| How on Earth 22:08 - Sep 14 with 6529 views | JimmyJazz |
Is Last Night of the Proms still allowed in 2024, let alone getting airtime from the BBC?
It's like if Germany had re-enactments of Hitler rallies which in turn get national German television coverage |  |
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| How on Earth on 09:10 - Sep 15 with 1538 views | DJR |
I hadn't seen Last Night of the Proms for over 40 years, but watched it last night and really enjoyed it.
I'm as woke as they come but the Last Night of the Proms is really rather tongue in cheek and a chance for Prom-goers to let their hair down.
In my view, it is anything but jingoistic, as evidenced by the number of EU flags, something that the right wing press really takes umbrage at.
And whether or not some of the words are a bit dated, they are cracking and stirring musical pieces. [Post edited 15 Sep 2024 9:12]
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| How on Earth on 09:48 - Sep 15 with 1459 views | bluejacko |
So in 2024 the OP has still not mastered his TV controls🙄😂 |  | | |
| How on Earth on 09:52 - Sep 15 with 1452 views | noggin |
I wouldn't mind if Britain actually did rule the waves. They should change the words to reflect being outsmarted by people smugglers and foreign fishermen. |  |
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| How on Earth on 10:08 - Sep 15 with 1416 views | Ryorry |
| How on Earth on 04:37 - Sep 15 by Mercian |
I have no problem with it from an ethical point of view. I do think it highlights that British composers from the classical period were not a patch on some of their continental counterparts. |
"I do think it highlights that British composers from the classical period were not a patch on some of their continental counterparts."
Another rather silly comment -
"Classical" music is a genre, like folk music or jazz are genres - it doesn't relate only to one period or even one culture - eg.Indian classical music. The Western classical tradition has been developing continuously from medieval times through to today.
If you mean the German classical era (the Bachs, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms etc). that developed with more modern instruments/orchestras, esp the piano - even then, to say that British composers like Parry, Delius, Elgar & Vaughan Williams "aren't a patch on" them is a daft comparison - the Brits just compose differently & beautifully, in 'the English tradition', rather than in the Germanic school. |  |
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| How on Earth on 10:30 - Sep 15 with 1407 views | Ryorry |
| How on Earth on 01:25 - Sep 15 by JimmyJazz |
I take your point on other compositions and songs, I have to say I always associate Last Night.... with those 2 songs as they save them until toward the end when I 'm looking for Match of the Day - because those seem to be the favourites that everyone is waiting for, and it's those i take umbrage with.
Any wokies, admitting to being comfortable with those 2 songs would probably get their woke membership cards torn up and face being banished. |
Then you haven't learned from previous experience that TLNOTP almost always over-runs its timeslot so ensuing progs run late ...
Btw, must pick you up on another comment in your OP - "let alone getting airtime from the BBC?"
The Proms wouldn't exist today if it hadn't been for the BBC picking up the baton (so to speak) by funding & broadcasting them from about 1927 onwards. The absolutely massive contribution the Beeb has made to the musical life of the UK cannot be stressed enough - supporting & encouraging musicians, singers, orchestras, choruses etc. in all genres from grass-roots up to professional level. Particularly with the 21stC "austerity" tory govts. withdrawal of funding (including music & other arts in schools ffs), I reckon we should all be thankful that BBC still cares about & supports UK music & musicians. | |
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| How on Earth on 10:31 - Sep 15 with 1402 views | Freddies_Ears |
| How on Earth on 23:01 - Sep 14 by Churchman |
With regard to Rule Britannia, it depends on your interpretation of something written getting on for 300 years ago for King George 1st.
When all is said and done, they’re just songs, most of them dating back a heck of a time to be ignored or enjoyed.
As for the composition of the Proms’ audiences, I wouldn’t know not having attended one. |
I have been to a couple of Last Nights. At least the audience sing the proper words for Rule Britannia, "Britannia, rule the waves", which is an exhortation rather than a proclamation. The "never shall be slaves" bit doesn't sit all that well with woke me though. | | | |
| How on Earth on 12:02 - Sep 15 with 1306 views | JimmyJazz |
| How on Earth on 10:30 - Sep 15 by Ryorry |
Then you haven't learned from previous experience that TLNOTP almost always over-runs its timeslot so ensuing progs run late ...
Btw, must pick you up on another comment in your OP - "let alone getting airtime from the BBC?"
The Proms wouldn't exist today if it hadn't been for the BBC picking up the baton (so to speak) by funding & broadcasting them from about 1927 onwards. The absolutely massive contribution the Beeb has made to the musical life of the UK cannot be stressed enough - supporting & encouraging musicians, singers, orchestras, choruses etc. in all genres from grass-roots up to professional level. Particularly with the 21stC "austerity" tory govts. withdrawal of funding (including music & other arts in schools ffs), I reckon we should all be thankful that BBC still cares about & supports UK music & musicians. |
Yes, it does always over-run. I haven't watched MOTD for a few years now and obviously started again this season, so was a little surprised to see that Last Night... was still a thing | |
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| How on Earth on 13:17 - Sep 15 with 1263 views | baxterbasics |
What do you mean how is it still allowed?
You think musicians and public shouldn't be allowed to gather and play and sing what they like?
Hmm. |  |
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| How on Earth on 13:54 - Sep 15 with 1225 views | Benters |
| How on Earth on 09:52 - Sep 15 by noggin |
I wouldn't mind if Britain actually did rule the waves. They should change the words to reflect being outsmarted by people smugglers and foreign fishermen. |
I can imagine you sitting there clapping away happy about that. |  |
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| How on Earth on 14:51 - Sep 15 with 1172 views | noggin |
| How on Earth on 13:54 - Sep 15 by Benters |
I can imagine you sitting there clapping away happy about that. |
Don't worry benters, brexit will stop all that 🙄 Oh.... | |
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| How on Earth on 17:22 - Sep 15 with 1077 views | wischip |
I say something similar about Strictly. Year after year it takes over the BBC. Even when you don't watch the programme, the judges, contestants and dancers turn up on other programmes saying the same old cliches every year. They even crowbar them into breakfast news, in case you missed it the previous night. I missed it for a reason, BBC, I'm not interested, FFS! |  | | |
| How on Earth on 18:31 - Sep 15 with 1038 views | Swansea_Blue |
| How on Earth on 02:03 - Sep 15 by Illinoisblue |
You can’t just lob a hand grenade in like that and not explain why. Besides, that bit where the crowd all bob up and down is iconic. |
One man’s iconic is another’s looking like tvvats 😂.
Each to their own though and it’s no different to all the other quirky traditions we have, is it? Plus it’s a lovely concert hall. |  |
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| How on Earth on 18:35 - Sep 15 with 1026 views | Swansea_Blue |
| How on Earth on 17:22 - Sep 15 by wischip |
I say something similar about Strictly. Year after year it takes over the BBC. Even when you don't watch the programme, the judges, contestants and dancers turn up on other programmes saying the same old cliches every year. They even crowbar them into breakfast news, in case you missed it the previous night. I missed it for a reason, BBC, I'm not interested, FFS! |
So who’s your favourite to win this year?  | |
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| How on Earth on 19:03 - Sep 15 with 977 views | VanSaParody |
| How on Earth on 23:11 - Sep 14 by Ryorry |
Indeed - re the second, it's in the title - Elgar's 'Pomp & Circumstance March no.1' - used at the coronation of Edward VII.
Also in the second half of the programme tonight, a new composition by Iain Farrington based on sporting themes including MotD -
Extra Time(4 mins)'
Henry Mancini
The Pink Panther(3 mins)
In His Hands: Two Spirituals(4 mins)
Songs by Spanish & Italian composers.
And as well as England & Union Jack flags waved by the audience there were too many EU flags to count, plus others from around the world. [Post edited 14 Sep 2024 23:16]
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I hope they're keeping a count of those handing out EU flags outside the venue, so they'll know how many @rseholes it takes to fill the Albert Hall |  | | |
| How on Earth on 07:45 - Sep 16 with 833 views | noggin |
| How on Earth on 19:03 - Sep 15 by VanSaParody |
I hope they're keeping a count of those handing out EU flags outside the venue, so they'll know how many @rseholes it takes to fill the Albert Hall |
Send them all to Rwanda. | |
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| How on Earth on 14:36 - Sep 16 with 707 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| How on Earth on 19:03 - Sep 15 by VanSaParody |
I hope they're keeping a count of those handing out EU flags outside the venue, so they'll know how many @rseholes it takes to fill the Albert Hall |
Yeah because Brexit's worked out so well... |  |
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