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As per the tweet made by someone. It's a good view which does indeed show that neither cb had a chance of heading it.
I have to ask an ex gks here. Why is muric looking at the Brentford player ahead of him rather than the ball...
Genuine question that one as it might be something normal in that situation which may look odd looking at it from the outside but as a keeper completely normal.
That was quite long winded without an answer to my question. I don't care personally about what you think if my posts. If they fall into a certain category then the owners will let me know. I also have posted less about certain players than some other users so I'm comfortable that I'm not falling into the vendetta rubbish.
Also my OP isn't a swipe at muric either. And neither was the one the other day too.
However my actual question was just on your post to the other poster about it being a knee jerk reaction. It's just asking how many games can pass before something is no longer a knee jerk reaction. Forget Muric. Im just interested in how many games can pass for posters to form opinions that aren't seen as knee jerk reactions.
[Post edited 29 Oct 2024 13:31]
I would say your reply is more long-winded than mine and you've also confused posters, as I didn't make that comment (and clearly stated I believe you're entitled to voice your opinion). It may be negative bias on my part but my impression is you're into the dozens of anti-Muric posts now since the weekend and are pretty much regurgitating earlier thoughts ad nauseum, which is what annoys other forum users, but I appreciate that you don't care what people think of you (and arguably that's a healthy way to live, even if self-awareness is also a good quality).
I would say your reply is more long-winded than mine and you've also confused posters, as I didn't make that comment (and clearly stated I believe you're entitled to voice your opinion). It may be negative bias on my part but my impression is you're into the dozens of anti-Muric posts now since the weekend and are pretty much regurgitating earlier thoughts ad nauseum, which is what annoys other forum users, but I appreciate that you don't care what people think of you (and arguably that's a healthy way to live, even if self-awareness is also a good quality).
I've not made an anti muric post in this thread. Nor even the one I wrote about him the other day. So no not sure why you've come at me tbh.
I've not made an anti muric post in this thread. Nor even the one I wrote about him the other day. So no not sure why you've come at me tbh.
Sorry I'll hold my hands up and admit I misunderstood the post I replied to - I genuinely thought you were requesting feedback on why there's been an uptick on people taking issue with you of late, which I believe you've done before, and I thought my opinion may be helpful, as much as it's just one person's opinion (and how I felt it wasn't simply about the quickness to write someone off as much as it was the volume of posts stating the same criticism). I saw afterwards I'd got that wrong lol and you were instead on defensive manoeuvres. And if you haven't been repeating the same criticism of Muric again and again then that's also on me, and would speak to me unfairly judging posters on historical incidents. I didn't think I'd invented this when I made what I thought could be a helpful commentary, but I apologise if I have.
I had thought when I saw it live that Muric had been put off by the possibility of a Brentford player heading the ball, but that clearly isn't the case.
It seems to me that he reacted too late to it but I am not sure why given he appeared to have the best view of the ball.
Sorry I'll hold my hands up and admit I misunderstood the post I replied to - I genuinely thought you were requesting feedback on why there's been an uptick on people taking issue with you of late, which I believe you've done before, and I thought my opinion may be helpful, as much as it's just one person's opinion (and how I felt it wasn't simply about the quickness to write someone off as much as it was the volume of posts stating the same criticism). I saw afterwards I'd got that wrong lol and you were instead on defensive manoeuvres. And if you haven't been repeating the same criticism of Muric again and again then that's also on me, and would speak to me unfairly judging posters on historical incidents. I didn't think I'd invented this when I made what I thought could be a helpful commentary, but I apologise if I have.
"why there's been an uptick on people taking issue with you of late"
There hasn't.
Regarding muric. I've had discussions and pretty good ones about him tbh. So no not sure what your issue was tbh.
Anyways. Seems to be some crossed wires here. So we shall leave it there. But fair play for holding hands up.
Have to say I just think it's a really odd bit of goalkeeping.
When crosses unexpectedly end up in the net it's usually because (a) they're flat, fast and end up in the corner or (b) a defender or attacker looks like they're going to get a touch on it. Neither applies here, so god knows what was going through his mind.
Doubt he's conceded a similar goal before or ever will again though.
I don't think this was an issue of commanding the 6-yard box, which is normally associated with coming forward to claim, and as you say clattering those in the way if needs be, but rather correctly assessing that a save needed to be made. Muric has stopped 13.8% of crosses this season, which is the highest percentage of any keeper in the league; the average is around 6%, with Allison at 4.2% and Ederson at 1.4%. If anything I'd say he's trying to dominate his box too much and is sometimes caught out going for the ball, though the alternative may be our defenders struggling to deal with situations that those in other teams would more comfortably mop up.
It’s a soft, flighted ball in which he’s seen all the way. He has to take control of that situation. His starting and end position is exactly the same from when it leaves his foot. Moves a yard or two forward, big shout and he gathers it with ease.
If I’m O’Shea I’m expecting my keeper to scream at me to get off my toes and out of the box and for the ball to be gathered with ease and Town to go home with a point. Keepers ball all day long but he’s rooted to his goal line. Terrible keeping.
The stat regarding crosses is kind of meaningless. It just says we’re terrible at stopping crosses from their source.
It’s a soft, flighted ball in which he’s seen all the way. He has to take control of that situation. His starting and end position is exactly the same from when it leaves his foot. Moves a yard or two forward, big shout and he gathers it with ease.
If I’m O’Shea I’m expecting my keeper to scream at me to get off my toes and out of the box and for the ball to be gathered with ease and Town to go home with a point. Keepers ball all day long but he’s rooted to his goal line. Terrible keeping.
The stat regarding crosses is kind of meaningless. It just says we’re terrible at stopping crosses from their source.
[Post edited 29 Oct 2024 18:43]
I don't think it was that soft tbh (obviously slowed down in the video), but don't dispute it has to be saved either way, whether that's to move across to his right as I believe or move forwards as you feel. His cross-stopping percentage across two clubs and leagues shows he's among the most active 'high claimers' in the country, however - would be silly to pretend otherwise. If we want a keeper that stops a higher percentage of crosses, we'd need to look abroad. There's a difference between doing something the most and doing something the best mind!
I often remark watching other teams how literally the best players in the world fook things up and every game has mistakes in it, all over the pitch but especially defences buckling under the pressure of the press, innit. Tis how the game is played these days innit.
Sh1t happens.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Just looking at this again, can somebody confirm for me if Townsend and Davis are doing the right thing in regards to tracking the right players..
In my head im thinking Davis if not taking the player to the oustide, then townsend should be coming across whilst Davis difts away and covers the runner coming to the right, that way Davis stops the outside runner whilst also stops the player with the ball if he goes right, or townsend stops the crosser if he comes across to him rather than going behind davis to stop the overlapping runner...
Just looking at this again, can somebody confirm for me if Townsend and Davis are doing the right thing in regards to tracking the right players..
In my head im thinking Davis if not taking the player to the oustide, then townsend should be coming across whilst Davis difts away and covers the runner coming to the right, that way Davis stops the outside runner whilst also stops the player with the ball if he goes right, or townsend stops the crosser if he comes across to him rather than going behind davis to stop the overlapping runner...
Don't forget that we were down to 10 men for about a third of the game so tracking players might have been slightly more difficult with them having an extra man.
I'm no goalie expert but surely you have to have some sort of anticipation.
I could understand it going in if a lot of people were going up for a header and he thinks they're going to head it. It seems clear to me, no-one is going to head it to change the direction of the ball and he can see it all the way. I'm baffled as to how it goes in. Its definitely a GK fault.
Yes the cross is too easy to get in.
I know a goalie gets better sitting on the bench, but I don't think Walton lets that in.
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