| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' 09:29 - Nov 1 with 3742 views | tommcd |
The Nottingham Forest Away fixture will clearly sell-out quickly today (the day of the 15+ window opening), so the Ticket Sales 'Profile' for the Nottingham Forest fixture will be as below:
The Club announced an allocation of 2932 tickets had been provided, 272 seats were retained by the Club (probable breakdown; 58 for the Ballot, around 20 for disabled, 192 for 'Club Allocation').
That left 2660 seats sold in 'points-based' sales windows.
1086 (40.83% of available seats) seats sold in the 30+ window.
749 (28.16%) seats sold in the 25+ window.
721 (27.11%) seats sold in the 20+ window.
104 (3.91%) seats sold in the 15+ window.
Points of note:
* Once again the 30+ group is the top-seller.
* Demand in the 30+ group was the highest so far, eclipsing both Brentford and Tottenham sales.
* This was the first Away fixture to go on sale on a Tuesday, presumably to avoid clashing with the Crystal Palace Home sale, but...
* Forest Away 20+ and Leicester Home ST-resale still had a clash at 10am on Thurs, resulting in unexpected queueing again (though tickets dropped through to the next window so at least no one should have missed out due to the queue this time).
Graphical Comparision:
Previous Sales 'Profiles' for reference:
Southampton - Anyone interested in the Sales 'Profile' for Southampton Tickets... by tommcd 6 Sep 2024 10:362736 seats were available for purchase within the 'points-based' sales windows.
588 (21.49% of available seats) seats sold in the 30+ window.
667 (24.38%) seats sold in the 25+ window.
780 (28.51%) seats sold in the 20+ window.
659 (24.09%) seats sold in the 15+ window.
42 (1.54%) seats sold in the 10+ window.
Interesting that demand in the 20+ window was greater than in the 15+ window (possibly skewed due to people from higher brackets deferring purchase until this window to buy with lower-point friends).
Make of that what you will in terms in your likelihood of getting tickets, when to 'safely' wait until if you have lots of points but want to sit with mates that have fewer points etc.
West Ham - West Ham Ticket Sales 'Profile' by tommcd 13 Sep 2024 9:17Assuming a 'sell-out' today (the day of the 15+ window opening), the Ticket Sales 'Profile' for the West Ham fixture is as below:
2661 seats were available for purchase within the 'points-based' sales windows (our full 'allocation' minus those reserved for the ballot, hospitality, players families and probably disabled/carers places).
748 (28.11% of available seats) seats sold in the 30+ window.
946 (35.55%) seats sold in the 25+ window.
846 (31.79%) seats sold in the 20+ window.
121 (4.55%) seats sold in the 15+ window.
Points of note:
* Higher volumes sold in all Windows (vs Soton), probably due to higher 'appeal' (ease-of-access, new stadium for many, etc).
* The 'peak' sales Window for West Ham was 25+, previously (Soton) the 'peak' window was 20+. Is the shift of the 'peak' an 'anomoly' due to the 'appeal' of the match? Or is it a 'trend' due to members moving en-masse up through the tiers? Too small of a result set to be sure one way or the other.
* Brentford up next, probably will be a very short 'profile' as I would expect to see very few tickets making it through to the 20+ window. Maybe there'll be a new 35+ window introduced soon, the 10+ and 5+ windows are pretty much redundant anyway...
Graphical Comparision:
https://i.postimg.cc/85SLdqCM/Picture1.jpg
Previous Sales 'Profiles' for reference:
Southampton - https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/592381/5896724/anyone-interested-in-the-sales-profile-for-southampton-tickets...
Brentford - Brentford Ticket Sales 'Profile' by tommcd 1 Oct 2024 10:24Bit of a boring one due to the small allocation. Confidently assuming a 'sell-out' today (the day of the 25+ window opening), the Ticket Sales 'Profile' for the Brentord fixture is as below:
1500 seats were available for purchase within the 'points-based' sales windows (our full 'allocation' minus those reserved for the ballot, hospitality, players families and probably disabled/carers places).
988 (65.87% of available seats) seats sold in the 30+ window.
512 (34.13%) seats sold in the 25+ window.
Points of note:
* The 30+ group continues to grow (as you'd expect).
Graphical Comparision:
https://iili.io/dDBbVOx.md.jpg
Previous Sales 'Profiles' for reference:
Southampton - https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/592381/anyone-interested-in-the-sales-profile-for-southampton-tickets.../#0
West Ham - https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/592631/west-ham-ticket-sales-profile/#0
Tottenham - Tottenham Ticket Sales 'Profile' by tommcd 17 Oct 2024 10:36A 'sell-out' today (the day of the 15+ window opening), so the Ticket Sales 'Profile' for the Tottenham fixture is as below:
The Club announced a full '3000' allocation had been provided, 265 regular seats were retained by the Club (presumably 60 for the Ballot, 205 for 'Club Allocation'). Leaving 2720 seats available for purchase within the 'points-based' sales windows (by that count it would suggest 16 disabled spaces were available too).
1036 (38.09% of available seats) seats sold in the 30+ window.
818 (30.07%) seats sold in the 25+ window.
797 (29.30%) seats sold in the 20+ window.
69 (2.54%) seats sold in the 15+ window.
Points of note:
* The 30+ group continues to grow and was the top-selling Window for the first time.
* Sales in 25+ and 20+ were actually down on the West Ham fixture, in conjunction with the growth in 30+ it suggests that those already in the 20+, 25+, 30+ ranges are pretty much the 'closed shop'. Breaking into 20+ will be difficult.
* 16pts was the magic number for starting this Season on, if you started on 16, bought tickets for every away match that reached 15+, you were on 20+ by West Ham which got you into the 'as long as you keep on buying tickets you'll be fine' club (apart from Brentford / Bournemouth).
Graphical Comparision:
https://iili.io/2dv4OQ4.md.jpg
Previous Sales 'Profiles' for reference:
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/592381/anyone-interested-in-the-sales-profile-for-southampton-tickets.../#0
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/592631/west-ham-ticket-sales-profile/#0
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/593642/brentford-ticket-sales-profile/#0
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 09:35 - Nov 1 with 3647 views | dingus |
I'd imagine the number of tickets going to 30+ will increase throughout the season as more people earn points. By the end of the season I'd imagine it won't be far off 100% |  | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 09:41 - Nov 1 with 3611 views | tommcd |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 09:35 - Nov 1 by dingus |
I'd imagine the number of tickets going to 30+ will increase throughout the season as more people earn points. By the end of the season I'd imagine it won't be far off 100% |
Agree, which will have interesting consequences to the points-bands entering the 25/26 Season.
Likely the 25/26 Season will start with around 3000 on 25+ points, a huge number on 10-14, and virtually no one on 15-24. | | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:35 - Nov 1 with 3444 views | Chris_ITFC |
You can now clearly see the “closed shop” effect emerging.
Last 3 games:
- 30+ getting bigger and bigger
- 25+ and 20+ getting smaller and smaller
- 15+ approaching zero chance to get any
30+ will keep expanding, 15+ will soon have 0 chance, and that will soon spread to anyone left at 20+.
Thanks for your work Tom. I hope the Club consider this analysis at the end of the season, or presumably every 3000 allocation will become limited to a group of fans* not much bigger than that.
*Deserving they sure are, but not really a desirable system all things considered. |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:57 - Nov 1 with 3348 views | tractorshark |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:35 - Nov 1 by Chris_ITFC |
You can now clearly see the “closed shop” effect emerging.
Last 3 games:
- 30+ getting bigger and bigger
- 25+ and 20+ getting smaller and smaller
- 15+ approaching zero chance to get any
30+ will keep expanding, 15+ will soon have 0 chance, and that will soon spread to anyone left at 20+.
Thanks for your work Tom. I hope the Club consider this analysis at the end of the season, or presumably every 3000 allocation will become limited to a group of fans* not much bigger than that.
*Deserving they sure are, but not really a desirable system all things considered. |
Yes it’s going to become a closed shop but it’s the same at every Premier League club.
I’m not sure how you make it fairer without penalising those who have spent buckets going up and down the country.
Most people who complain about the system will have their own agendas, which undoubtedly will increase their chances of getting a ticket.
But the harsh reality of the situation is if those people had gone to six away games last season (tickets were readily available to do that) and then continued this season, they wouldn’t be complaining now.
My only gripe is I see a lot of people who have jumped on the bandwagon in the last two seasons and that has come at the expense of exiled fans who have been loyal for decades, including my eldest son.
But that falls into the bracket of agendas and the same applies to my son as it does to others. In my humble opinion, the club have got it right with away games. They can’t go back years and years to find someone who went to Stockport away. Where would the cutoff point be?
Bottom line is they have to reward recent loyalty and that encourages people to keep attending. If they don’t, there are plenty of people who will replace them.
And there is still the option of home games. By making the attendance stipulation just one game last season, that has very much opened the door to the casual fan. [Post edited 1 Nov 2024 10:58]
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:04 - Nov 1 with 3269 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 09:41 - Nov 1 by tommcd |
Agree, which will have interesting consequences to the points-bands entering the 25/26 Season.
Likely the 25/26 Season will start with around 3000 on 25+ points, a huge number on 10-14, and virtually no one on 15-24. |
Maybe there will be a complete reset of points in the summer? |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:05 - Nov 1 with 3264 views | JakeITFC |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:57 - Nov 1 by tractorshark |
Yes it’s going to become a closed shop but it’s the same at every Premier League club.
I’m not sure how you make it fairer without penalising those who have spent buckets going up and down the country.
Most people who complain about the system will have their own agendas, which undoubtedly will increase their chances of getting a ticket.
But the harsh reality of the situation is if those people had gone to six away games last season (tickets were readily available to do that) and then continued this season, they wouldn’t be complaining now.
My only gripe is I see a lot of people who have jumped on the bandwagon in the last two seasons and that has come at the expense of exiled fans who have been loyal for decades, including my eldest son.
But that falls into the bracket of agendas and the same applies to my son as it does to others. In my humble opinion, the club have got it right with away games. They can’t go back years and years to find someone who went to Stockport away. Where would the cutoff point be?
Bottom line is they have to reward recent loyalty and that encourages people to keep attending. If they don’t, there are plenty of people who will replace them.
And there is still the option of home games. By making the attendance stipulation just one game last season, that has very much opened the door to the casual fan. [Post edited 1 Nov 2024 10:58]
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All very true, and I think the key part is that in both the league one and championship promotion seasons, a person starting from a low base could still have got up to a reasonable amount for this year and so loyalty has been rewarded in that sense. I do miss the days of picking and choosing, being able to bring along friends who don’t want to do every week etc. but I guess that’s the price of success.
I think my one change would be to increase the ballot percentage to maybe 5% or even 10%. |  | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:06 - Nov 1 with 3259 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:57 - Nov 1 by tractorshark |
Yes it’s going to become a closed shop but it’s the same at every Premier League club.
I’m not sure how you make it fairer without penalising those who have spent buckets going up and down the country.
Most people who complain about the system will have their own agendas, which undoubtedly will increase their chances of getting a ticket.
But the harsh reality of the situation is if those people had gone to six away games last season (tickets were readily available to do that) and then continued this season, they wouldn’t be complaining now.
My only gripe is I see a lot of people who have jumped on the bandwagon in the last two seasons and that has come at the expense of exiled fans who have been loyal for decades, including my eldest son.
But that falls into the bracket of agendas and the same applies to my son as it does to others. In my humble opinion, the club have got it right with away games. They can’t go back years and years to find someone who went to Stockport away. Where would the cutoff point be?
Bottom line is they have to reward recent loyalty and that encourages people to keep attending. If they don’t, there are plenty of people who will replace them.
And there is still the option of home games. By making the attendance stipulation just one game last season, that has very much opened the door to the casual fan. [Post edited 1 Nov 2024 10:58]
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While demand exceeds supply, there will always be some who are unhappy - it is mathematically impossible to please everyone.
Therefore, choices have to be made - and the one the club have made is the correct one.
And as many have said, you really didn't need to go to many away games last season to be ok for this season. |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:12 - Nov 1 with 3218 views | Kievthegreat |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:35 - Nov 1 by Chris_ITFC |
You can now clearly see the “closed shop” effect emerging.
Last 3 games:
- 30+ getting bigger and bigger
- 25+ and 20+ getting smaller and smaller
- 15+ approaching zero chance to get any
30+ will keep expanding, 15+ will soon have 0 chance, and that will soon spread to anyone left at 20+.
Thanks for your work Tom. I hope the Club consider this analysis at the end of the season, or presumably every 3000 allocation will become limited to a group of fans* not much bigger than that.
*Deserving they sure are, but not really a desirable system all things considered. |
It wouldn't surprise me if they looked at some sort of wider distribution of tickets. I think there could be fairer systems.
Example with arbitrary numbers based very roughly on Southampton:
Window 1: 25% available for 30+ points
Window 2: An extra 25% available for 25+ points
Window 3: An extra 20% available for 20+ point
Window 4: An extra 20% available for 15+ point
Window 5: 10% ballot for 10 points and up (i.e 2 years membership lets you into a ballot)
Being in 30+ window is still hugely rewarded with a big chunk, plus you can participate in all windows to increase your opportunities. However while 15+ is still a slog (as you'll have all the people above taking part in your window), it is one where luck could see you progress. I also think giving a way in for new away followers (via 2 years membership) would allow new and younger fans to join long term.
I'm sure you'd have to tweak numbers to strike the right balance, especially for smaller allocations. To me a system that massively rewards loyalty, but that let's those on the cusp not get locked out would be better.
PS. I only ever went to the odd away match and didn't have a membership last year, so doesn't effect/benefit me in the slightest. Just my attempted impartial opinion to what I perceive to be flaw in the system, that long term new fans will be locked out. |  | | |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:14 - Nov 1 with 3185 views | Fixed_It |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:04 - Nov 1 by Reuser_is_God |
Maybe there will be a complete reset of points in the summer? |
Imagine the carnage on the website for the first away game?! |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:16 - Nov 1 with 3153 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:04 - Nov 1 by Reuser_is_God |
Maybe there will be a complete reset of points in the summer? |
No chance. | |
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| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 11:19 - Nov 1 with 3132 views | Bloots |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:06 - Nov 1 by ITFC_Forever |
While demand exceeds supply, there will always be some who are unhappy - it is mathematically impossible to please everyone.
Therefore, choices have to be made - and the one the club have made is the correct one.
And as many have said, you really didn't need to go to many away games last season to be ok for this season. |
….I don’t like using the word but it’s really just “gloryhunting”.
If you had a membership and went to 10 aways last year you’d have been fine this season.
Ultimately the people moaning are those that didn’t get off their arses and go to matches at the beginning of last season when we didn’t think we’d have a chance of promotion.
Meh. |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:19 - Nov 1 with 3125 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:57 - Nov 1 by tractorshark |
Yes it’s going to become a closed shop but it’s the same at every Premier League club.
I’m not sure how you make it fairer without penalising those who have spent buckets going up and down the country.
Most people who complain about the system will have their own agendas, which undoubtedly will increase their chances of getting a ticket.
But the harsh reality of the situation is if those people had gone to six away games last season (tickets were readily available to do that) and then continued this season, they wouldn’t be complaining now.
My only gripe is I see a lot of people who have jumped on the bandwagon in the last two seasons and that has come at the expense of exiled fans who have been loyal for decades, including my eldest son.
But that falls into the bracket of agendas and the same applies to my son as it does to others. In my humble opinion, the club have got it right with away games. They can’t go back years and years to find someone who went to Stockport away. Where would the cutoff point be?
Bottom line is they have to reward recent loyalty and that encourages people to keep attending. If they don’t, there are plenty of people who will replace them.
And there is still the option of home games. By making the attendance stipulation just one game last season, that has very much opened the door to the casual fan. [Post edited 1 Nov 2024 10:58]
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Yes, I don’t disagree with a lot of that. I just think it’s the ballot that needs tweaking.
Sure, those people are deserving and don’t deserve to be penalised. In some cases, I dare say they are being forced to go more often/ spend more than they would ideally like just to retain the ability to go at all, so fair play to them for that.
However, I do think if the ballot was increased slightly, that would still allow the loyal away masses to regularly access tickets, but would bring the added benefit of giving many thousands of other fans a genuine chance of getting an away ticket or two across the course of a whole season.
At the moment, 2% basically creates a situation where the top 4000 odd people have ~3000 tickets every week and every other Town fan has to be lucky enough to get 1 of ~1200 tickets across the whole season (2% of 3000 * 20).
I think that balance could alter slightly, without me being too inward-looking about it. | |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:27 - Nov 1 with 3066 views | Kievthegreat |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:04 - Nov 1 by Reuser_is_God |
Maybe there will be a complete reset of points in the summer? |
Think this could be slightly too far in the opposite direction? | | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:35 - Nov 1 with 3010 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:27 - Nov 1 by Kievthegreat |
Think this could be slightly too far in the opposite direction? |
Civil war.
Last season’s will drop off though. | |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:36 - Nov 1 with 3000 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:05 - Nov 1 by JakeITFC |
All very true, and I think the key part is that in both the league one and championship promotion seasons, a person starting from a low base could still have got up to a reasonable amount for this year and so loyalty has been rewarded in that sense. I do miss the days of picking and choosing, being able to bring along friends who don’t want to do every week etc. but I guess that’s the price of success.
I think my one change would be to increase the ballot percentage to maybe 5% or even 10%. |
"I do miss the days of picking and choosing, being able to bring along friends who don’t want to do every week" - to be honest, I think that still happens to a degree. I think lots of people have 'borrowed' a number off a mate for a one off game. Unless you start spot checking significant numbers of people, you aren't going to really stop that. | | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:38 - Nov 1 with 2987 views | Guthrum |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 11:04 - Nov 1 by Reuser_is_God |
Maybe there will be a complete reset of points in the summer? |
Possibly that points from a couple of seasons ago will "expire". |  |
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| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 12:09 - Nov 1 with 2829 views | VanDusen |
| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 11:19 - Nov 1 by Bloots |
….I don’t like using the word but it’s really just “gloryhunting”.
If you had a membership and went to 10 aways last year you’d have been fine this season.
Ultimately the people moaning are those that didn’t get off their arses and go to matches at the beginning of last season when we didn’t think we’d have a chance of promotion.
Meh. |
Precisely. There has been 22 years of opportunity to get away tickets pretty easily for almost any game you chose, bar Norwich and the odd play-off or small ground (Wimbledon 2020 or Bracknell 2022). Those moaning their membership's got them nothing this year should consider the hardcore who have spent £30-40 on a gold card each of those seasons largely for nothing - (especially given in the end these high demand games were allocated directly via invitation to purchase letters). And the reason we have this system now rather than a complete reset is the free for all at Cambridge two years ago where loyal fans DID miss out (itself caused by a reduced allocation due to the d*ckheads who caused trouble in the standing area next to the Cambs fans the previous season meaning we didn't get the several hundred there). If anything the whole scheme should have been tweaked initially to cover 2-3 seasons history which would have provided a higher bar for entry in the first place and reduced this happening so soon.
Odd 'glory hunting' though. Brentford last week was about as deflating an away experience as I've had in years - even worse than Charlton two years ago, where at least you had the consolation of having seen a 'once in a lifetime' crazy occurrence... ;o) Mind you - way it's going we may well be back to substantial allocations at Blackburn and Preston next season anyway... | | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 12:14 - Nov 1 with 2801 views | brazil1982 |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 09:41 - Nov 1 by tommcd |
Agree, which will have interesting consequences to the points-bands entering the 25/26 Season.
Likely the 25/26 Season will start with around 3000 on 25+ points, a huge number on 10-14, and virtually no one on 15-24. |
I think the consequence is a good number not renewing memberships next year. I won't. |  | | |
| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 12:18 - Nov 1 with 2771 views | ParisBlue |
| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 12:09 - Nov 1 by VanDusen |
Precisely. There has been 22 years of opportunity to get away tickets pretty easily for almost any game you chose, bar Norwich and the odd play-off or small ground (Wimbledon 2020 or Bracknell 2022). Those moaning their membership's got them nothing this year should consider the hardcore who have spent £30-40 on a gold card each of those seasons largely for nothing - (especially given in the end these high demand games were allocated directly via invitation to purchase letters). And the reason we have this system now rather than a complete reset is the free for all at Cambridge two years ago where loyal fans DID miss out (itself caused by a reduced allocation due to the d*ckheads who caused trouble in the standing area next to the Cambs fans the previous season meaning we didn't get the several hundred there). If anything the whole scheme should have been tweaked initially to cover 2-3 seasons history which would have provided a higher bar for entry in the first place and reduced this happening so soon.
Odd 'glory hunting' though. Brentford last week was about as deflating an away experience as I've had in years - even worse than Charlton two years ago, where at least you had the consolation of having seen a 'once in a lifetime' crazy occurrence... ;o) Mind you - way it's going we may well be back to substantial allocations at Blackburn and Preston next season anyway... |
Neither Blackburn or Preston sold out last season. |  |
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| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 12:22 - Nov 1 with 2738 views | VanDusen |
| Yep, and there’s no getting away from it…. on 12:18 - Nov 1 by ParisBlue |
Neither Blackburn or Preston sold out last season. |
Exactly - as many tickets as you want! We'll then see what the latent demand really is for aways... ;o) | | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 12:23 - Nov 1 with 2730 views | tractorshark |
Playing Devil’s advocate but the acid test will come if we’re relegated.
Away tickets would be readily available again so I presume those who have complained about the system would leap at the opportunity and start going to the likes of Swansea, Coventry, Preston etc.
Or is it just they fancy a trip to Manchester United? | | | |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 14:15 - Nov 1 with 2430 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:35 - Nov 1 by Chris_ITFC |
You can now clearly see the “closed shop” effect emerging.
Last 3 games:
- 30+ getting bigger and bigger
- 25+ and 20+ getting smaller and smaller
- 15+ approaching zero chance to get any
30+ will keep expanding, 15+ will soon have 0 chance, and that will soon spread to anyone left at 20+.
Thanks for your work Tom. I hope the Club consider this analysis at the end of the season, or presumably every 3000 allocation will become limited to a group of fans* not much bigger than that.
*Deserving they sure are, but not really a desirable system all things considered. |
Personally think the most interesting thing here is that the drop in 25+ and 20+ is larger than the growth in 30+ (or to put it more simply, more tickets for this game have reached 15+), which indicates some of those in higher priority have chosen not to go to this one
Might be as simple as being a less attractive game compared to Spurs (particularly as we’ve had many a trip to the City Ground in the last decade), but potentially also a sign that for a few the novelty is starting to wear off
Will be interesting to see if that continues, especially if results don’t improve, and more tickets continue to fall to the 15+ bracket (arguably if that happens we may then start to see some fall right through to 10+) |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 14:36 - Nov 1 with 2319 views | Steve_M |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 14:15 - Nov 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Personally think the most interesting thing here is that the drop in 25+ and 20+ is larger than the growth in 30+ (or to put it more simply, more tickets for this game have reached 15+), which indicates some of those in higher priority have chosen not to go to this one
Might be as simple as being a less attractive game compared to Spurs (particularly as we’ve had many a trip to the City Ground in the last decade), but potentially also a sign that for a few the novelty is starting to wear off
Will be interesting to see if that continues, especially if results don’t improve, and more tickets continue to fall to the 15+ bracket (arguably if that happens we may then start to see some fall right through to 10+) |
I wonder if there's a also an element of people choosing Forest or Wolves here too, think that looked like the case with Brighton and Southampton too.
It's particularly unfortunate for those who've not been able to get away tickets that so many of our fixtures are relatively close to Ipswich with only Man City away being a longer trip. That just compounds the demand. |  |
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| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 17:23 - Nov 1 with 2072 views | LankHenners |
| Nottingham Forest Ticket Sales 'Profile' on 10:57 - Nov 1 by tractorshark |
Yes it’s going to become a closed shop but it’s the same at every Premier League club.
I’m not sure how you make it fairer without penalising those who have spent buckets going up and down the country.
Most people who complain about the system will have their own agendas, which undoubtedly will increase their chances of getting a ticket.
But the harsh reality of the situation is if those people had gone to six away games last season (tickets were readily available to do that) and then continued this season, they wouldn’t be complaining now.
My only gripe is I see a lot of people who have jumped on the bandwagon in the last two seasons and that has come at the expense of exiled fans who have been loyal for decades, including my eldest son.
But that falls into the bracket of agendas and the same applies to my son as it does to others. In my humble opinion, the club have got it right with away games. They can’t go back years and years to find someone who went to Stockport away. Where would the cutoff point be?
Bottom line is they have to reward recent loyalty and that encourages people to keep attending. If they don’t, there are plenty of people who will replace them.
And there is still the option of home games. By making the attendance stipulation just one game last season, that has very much opened the door to the casual fan. [Post edited 1 Nov 2024 10:58]
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Think there are only a couple of things you could quibble about with the club's process on tickets - one is not going back x amount of seasons to weed out the 'gloryhunters' you mention but as you say hard to draw the line on that. The other is for home games where the ballot is open to anyone who went to 1 game with a membership so people who put the money and effort in all season potentially lose out on tickets to someone who jumped in for a couple of games towards the end of the season when it got particularly exciting. Helps the casuals out like you say (good, imo) but seems a bit at odds with their strategy for away games.
Seem to have this conversation every week but demand will always outstrip supply as long as we're doing well and think the club have got it right on the whole.
As an aside, wonder what the general opinion would be among fans of all clubs if the maximum away ticket price was raised but clubs were forced to adhere to the 10% rule if they could go over 3000 seats for away fans. Hidden drawback of the cap is the big clubs who could easily host at least double the away fans they do refusing to do so because they can sell a ticket to a home supporter for more than they can an away one. |  |
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Think there are only a couple of things you could quibble about with the club's process on tickets - one is not going back x amount of seasons to weed out the 'gloryhunters' you mention but as you say hard to draw the line on that. The other is for home games where the ballot is open to anyone who went to 1 game with a membership so people who put the money and effort in all season potentially lose out on tickets to someone who jumped in for a couple of games towards the end of the season when it got particularly exciting. Helps the casuals out like you say (good, imo) but seems a bit at odds with their strategy for away games.
Seem to have this conversation every week but demand will always outstrip supply as long as we're doing well and think the club have got it right on the whole.
As an aside, wonder what the general opinion would be among fans of all clubs if the maximum away ticket price was raised but clubs were forced to adhere to the 10% rule if they could go over 3000 seats for away fans. Hidden drawback of the cap is the big clubs who could easily host at least double the away fans they do refusing to do so because they can sell a ticket to a home supporter for more than they can an away one. |
Re. that idea on the cap. So sort of like UEFA do at tournaments with the 'fan first' tickets for England (and presumably all other participating countries) which are dramatically cheaper? And which the FA allocate precisely on that basis in a staggered release so that the fans with the most caps (same as our priority points) are guaranteed to get one. The fan first ticket for the final in 2021 was just £90 whereas the next level up was £300 and the highest tier £600 or something. It was similar for Berlin this summer too.
It's an interesting idea, although I suspect most clubs in this corrupt showbiz league would prefer to sell to nominal 'home' fans from all around the world rather than away supporters... [Post edited 1 Nov 2024 17:55]
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