| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick 10:51 - Nov 7 with 4666 views | Keno |
but I must admit I like the guy and think we are lucky to have him.
I'm reminded of a bit near the end of the Mr John book (see note) where one of nephews says something to the the club at that time having "a faceless owner and that we needed someone who cared about the club again'
There will never me another John Cobbold, but Mark Ashton does care and is very much part of our identity in the way the Cobbolds where
Note - if you havent read the book yet do so, there is one on Amazon atm
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mr-John-Cobbold-Eccentric-Football/dp/1848185146 |  |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 10:57 - Nov 7 with 4406 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Bit of an insult to compare a spiv like Ashton to Mr John old boy. |  |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:03 - Nov 7 with 4379 views | docklandsblue |
Not anymore. Been meaning to read it for ages, thanks for the heads up | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:14 - Nov 7 with 4299 views | Churchman |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 10:57 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
Bit of an insult to compare a spiv like Ashton to Mr John old boy. |
Would you call him a spiv to his face? I’ve no idea what basis you call him that beyond your usual sour hatreds.
They can be compared in the roles they do even if are different people from a different time operating something that’s on a completely different level. There’s no insult in it.
Would I have enjoyed a drink with John And Patrick Cobbold? Too right I would. Mr Ashton? No idea - it’d certainly be interesting and the liver would certainly not come in for as much punishment.
The Mr John book is a must read, as Keno suggests. |  | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:21 - Nov 7 with 4272 views | wrightsrightglove |
It does seem like he genuinely cares about the club. I'd like to see a Chairman brought in at some point but I really hope he's with us long term regardless of how this season goes. He's got a vision for the club and is clearly able to drive that vision forward with the backing of the owners. He's also clearly able to pick out a manager and that bodes well for as and when McKenna gets lured elsewhere | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:23 - Nov 7 with 4265 views | Keno |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 10:57 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
Bit of an insult to compare a spiv like Ashton to Mr John old boy. |
He may have his faults but I dont think Mr Ashton is a spiv
I do think he is working tirelessly for the club and you only have to look the journey we have been on since he arrived to see the results of that work
I'm pretty sure Mr John would be the first to pour Mr Mark a very large drink and congratulate him on his impact so far | |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:41 - Nov 7 with 4209 views | Guthrum |
It strikes me that Ashton is one of those people with the attitude that if you're going to do something, do it wholeheartedly.
He has no (known) previous connection with Ipswich or Town, but because that is his current job, he has thrown himself into it absolutely. Becoming a combined superfan, tenacious fighter for the club's interests and advocate for the area.
I see no evidence of it being feigned or cynical. It may be that he has genuinely fallen in love with the place. Whatever, the effect is the same and results speak for themselves (I doubt McKenna would have been so successful, nor would he have stayed at ITFC if he felt Ashton was untrustworthy or false).
As for accusations of egotism, who of us would not want to be sitting in the front row of the staff photo? Especially having worked one's @rse off to get self and club to they position they've achieved. Plus that is his job, as figurehead and public face of Ipswich Town FC.
Can heartily recommend the Mr John book, too. |  |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:44 - Nov 7 with 4181 views | itfc1108 |
I think the midlands accent is my least favourite ( other than Barry from auf weidersein), and when you mix it with the management speak, it's not a very appealing combination!
But, he has done a very good job for our club. | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 12:15 - Nov 7 with 4059 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 11:23 - Nov 7 by Keno |
He may have his faults but I dont think Mr Ashton is a spiv
I do think he is working tirelessly for the club and you only have to look the journey we have been on since he arrived to see the results of that work
I'm pretty sure Mr John would be the first to pour Mr Mark a very large drink and congratulate him on his impact so far |
The key difference is that John Cobbold was not running a local club set up by his family for anything other than his love for the club. - and belief in doing it’ the right way’
Ashton identified Ipswich as a rotting carcass ripe for ‘investment’ and has made a lot of money playing to the gullible public whilst meeting his US masters financial demands.
I’d suggest Ashton is actually a clone of Sheepshanks who cynically used the club for personal gain and gladhanding at the FA whilst taking his eye off the ball - something Ashton is in danger of doing with his current play acting | |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 13:03 - Nov 7 with 3931 views | Pendejo |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 10:57 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
Bit of an insult to compare a spiv like Ashton to Mr John old boy. |
I would humbly suggest the term "spiv" is libellous and would suggest a different term is used to convey the character difference to the Cobbolds.
From my own point of view he has been outstanding for us, very much deserving of his position at the centre of the club photo. |  |
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| The Mr. John book on 13:15 - Nov 7 with 3860 views | Pendejo |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 13:03 - Nov 7 by Pendejo |
I would humbly suggest the term "spiv" is libellous and would suggest a different term is used to convey the character difference to the Cobbolds.
From my own point of view he has been outstanding for us, very much deserving of his position at the centre of the club photo. |
If you are an Ipswich fan and you haven't read it.
Buy it or borrow it, but please you must read it; love the story about hosting Leeds directors for a pre-match meal, top bantz | |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 13:23 - Nov 7 with 3799 views | Pendejo |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 12:15 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
The key difference is that John Cobbold was not running a local club set up by his family for anything other than his love for the club. - and belief in doing it’ the right way’
Ashton identified Ipswich as a rotting carcass ripe for ‘investment’ and has made a lot of money playing to the gullible public whilst meeting his US masters financial demands.
I’d suggest Ashton is actually a clone of Sheepshanks who cynically used the club for personal gain and gladhanding at the FA whilst taking his eye off the ball - something Ashton is in danger of doing with his current play acting |
For Mr. John ITFC was a hand me down chattel of the Cobbold family, if he'd had a choice he wouldn't have had anything to do with it. His service to the task was admirable.
Rotting carcass - definitely
Gullible public? If you mean creating a fervour and excitement about the team that has not been experienced for 20 odd years, yes.
Gullible implies being incorrectly lured into something, so clarification pkease. | |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 14:02 - Nov 7 with 3708 views | Churchman |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 12:15 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
The key difference is that John Cobbold was not running a local club set up by his family for anything other than his love for the club. - and belief in doing it’ the right way’
Ashton identified Ipswich as a rotting carcass ripe for ‘investment’ and has made a lot of money playing to the gullible public whilst meeting his US masters financial demands.
I’d suggest Ashton is actually a clone of Sheepshanks who cynically used the club for personal gain and gladhanding at the FA whilst taking his eye off the ball - something Ashton is in danger of doing with his current play acting |
The Cobbolds were different people in a different time. They’d recognise Jacob Reece Mogg, but not necessarily like him (Eton etc). They certainly wouldn’t recognise much else. They were at the top of the social pile (grandsons of the Duke of Devonshire - Chatsworth etc) and educated accordingly.
Captain John (Ivan) Cobbold was instrumental in the club turning professional, being matey with Arsenal’s Hill-Wood, but there was pressure outside of him for the club to do so or see it split (Leonard P Thompson & co? Sorry, hazy memory). Ipswich and Suffolk was ripe for professional football. Captain Cobbold sadly died when the Guards Chapel, near the current MoJ was bombed in 44.
Yes, the Cobbolds were excellent in their time, especially in who they employed to manage. Clearly great judges of people who they left to get on with it. But their world was a closed one and the club a personal fiefdom really, albeit benign. Nearly all owners were local businessmen of some description or other, some ‘old money’ some new - see The Damned United’.
ITFC were lucky in the Cobbolds - Allan Hunter’s view of them (see the book) says it all. They were clearly lovely, fun people.
But their time, along with patrician largess has mostly disappeared. No, football isn’t the same and your sepia, loving view of the world is wrong. Regardless, that world has changed - much of it for the better.
Ashton was known to the owners but was employed after the takeover in June 2021. Much of the takeover work from Evans’ graveyard was done by O’Leary, I believe. Yes, he is paid well. So what. It’s 2024 and his income isn’t derived from breweries, pubs and half the land of Suffolk.
Whatever his failings, to describe Mark Ashton as ‘a spiv’ is unpleasant, nasty, fundamentally wrong and actually reflects more on you than him. [Post edited 7 Nov 2024 14:03]
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 14:19 - Nov 7 with 3633 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 14:02 - Nov 7 by Churchman |
The Cobbolds were different people in a different time. They’d recognise Jacob Reece Mogg, but not necessarily like him (Eton etc). They certainly wouldn’t recognise much else. They were at the top of the social pile (grandsons of the Duke of Devonshire - Chatsworth etc) and educated accordingly.
Captain John (Ivan) Cobbold was instrumental in the club turning professional, being matey with Arsenal’s Hill-Wood, but there was pressure outside of him for the club to do so or see it split (Leonard P Thompson & co? Sorry, hazy memory). Ipswich and Suffolk was ripe for professional football. Captain Cobbold sadly died when the Guards Chapel, near the current MoJ was bombed in 44.
Yes, the Cobbolds were excellent in their time, especially in who they employed to manage. Clearly great judges of people who they left to get on with it. But their world was a closed one and the club a personal fiefdom really, albeit benign. Nearly all owners were local businessmen of some description or other, some ‘old money’ some new - see The Damned United’.
ITFC were lucky in the Cobbolds - Allan Hunter’s view of them (see the book) says it all. They were clearly lovely, fun people.
But their time, along with patrician largess has mostly disappeared. No, football isn’t the same and your sepia, loving view of the world is wrong. Regardless, that world has changed - much of it for the better.
Ashton was known to the owners but was employed after the takeover in June 2021. Much of the takeover work from Evans’ graveyard was done by O’Leary, I believe. Yes, he is paid well. So what. It’s 2024 and his income isn’t derived from breweries, pubs and half the land of Suffolk.
Whatever his failings, to describe Mark Ashton as ‘a spiv’ is unpleasant, nasty, fundamentally wrong and actually reflects more on you than him. [Post edited 7 Nov 2024 14:03]
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You seem to have lost sight of the original ill-informed and inaccurate post comparing an altruistic gentleman of Suffolk with an a money=grabbing outsider with little or no interest in the club other than using it as a money-making vehicle for some offshore owners of dubious provenance.
My suggestion that Ashton is more similar to Sheepshanks is a bit more accurate - though maybe even Sheepshanks wouldn’t have moaned about referees - though I suspect he wishes he’d thought people could be persuaded to buy a third shirt.
If spiv doesn’t float your boat - a comment based on Ashton’s apparent indifference to the laws of the game then maybe second hand car salesman or extra from a bad episode of The Office might be more palatable? | |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 16:05 - Nov 7 with 3429 views | borge |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 12:15 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
The key difference is that John Cobbold was not running a local club set up by his family for anything other than his love for the club. - and belief in doing it’ the right way’
Ashton identified Ipswich as a rotting carcass ripe for ‘investment’ and has made a lot of money playing to the gullible public whilst meeting his US masters financial demands.
I’d suggest Ashton is actually a clone of Sheepshanks who cynically used the club for personal gain and gladhanding at the FA whilst taking his eye off the ball - something Ashton is in danger of doing with his current play acting |
I don't like Ashton and think he has made a number of miss-steps since promotion. I am also not keen on his desire to be front and centre.
However, it's clear he is absolutely passionate about the club. He works tirelessly for the benefit of the club and ultimately us as fans. No-one has come close to his efforts and definitely not his success for over two decades (arguably longer). You don't have to like someone to appreciate and be grateful for their efforts and frankly, you'd need to be a bit of a kn0b not to be thankful for what he has done. | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 16:06 - Nov 7 with 3422 views | borge |
Not sure if Amazon has implemented some form of dynamic pricing and your post has created a rush on the Mr John book, but that link takes me through to a version that is £361.99....! | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 17:02 - Nov 7 with 3316 views | 66notout |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 10:57 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
Bit of an insult to compare a spiv like Ashton to Mr John old boy. |
Hear hear! | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 17:11 - Nov 7 with 3289 views | Stewart27 |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 12:15 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
The key difference is that John Cobbold was not running a local club set up by his family for anything other than his love for the club. - and belief in doing it’ the right way’
Ashton identified Ipswich as a rotting carcass ripe for ‘investment’ and has made a lot of money playing to the gullible public whilst meeting his US masters financial demands.
I’d suggest Ashton is actually a clone of Sheepshanks who cynically used the club for personal gain and gladhanding at the FA whilst taking his eye off the ball - something Ashton is in danger of doing with his current play acting |
You are incorrect in everything you say.
Your hatred for our club is really weird. | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 18:17 - Nov 8 with 2760 views | EdwardF |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 10:57 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
Bit of an insult to compare a spiv like Ashton to Mr John old boy. |
The Oxford Dictionary definition of a Spiv is:
''a man, typically a flashy dresser, who makes a living by disreputable dealings''
I really hope Mark Ashton is alerted to your post partcularly the last element of your post where you have accused him of ''making a living by disreputable means'' |  |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 19:46 - Nov 8 with 2644 views | Whos_blue |
It's only really the usual bell ends and edge lords that have a thing about Aston. I heard his interview the other day and was genuinely impressed.
I know the OP is not making the comparison between the two that others have leapt on.
They're a generation apart and incomparable. Just different times.
The squalid mire left by Evans nearly fcked this ckub.
Ashton and others have been instrumental in our rise both on and off the pitch.
Why some choose to post the bobbins they do about the fella is just odd.
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 20:23 - Nov 8 with 2575 views | TheBoyBlue |
I suspect he would annoy me immensely if he was Norwich CEO, but I'm glad he's on our side! | |
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 06:28 - Nov 9 with 2312 views | franz_tyson |
Does Mark Ashton get a lot of stick? Pretty much everyone thinks he's doing a great job. | | | |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 07:30 - Nov 9 with 2254 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 12:15 - Nov 7 by ElephantintheRoom |
The key difference is that John Cobbold was not running a local club set up by his family for anything other than his love for the club. - and belief in doing it’ the right way’
Ashton identified Ipswich as a rotting carcass ripe for ‘investment’ and has made a lot of money playing to the gullible public whilst meeting his US masters financial demands.
I’d suggest Ashton is actually a clone of Sheepshanks who cynically used the club for personal gain and gladhanding at the FA whilst taking his eye off the ball - something Ashton is in danger of doing with his current play acting |
I don’t have a problem with him earning a salary for doing a job. Wait until you find out how much the players earn for having a kick about.
You seem unhealthily obsessed and it sounds like you’d like us to fail under him. Although this still post is still my favourite Ashton rant, from back in his first full season.
Some people on here are dazzled by Mark Ashton. by MaySixth 14 Dec 2021 8:59I'm not suite sure why.
He plays the PR/media game well which is easy.
He has loads of money to spend so getting all those players in the summer was not particularly difficult.
He sacked Cook without a Plan A which is baffling.
When is he the target?
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 07:55 - Nov 9 with 2220 views | Churchman |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 07:30 - Nov 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t have a problem with him earning a salary for doing a job. Wait until you find out how much the players earn for having a kick about.
You seem unhealthily obsessed and it sounds like you’d like us to fail under him. Although this still post is still my favourite Ashton rant, from back in his first full season.
Some people on here are dazzled by Mark Ashton. by MaySixth 14 Dec 2021 8:59I'm not suite sure why.
He plays the PR/media game well which is easy.
He has loads of money to spend so getting all those players in the summer was not particularly difficult.
He sacked Cook without a Plan A which is baffling.
When is he the target?
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The poster concerned loathes the club which is why I believe he’s a Norwich supporter with a fixation. If I wanted to write a blog about our canary friends and pass myself off as a supporter before dripping poison, I could research and write one in no time, thanks to the wonders of the internet.
It is noticeable how the volume of bile increases when we are not doing well. In his excitement over our disappointment this year, he’s even started to argue the toss about stuff. There weren’t too many posts last season but a fair torrent this.
It's just plain odd, as is the forelock tugging to a bygone, sepia tinted age and the patricians that ran it. If you hate something that much, surely you walk away and follow/do something else?
The CEO should be earning whatever the going rate is for the job and of course be held accountable for what he does. I don’t know, but I get the impression that the ITFC is controlled pretty tightly from on high. In other words, the football club is backed, supported and allowed to manage its business without interference, but it and he had better deliver. It’s the American way. [Post edited 9 Nov 2024 7:59]
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| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 09:52 - Nov 9 with 2063 views | trncbluearmy |
| I know Mark Ashton comes in for a bit of stick on 07:55 - Nov 9 by Churchman |
The poster concerned loathes the club which is why I believe he’s a Norwich supporter with a fixation. If I wanted to write a blog about our canary friends and pass myself off as a supporter before dripping poison, I could research and write one in no time, thanks to the wonders of the internet.
It is noticeable how the volume of bile increases when we are not doing well. In his excitement over our disappointment this year, he’s even started to argue the toss about stuff. There weren’t too many posts last season but a fair torrent this.
It's just plain odd, as is the forelock tugging to a bygone, sepia tinted age and the patricians that ran it. If you hate something that much, surely you walk away and follow/do something else?
The CEO should be earning whatever the going rate is for the job and of course be held accountable for what he does. I don’t know, but I get the impression that the ITFC is controlled pretty tightly from on high. In other words, the football club is backed, supported and allowed to manage its business without interference, but it and he had better deliver. It’s the American way. [Post edited 9 Nov 2024 7:59]
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Think he is/was a Town fan
Suspect he is the same bloke who use to rant on about supporter ownership at AGM's in the old days.
Was a lone looney/lonely voice then and so he remains,
now Lost in France I believe.
Probably should have been banned a long time ago with his constant references to Ponzi schemes and spivs |  | | |
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