| Brighton tickets sold out on 15+ then 11:10 - Aug 22 with 7441 views | SitfcB |
Whatever was left went pretty quickly, within 5 minutes I think.
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| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 16:35 - Aug 22 with 1653 views | bluelagos |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 15:04 - Aug 22 by NeedhamChris |
I think a fairer solution would have been a different split for the ballot. 5% feels a bit tokenistic and not quite the impression that was given as people were being encouraged to buy the memberships.
Somewhere between 15-20% for the ballot (10% absolute minimum) might have been a better balance. |
I think 300 for the ballot would have been widely supported. Big enough for fans to have a realistic chance of getting one and preventing the "closed shop" that is evolving. |  |
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| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 16:43 - Aug 22 with 1579 views | Dennyx4 |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 16:31 - Aug 22 by Bex75 |
Yes, 5% may seem a fair amount but when you look at it in numbers even in the top capacity, 5% of 3000 is actually only 150 tickets. Also as my dad and son need to be accompanied, we have to apply as a group. My impression was that if you apply as a group and one of you get drawn out of the ballot, then the rest of the group go too but have been informed that might not be right and all three of us would have to be drawn out or none of us go??
I may be wrong, but if this is the case, then if you apply as a group you are even less likely to get a ballot ticket. [Post edited 22 Aug 2024 16:34]
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Believe it was only 2% for the Man City game = 60 tickets.
You can apply as a group in the ballot and if successful you would get the number applied for. |  | | |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 17:43 - Aug 22 with 1480 views | tommcd |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 16:35 - Aug 22 by bluelagos |
I think 300 for the ballot would have been widely supported. Big enough for fans to have a realistic chance of getting one and preventing the "closed shop" that is evolving. |
Taking into account the difference between Chamionship and Premier League away allocations (1500-2000 vs 3000), I think holding 20% (600 in most cases) back for a ballot would still be reasonable. It's still an increase of 400-800 extra tickets available to high-points members, so those that attended a reasonable number of matches last season could still expect to go to a similar number of matches this season without having to jump through too many hoops, but the ballot end of the scale allows those with lower points a real chance to start the climb (vs the current volumes which are not much more than a token gesture).
With the ballot at such a low number, it becomes a self-fulfilling closed-shop: Those with enough points to get tickets will buy them regardless of whether they will actually attend (passing the tickets on if needed) to protect their points tallies, knowing full well if they drop out of the top tiers there's sweet FA chance of ever getting back up there. Getting a ticket as a lower-point member becomes about knowing friends with high points-counts, and you can write off ever accruing your own points.
Maybe I'm over-estimating the impact of 'points hoarding', but I could see the Club dramatically increasing the number of tickets requiring match-day proof of ID for collection to counter it.
It would be interesting to see next season (if we stay up etc), how much of hit membership numbers take if nothing changes. If you've bought a membership for the primary purpose of helping you get to away matches, and you're not already 20+ at the start of next season, it appears there will be very little point wasting £40... [Post edited 22 Aug 2024 17:45]
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| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 18:23 - Aug 22 with 1399 views | Stu_boy |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 17:43 - Aug 22 by tommcd |
Taking into account the difference between Chamionship and Premier League away allocations (1500-2000 vs 3000), I think holding 20% (600 in most cases) back for a ballot would still be reasonable. It's still an increase of 400-800 extra tickets available to high-points members, so those that attended a reasonable number of matches last season could still expect to go to a similar number of matches this season without having to jump through too many hoops, but the ballot end of the scale allows those with lower points a real chance to start the climb (vs the current volumes which are not much more than a token gesture).
With the ballot at such a low number, it becomes a self-fulfilling closed-shop: Those with enough points to get tickets will buy them regardless of whether they will actually attend (passing the tickets on if needed) to protect their points tallies, knowing full well if they drop out of the top tiers there's sweet FA chance of ever getting back up there. Getting a ticket as a lower-point member becomes about knowing friends with high points-counts, and you can write off ever accruing your own points.
Maybe I'm over-estimating the impact of 'points hoarding', but I could see the Club dramatically increasing the number of tickets requiring match-day proof of ID for collection to counter it.
It would be interesting to see next season (if we stay up etc), how much of hit membership numbers take if nothing changes. If you've bought a membership for the primary purpose of helping you get to away matches, and you're not already 20+ at the start of next season, it appears there will be very little point wasting £40... [Post edited 22 Aug 2024 17:45]
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However, if they held back several hundred for a ballot open to everyone then that would have meant selling out at 20+ penalising those on 15+ which again is wrong as those on 15+ would have gone to potentially between 5 and 9 away games last season suddenly losing their chance of a ticket to those that only went to 1 or 2 |  | | |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 19:03 - Aug 22 with 1318 views | Bex75 |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 17:43 - Aug 22 by tommcd |
Taking into account the difference between Chamionship and Premier League away allocations (1500-2000 vs 3000), I think holding 20% (600 in most cases) back for a ballot would still be reasonable. It's still an increase of 400-800 extra tickets available to high-points members, so those that attended a reasonable number of matches last season could still expect to go to a similar number of matches this season without having to jump through too many hoops, but the ballot end of the scale allows those with lower points a real chance to start the climb (vs the current volumes which are not much more than a token gesture).
With the ballot at such a low number, it becomes a self-fulfilling closed-shop: Those with enough points to get tickets will buy them regardless of whether they will actually attend (passing the tickets on if needed) to protect their points tallies, knowing full well if they drop out of the top tiers there's sweet FA chance of ever getting back up there. Getting a ticket as a lower-point member becomes about knowing friends with high points-counts, and you can write off ever accruing your own points.
Maybe I'm over-estimating the impact of 'points hoarding', but I could see the Club dramatically increasing the number of tickets requiring match-day proof of ID for collection to counter it.
It would be interesting to see next season (if we stay up etc), how much of hit membership numbers take if nothing changes. If you've bought a membership for the primary purpose of helping you get to away matches, and you're not already 20+ at the start of next season, it appears there will be very little point wasting £40... [Post edited 22 Aug 2024 17:45]
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These are all reasonable suggestions that any fan with access to the powers that are at ITFC should certainly put forward.
Even if someone didn't get in as they had no match day proof, it's still prevented someone else in a lower tier getting the ticket (at least in the early days of such a scheme) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that the away point they would get from that game would then be struck off their tally if the ID didn't match? If not, there is no deterrent and it wouldn't change point hoarding.
And there would be the occasional legit reason of someone falling ill or something after the return ticket/refund deadline and therefore passing the ticket to a friend. | | | |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 19:11 - Aug 22 with 1284 views | Bex75 |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 16:43 - Aug 22 by Dennyx4 |
Believe it was only 2% for the Man City game = 60 tickets.
You can apply as a group in the ballot and if successful you would get the number applied for. |
Yes I thought it was only 60 tickets but someone mentioned 5% and I got confused. Even got my calculator out cause I knew 60 wasnt 5% of 3K 🤦🏽
I was sure that the group ballot must be if one got a ticket the others would automatically get one too. Otherwise that would just be outright mean and we'd never stand a chance! 😂 | | | |
| Brighton tickets sold out on 15+ then on 19:14 - Aug 22 with 1282 views | skinnybob72 |
Forgot Wimbledon went on sale today - looking at the seats left I reckon it'll sell out at 20+. That was a game I thought might get quite low even with the smaller allocation.
Not sure how well supported the Dons are but looked at their site and there appear to be only 18 seats available in the home end. | | | |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 19:44 - Aug 22 with 1225 views | ParisBlue |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 17:43 - Aug 22 by tommcd |
Taking into account the difference between Chamionship and Premier League away allocations (1500-2000 vs 3000), I think holding 20% (600 in most cases) back for a ballot would still be reasonable. It's still an increase of 400-800 extra tickets available to high-points members, so those that attended a reasonable number of matches last season could still expect to go to a similar number of matches this season without having to jump through too many hoops, but the ballot end of the scale allows those with lower points a real chance to start the climb (vs the current volumes which are not much more than a token gesture).
With the ballot at such a low number, it becomes a self-fulfilling closed-shop: Those with enough points to get tickets will buy them regardless of whether they will actually attend (passing the tickets on if needed) to protect their points tallies, knowing full well if they drop out of the top tiers there's sweet FA chance of ever getting back up there. Getting a ticket as a lower-point member becomes about knowing friends with high points-counts, and you can write off ever accruing your own points.
Maybe I'm over-estimating the impact of 'points hoarding', but I could see the Club dramatically increasing the number of tickets requiring match-day proof of ID for collection to counter it.
It would be interesting to see next season (if we stay up etc), how much of hit membership numbers take if nothing changes. If you've bought a membership for the primary purpose of helping you get to away matches, and you're not already 20+ at the start of next season, it appears there will be very little point wasting £40... [Post edited 22 Aug 2024 17:45]
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Interesting next year either way, we could potentially start with 2.5k at 25+ and capacities of 2k if back un the Championship.
You need to reward regular attendance but I don't think there should be a guarantee. I'm thinking the different levels at the start of the season should give you priority for a specified number of games (and then general sale priority with a wider spread).
Will be interesting how Brentford pans out in a few weeks. |  |
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| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 21:21 - Aug 22 with 1083 views | colchesterblue |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 19:44 - Aug 22 by ParisBlue |
Interesting next year either way, we could potentially start with 2.5k at 25+ and capacities of 2k if back un the Championship.
You need to reward regular attendance but I don't think there should be a guarantee. I'm thinking the different levels at the start of the season should give you priority for a specified number of games (and then general sale priority with a wider spread).
Will be interesting how Brentford pans out in a few weeks. |
I agree that loyalty should definitely be rewarded, but it seems very much like a closed shop now, with not much chance of ever increasing points.
I’m a member of the England Supporters Travel club, and in my opinion they have a fair system for prioritising for away games. 70% go to the top cappers and they automatically qualify for a ticket if they apply, which leaves 30% goes to a ballot. I’m not saying as much as 30% should go to a ballot in this case, but 20% would give people a chance to at least. | | | |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 21:24 - Aug 22 with 1070 views | nodge_blue |
| Brighton (and the rest of the season's away tickets) sold out on 15+ then ?? on 16:31 - Aug 22 by Bex75 |
Yes, 5% may seem a fair amount but when you look at it in numbers even in the top capacity, 5% of 3000 is actually only 150 tickets. Also as my dad and son need to be accompanied, we have to apply as a group. My impression was that if you apply as a group and one of you get drawn out of the ballot, then the rest of the group go too but have been informed that might not be right and all three of us would have to be drawn out or none of us go??
I may be wrong, but if this is the case, then if you apply as a group you are even less likely to get a ballot ticket. [Post edited 22 Aug 2024 16:34]
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I believe its 2%? |  |
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| Brighton tickets sold out on 15+ then on 23:14 - Aug 22 with 924 views | tractorshark |
To be honest, I don’t think the club could have done it much fairer in my opinion.
And I speak as someone who doesn’t have a season ticket, lives 100 miles away and has always done an equal amount of home and away games for the past 30 odd years.
Last season was the first time I did more homes than aways simply because I didn’t have enough points to get tickets for certain away matches.
It’s taken a bit of time but I’ve come to accept whatever the club does with the priority system won’t please everyone.
And almost everyone who comments about making changes to the policy has an agenda that suits them better. And there’s nothing wrong with that because I appreciate the frustration.
But if you change it too much, you’ll create a storm with people in the higher brackets and they quite rightly will say they’ve proved their loyalty by putting their money where their mouth is.
Yes there are a lot of glory hunters in the fanbase now and, believe me, I’d love the club to go back further in time with their loyalty points but it’s an impossible situation for them and this is probably as fair as it gets.
At some point the line has to be drawn and it will suit some and not others.
The only thing I’d like to see stamped out is people buying tickets in the higher brackets and then passing them on to others.
That will only punish those in the lower brackets further and if you’ve got 25+ points, you can afford to miss the odd game and still not damage your position of priority.
The rules may not be perfect for all but let’s at least be fair to all.
Whether membership numbers will drop next season remains to be seen and will no doubt depend on whether we stay up.
But, remember, being a member isn’t just about away days. If you don’t have membership, you are unlikely to get to a home game as well. | | | |
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