| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets 12:16 - Oct 7 with 5207 views | mickymills |
Has anybody else noticed that this has gone from being a nuisance ie people queuing up to smoke in the cubicle; to being rife.
At the Villa game, many fans simply stood in the middle of the mens toilet area openly smoking.
I consider myself to be fairly tolerant of most things, but I don't want to breathe in others' smoke and the ceilings are very low in there.
I've spoken to stewards, but they don't seem to be interested in what would obviously be a confrontation. |  | | |  |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:29 - Oct 7 with 4275 views | cookra |
at least it masks the smell of pishh
im a non smoker but previsions should be made for smokers , if not you get this kind of behaviour and i dont have an issue with it |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:30 - Oct 7 with 4263 views | Steve_M |
Given the constrained access to those toilets as well, it's increasingly difficult to use at half-time. Just more entitled, dickish behaviour from some fans. |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:32 - Oct 7 with 4245 views | Reuser_is_God |
Not sure they’re going in the cubicle to smoke, or piss for that matter… |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:36 - Oct 7 with 4187 views | WestSussexBlue |
It’s also illegal, a compromise to fan safety and down right disrespectful especially to our younger fans who have to breathe in other people’s smoke or vape cloud.
I’d by pass the stewards to be honest and inform the club directly. | | | |
| On Saturday they had the dogs out…. on 12:43 - Oct 7 with 4125 views | Bloots |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:32 - Oct 7 by Reuser_is_God |
Not sure they’re going in the cubicle to smoke, or piss for that matter… |
….I saw 2 Ipswich lads in our queue get stopped in the way in, but at half time there was still more people queuing up for a dump than was queuing for a piss.
Must be a bug going round I guess. |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:52 - Oct 7 with 4006 views | SitfcB |
Always said it and never understood why it’s not been done but don’t know why the doors can’t be opened and have a cordoned off area outside for people to smoke/drink outside in plenty of space which would relieve the concourse area as well.
It happens at loads of grounds up and down the country. |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:29 - Oct 7 with 3730 views | MrPorterloo |
You should write to the club, they may genuinely be unaware. | | | |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:32 - Oct 7 with 3713 views | giant_stow |
Won't be a popular opinion, but if you treat people unreasonably, then they'll behave unreasonably. Smokers just need a little corner set aside in an outdoor area - no more problem. |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:41 - Oct 7 with 3620 views | Steve_M |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:32 - Oct 7 by giant_stow |
Won't be a popular opinion, but if you treat people unreasonably, then they'll behave unreasonably. Smokers just need a little corner set aside in an outdoor area - no more problem. |
If Norwich don't go up this season, then they'll probably let you have a smoke under that old stand.... | |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:41 - Oct 7 with 3613 views | Zx1988 |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:29 - Oct 7 by MrPorterloo |
You should write to the club, they may genuinely be unaware. |
I'd second this.
Your belief that the stewards don't want to deal with the confrontation/aggro is also a little concerning. Their primary job is to deal with challenging behaviour and, as a result, risk ending up in confrontational situations. If they are too worried about confrontation to do their job, surely there's an argument that they're not cut out to be stewards? | |
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| On Saturday they had the dogs out…. on 13:44 - Oct 7 with 3558 views | Leaky |
| On Saturday they had the dogs out…. on 12:43 - Oct 7 by Bloots |
….I saw 2 Ipswich lads in our queue get stopped in the way in, but at half time there was still more people queuing up for a dump than was queuing for a piss.
Must be a bug going round I guess. |
Yep or Colombian marching powder |  | | |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:45 - Oct 7 with 3553 views | giant_stow |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:41 - Oct 7 by Steve_M |
If Norwich don't go up this season, then they'll probably let you have a smoke under that old stand.... |
haha!!
I'm surprised things haven't gone to sh1t already this season - was expecting the worst. Seems like there's hope at least. [Post edited 7 Oct 2024 13:49]
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:50 - Oct 7 with 3498 views | hype313 |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:41 - Oct 7 by Zx1988 |
I'd second this.
Your belief that the stewards don't want to deal with the confrontation/aggro is also a little concerning. Their primary job is to deal with challenging behaviour and, as a result, risk ending up in confrontational situations. If they are too worried about confrontation to do their job, surely there's an argument that they're not cut out to be stewards? |
Would you want to confront a load of Boozed/Coked up fans for having a smoke for a tenner an hour? |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:11 - Oct 7 with 3392 views | Zx1988 |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:50 - Oct 7 by hype313 |
Would you want to confront a load of Boozed/Coked up fans for having a smoke for a tenner an hour? |
I agree with you on that point as well.
It's an utterly thankless task, and woefully underpaid for what it entails if/when the proverbial hits the fan.
You need the right sort of people doing the job but, at the same time, you need to pay the right wages if you're not attracting the right people. | |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:11 - Oct 7 with 3392 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:41 - Oct 7 by Zx1988 |
I'd second this.
Your belief that the stewards don't want to deal with the confrontation/aggro is also a little concerning. Their primary job is to deal with challenging behaviour and, as a result, risk ending up in confrontational situations. If they are too worried about confrontation to do their job, surely there's an argument that they're not cut out to be stewards? |
If that's their primary job, then the security company that recruit them as temps probably need to stop offering the role to 18 year olds on minimum wage. |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:12 - Oct 7 with 3383 views | JimmyJazz |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:45 - Oct 7 by giant_stow |
haha!!
I'm surprised things haven't gone to sh1t already this season - was expecting the worst. Seems like there's hope at least. [Post edited 7 Oct 2024 13:49]
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You might actually have a decent manager |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:18 - Oct 7 with 3343 views | WeirdFishes |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 12:52 - Oct 7 by SitfcB |
Always said it and never understood why it’s not been done but don’t know why the doors can’t be opened and have a cordoned off area outside for people to smoke/drink outside in plenty of space which would relieve the concourse area as well.
It happens at loads of grounds up and down the country. |
Always wondered why they don’t have an outdoor bit, even install a small beer stand to relieve the pressure in the concourse. Like you say most away grounds have this. |  |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:19 - Oct 7 with 3333 views | giant_stow |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:12 - Oct 7 by JimmyJazz |
You might actually have a decent manager |
Looking like he may just be that, yeah. | |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:28 - Oct 7 with 3272 views | witchdoctor |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:11 - Oct 7 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If that's their primary job, then the security company that recruit them as temps probably need to stop offering the role to 18 year olds on minimum wage. |
I thought the stewards inside the stadium were..in the main…employed directly by the club and not an agency.. |  | | |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:42 - Oct 7 with 3118 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:28 - Oct 7 by witchdoctor |
I thought the stewards inside the stadium were..in the main…employed directly by the club and not an agency.. |
Think its largely a mix of both. | |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:56 - Oct 7 with 3004 views | jonbull88 |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:18 - Oct 7 by WeirdFishes |
Always wondered why they don’t have an outdoor bit, even install a small beer stand to relieve the pressure in the concourse. Like you say most away grounds have this. |
My guess is security. The last ground went to personally that allowed fans out for a puff was Derby several years ago. If you have an outside area, how big would it be? Would it be 1 in 1 out? Or would you get the queue like for the bogs as someone is outside chaining all half time. The extra security needed on each point would be an added headache as they’ve got to stop people getting in as much. As a ex smoker who enjoyed a half time ciggy before it was banned, I understand why people want one, but also wish they’d consider others. | | | |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:59 - Oct 7 with 2978 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 13:32 - Oct 7 by giant_stow |
Won't be a popular opinion, but if you treat people unreasonably, then they'll behave unreasonably. Smokers just need a little corner set aside in an outdoor area - no more problem. |
Or just give your lungs a rest for an hour or two. It is hardly an imposition or a breach of basic human rights. [Post edited 7 Oct 2024 15:04]
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 15:12 - Oct 7 with 2882 views | Blueschev |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:18 - Oct 7 by WeirdFishes |
Always wondered why they don’t have an outdoor bit, even install a small beer stand to relieve the pressure in the concourse. Like you say most away grounds have this. |
Years back I had my season ticket in the Cobbold upper and they used to open the gate at half time so people could use the burger van. Oddly they stopped doing it just after the smoking ban was introduced. |  | | |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 15:36 - Oct 7 with 2742 views | giant_stow |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:59 - Oct 7 by tractorboy1978 |
Or just give your lungs a rest for an hour or two. It is hardly an imposition or a breach of basic human rights. [Post edited 7 Oct 2024 15:04]
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No its certainly not about basic human rights! More just a live and let live tolerance. Afterall, a lot of folk like a beer with a game - others find alcohol smelly and drunks obnoxious - how would you feel about a booze ban in stadiums? That wouldn't be a human rights thing either, but would be pretty unkind. I can't see the problem with setting aside some outdoor space for smokers - it would negatively affect no one. | |
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| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 15:41 - Oct 7 with 2707 views | SitfcB |
| Smoking in SBR Lower toilets on 14:56 - Oct 7 by jonbull88 |
My guess is security. The last ground went to personally that allowed fans out for a puff was Derby several years ago. If you have an outside area, how big would it be? Would it be 1 in 1 out? Or would you get the queue like for the bogs as someone is outside chaining all half time. The extra security needed on each point would be an added headache as they’ve got to stop people getting in as much. As a ex smoker who enjoyed a half time ciggy before it was banned, I understand why people want one, but also wish they’d consider others. |
It’s not difficult, you open one set of doors and have a good sized pen made out with barriers and a steward on each corner, Heras fencing the best bet. | |
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