackburn following the last two transfer saga's |
He's made his feelings well known and very clear to the Blackburn hierarchy. | |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:00 - Aug 5 with 8735 views | Guthrum |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:39 - Aug 5 by ITFCBlues |
Surely we just move on then. They're clearly impossible to deal with |
The problem with "moving on" is we're trying to sign a certain type and level of player. The first choice target is obviously going to have more of those qualities than the second and third options. Abandoning the pursuit while there is still a possibility of success means accepting someone not quite so good. | |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:05 - Aug 5 with 8546 views | ArnieM |
We’re wasting valuable time trying to strike a deal with this basket case club. We won’t get the player because they want £20m, which is a ridiculous fee. I hope we walk away now snd try and get in another player. Time is now very short, and whatever players we do bring in will have had zero pre season with us and zero time to blend in with the squad. |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:12 - Aug 5 with 8312 views | Europablue |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:40 - Aug 5 by HighgateBlue |
I have some sympathy with this view, but at the same time, nobody actually seems to know any detail. Who was it that indicated to whom that Blackburn were likely to accept £x? If it was Blackburn themselves who indicated it, then surely that's just a counter offer (subject to contract). If it was some intermediary, member of staff who didn't have authority but liked the sound of their own voice, or liked briefing to journalists, then it may very well not be Blackburn's management's fault.
We want to buy SS, Blackburn don't want to sell him. We've been in that situation as the selling club many times, and we always want our management to resist selling, or to sell for as much as possible. That's surely what Blackburn are doing here, unless we have actual detailed information to demonstrate that they have messed us around. If they have, I agree with you. Next target... |
I agree with everything you say. The other party are not always to blame, but on the balance of things over more than this potential transfer, I believe that Blackburn are messing us around.
The key point is that we are just speculating.
I personally really want us to bring in Szmodics, but not at any cost. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:15 - Aug 5 with 8258 views | Europablue |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:05 - Aug 5 by ArnieM |
We’re wasting valuable time trying to strike a deal with this basket case club. We won’t get the player because they want £20m, which is a ridiculous fee. I hope we walk away now snd try and get in another player. Time is now very short, and whatever players we do bring in will have had zero pre season with us and zero time to blend in with the squad. |
Your point is valid, but only for one player and one position. No other transfer is impeded significantly by this transfer saga. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:18 - Aug 5 with 8146 views | HighgateBlue |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:35 - Aug 5 by tractorboy1978 |
I am amazed he signed that new deal in January with no release clause in his favour. He held all the cards. |
His previous deal lasted until 2025. Why would Blackburn sign a new deal with him with the objective of tying him down for longer, and at the same time agree a release clause that can allow him to walk away in 2024 for less than they value him at? That would make no sense.
He would have held all the cards if his previous deal only ran until 2024, but that was not the position.
It may well be that there IS a release clause in his now current deal. None of us knows, and to act like we have inside knowledge is silly. But if there is a release clause, to expect it to be for peanuts is unrealistic. As I say, Blackburn would have had no incentive to agree such a clause. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:22 - Aug 5 with 8040 views | mutters |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:56 - Aug 5 by ArchiRob |
Amazed the player still has his toys in the pram - this is surely his last chance to play in the premiership and in front of his whole family? Hope we have nothing to do with Blackburn following the last two transfer saga's |
It does depend on what side of the argument you are on.
He has made his position clear, he wants to move however I can see why Blackburn is digging their heels in on a very good Championship player who only recently was happy to get improved terms with the club
SOme people would say that he signed a contract recently and that he should honour his contract. I wonder if that's why he is not making such a public song and dance about it. |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:24 - Aug 5 with 7983 views | Kievthegreat |
I feel like Blackburn may have backed themselves into a corner. They've publicly slapped a £20m price tag on SS. If they had absolutely zero intention of selling, that would be fine because it's too high for any sensible club to pay and sends a good message to their fans.
If they sell him though (and leaving him out of sides suggests they may), then they need to get close to their public valuation or they will look to their fan base like we've had their trousers down. |  | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:24 - Aug 5 with 7976 views | PhilTWTD |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 10:56 - Aug 5 by ArchiRob |
Amazed the player still has his toys in the pram - this is surely his last chance to play in the premiership and in front of his whole family? Hope we have nothing to do with Blackburn following the last two transfer saga's |
I think he's made his thoughts very clear. Also get the impression John Eustace wants the situation moved on. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:26 - Aug 5 with 7907 views | SitfcB |
The same Watson that said we weren’t ever interested in Szmodics? |  |
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| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:30 - Aug 5 with 7769 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:18 - Aug 5 by HighgateBlue |
His previous deal lasted until 2025. Why would Blackburn sign a new deal with him with the objective of tying him down for longer, and at the same time agree a release clause that can allow him to walk away in 2024 for less than they value him at? That would make no sense.
He would have held all the cards if his previous deal only ran until 2024, but that was not the position.
It may well be that there IS a release clause in his now current deal. None of us knows, and to act like we have inside knowledge is silly. But if there is a release clause, to expect it to be for peanuts is unrealistic. As I say, Blackburn would have had no incentive to agree such a clause. |
He had little incentive or need to sign that new deal in January though. Blackburn were bang in a relegation fight and he had interest from us and Luton. Might have got a few quid more for 6 months but pales into insignificance in the context of the move he is line for this summer.
I never said peanuts. There obviously wasn't any sensible clause in the deal though or we wouldn't even be having this conversation. | | | |
| Watson reckons we are 'a long way apart' on valuation for Szmodics on 11:30 - Aug 5 with 7751 views | GavTWTD |
I'm really not in the know but shirley the only thing we do know is that we're not "a long way apart" as we would have walked away if that was the case. I would absolutely love him to play for us this season but yes this is dragging on too long. Can only assume he's our first choice for his position but also working on Plan Bs. Must see some movement this week you'd think! |  |
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