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Current state of things for international break 14:36 - Nov 11 with 3402 viewsitfcjoe

Home:
GK - Walton
FB - H.Clarke, Davis, Johnson, Townsend, Tuanzebe
CB - Woolfenden, Greaves
CM - Morsy, Phillips, Cajuste, Taylor, Luongo
W/10 - Burns, Chaplin, J.Clarke
CF - Hirst

Away:
GK - Muric, Slicker
FB -
CB - Burgess, O'Shea
CM -
W/10 - Hutchinson, Szmodics, Broadhead
CF - Al-Hamadi, Delap

Injured:
Ogbene

Would it be greedy to suggest that O'Shea, and one of Delap or Hutchinson at least could pull out as well?!
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Current state of things for international break on 14:37 - Nov 11 with 2951 viewsReuser_is_God

O’Shea really ought to pull out with his back injury.

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Current state of things for international break on 14:40 - Nov 11 with 2924 viewstextbackup

Off topic, but I thought yesterday was probably Omari’s best game for us. Felt like he ran for 90mins, aggressive with and without the ball, and really direct.

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Current state of things for international break on 14:41 - Nov 11 with 2891 viewsMuncher

Current state of things for international break on 14:37 - Nov 11 by Reuser_is_God

O’Shea really ought to pull out with his back injury.


Harry Clarke will be delighted with his England call up. Also as impressive as Morsy is being simulataneously at home and away is a good trick!
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Current state of things for international break on 14:41 - Nov 11 with 2886 viewsitfcjoe

Current state of things for international break on 14:37 - Nov 11 by Reuser_is_God

O’Shea really ought to pull out with his back injury.


Yep, if it is as bad as suggested then a break is definitely needed - he was excellent yesterday

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Current state of things for international break on 14:42 - Nov 11 with 2887 viewsITFC_Forever

Was AAH called up?

He was spotted at services on the M1 yesterday evening, so I presumed he was on his way back to Merseyside for a few days.

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Current state of things for international break on 14:43 - Nov 11 with 2859 viewsITFC_Forever

Current state of things for international break on 14:41 - Nov 11 by Muncher

Harry Clarke will be delighted with his England call up. Also as impressive as Morsy is being simulataneously at home and away is a good trick!


Davis as well.

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Current state of things for international break on 14:45 - Nov 11 with 2826 views_clive_baker_

Am I being a numpty, what's the distinction between home and away and why are H. Clarke, Davis and Morsy in both?
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Current state of things for international break on 14:46 - Nov 11 with 2819 viewsitfcjoe

Current state of things for international break on 14:40 - Nov 11 by textbackup

Off topic, but I thought yesterday was probably Omari’s best game for us. Felt like he ran for 90mins, aggressive with and without the ball, and really direct.


He was the best player on the pitch, whcih considering what we were up against is pretty incredible.

The way he fought through the challenge for 2nd goal showed what was coming, but he was able to manage that game so well. Just beating player, running away from them, winning cheap free kicks......that boy is going to the very top

He's put a picture on his Insta of 4-5 players chasing him that looks so good, this one here is great too

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1tRjjL.img?w=768&h

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Current state of things for international break on 14:46 - Nov 11 with 2794 viewsJakeITFC

Current state of things for international break on 14:40 - Nov 11 by textbackup

Off topic, but I thought yesterday was probably Omari’s best game for us. Felt like he ran for 90mins, aggressive with and without the ball, and really direct.


Built for this level.
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Current state of things for international break on 14:47 - Nov 11 with 2765 viewsitfcjoe

Current state of things for international break on 14:45 - Nov 11 by _clive_baker_

Am I being a numpty, what's the distinction between home and away and why are H. Clarke, Davis and Morsy in both?


Basically I realised when I got to Morsy those 3 were in the wrong list....but copied and pasted opposed to cut and pasted!

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Current state of things for international break on 14:48 - Nov 11 with 2728 viewsPhilTWTD

Current state of things for international break on 14:47 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe

Basically I realised when I got to Morsy those 3 were in the wrong list....but copied and pasted opposed to cut and pasted!


Got me checking to see I hadn't missed Morsy getting a call!
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Current state of things for international break on 14:50 - Nov 11 with 2689 views_clive_baker_

Current state of things for international break on 14:47 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe

Basically I realised when I got to Morsy those 3 were in the wrong list....but copied and pasted opposed to cut and pasted!


Got it, thought I was reading it wrong.

I think going on international duty is a positive thing, it'll be great for Hutchinson and Delap to be in and amongst that talented England squad again and be competing with Netherlands and Spain. Obviously the main thing is they all come back fit.
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Current state of things for international break on 14:50 - Nov 11 with 2686 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

I wouldnt want them to pull out.

Hopefully they absolutely love playing for their national teams.

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Current state of things for international break on 14:52 - Nov 11 with 2659 views_clive_baker_

Current state of things for international break on 14:46 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe

He was the best player on the pitch, whcih considering what we were up against is pretty incredible.

The way he fought through the challenge for 2nd goal showed what was coming, but he was able to manage that game so well. Just beating player, running away from them, winning cheap free kicks......that boy is going to the very top

He's put a picture on his Insta of 4-5 players chasing him that looks so good, this one here is great too

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1tRjjL.img?w=768&h


He was absolutely Sue Perb. That for me is exactly why he needs to play centrally, there's been loads of noise about him playing on the right but he's such a dangerous carrier of the ball and brings what nobody else in our squad can bring us there.
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Current state of things for international break on 14:56 - Nov 11 with 2591 viewsSheffordBlue

I think this is accurate for when you might be able to watch the international call ups in action:

Thur 14 Nov
0900 - Burgess - Australia vs Saudi Arabia - World Cup Qualification
1615 - Al-Hamadi - Iraq vs Jordan - World Cup Qualification
1945 - O'Shea/Szmodics - Ireland vs Finland - UEFA Nations League

Fri 15 Nov
1730 - Delap/Hutchinson - Spain U21 vs England U21
1945 - Muric - Romania vs Kosovo - UEFA Nations League
1945 - Slicker - Scotland vs Croatia - UEFA Nations League

Sat 16 Nov
1700 - Broadhead - Turkey vs Wales - UEFA Nations League

Sun 17 Nov
1700 - O'Shea/Szmodics - England vs Ireland - UEFA Nations League

Monday 18 Nov
1745 - Delap/Hutchinson - Netherlands U21 vs England U21
1945 - Slicker - Poland vs Scotland UEFA Nations League

Tue 19 Nov
1600 - Al-Hamadi - Oman vs Iraq - World Cup Qualification
1815 - Burgess - Bahrain vs Australia - World Cup Qualification
1945 - Broadhead - Wales vs Iceland - UEFA Nations League
1945 - Muric - Kosovo vs Lithuania - UEFA Nations League

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Current state of things for international break on 15:14 - Nov 11 with 2488 viewsMK1

I thought I read somewhere that Cam Burgess had retired from International football. Another for the long list of things I have dreamt.

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Current state of things for international break on 15:39 - Nov 11 with 2360 viewsBlueBadger

Current state of things for international break on 14:46 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe

He was the best player on the pitch, whcih considering what we were up against is pretty incredible.

The way he fought through the challenge for 2nd goal showed what was coming, but he was able to manage that game so well. Just beating player, running away from them, winning cheap free kicks......that boy is going to the very top

He's put a picture on his Insta of 4-5 players chasing him that looks so good, this one here is great too

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1tRjjL.img?w=768&h


I say this as a statement of great praise, but I absolutely heard the Benny Hill theme in my head when I opened that image.

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Current state of things for international break on 15:48 - Nov 11 with 2333 viewsBlueOura

Current state of things for international break on 14:52 - Nov 11 by _clive_baker_

He was absolutely Sue Perb. That for me is exactly why he needs to play centrally, there's been loads of noise about him playing on the right but he's such a dangerous carrier of the ball and brings what nobody else in our squad can bring us there.


Yes lots of noise and moaning on here yesterday when the teams were announced and Chappers wasn't starting in the 10 role. The same posters went rather quiet on the subject a couple of hours later!
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Current state of things for international break on 15:53 - Nov 11 with 2299 viewsSteve_M

Current state of things for international break on 14:52 - Nov 11 by _clive_baker_

He was absolutely Sue Perb. That for me is exactly why he needs to play centrally, there's been loads of noise about him playing on the right but he's such a dangerous carrier of the ball and brings what nobody else in our squad can bring us there.


Definitely, going back to the Liverpool match it was him and Delap who caused them any problems. Yesterday he was pushed up alongside, or sometimes even ahead of Delap, depending on where we were pressing. Such a mature footballer and only going to get better.

There have been times when Omari's game hasn't quite come off this season but, given the step up, that's not too surprising. A lot of yesterday was just excellent.

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Current state of things for international break on 16:13 - Nov 11 with 2187 views_clive_baker_

Current state of things for international break on 15:53 - Nov 11 by Steve_M

Definitely, going back to the Liverpool match it was him and Delap who caused them any problems. Yesterday he was pushed up alongside, or sometimes even ahead of Delap, depending on where we were pressing. Such a mature footballer and only going to get better.

There have been times when Omari's game hasn't quite come off this season but, given the step up, that's not too surprising. A lot of yesterday was just excellent.


I had the same thought about Liverpool, and Man City to a lesser extent. I said at the time he looked about the only one who perhaps wouldn't have looked out of place in their side rather than ours, which given the opposition is praise indeed. Not to say he'll be on it every week as he's still young and finding his feet, but his ceiling is so high. Similar for Delap, and if we get those wider roles right we should continue to have a very dangerous attacking threat. Szmodics is staking the biggest claim on one side with Leif, the other side is perhaps more up for grabs.
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Current state of things for international break on 16:21 - Nov 11 with 2143 viewsIllinoisblue

Current state of things for international break on 15:14 - Nov 11 by MK1

I thought I read somewhere that Cam Burgess had retired from International football. Another for the long list of things I have dreamt.


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Current state of things for international break on 16:28 - Nov 11 with 2102 viewsFrimleyBlue

Current state of things for international break on 14:52 - Nov 11 by _clive_baker_

He was absolutely Sue Perb. That for me is exactly why he needs to play centrally, there's been loads of noise about him playing on the right but he's such a dangerous carrier of the ball and brings what nobody else in our squad can bring us there.


Alot of his work came down the right. He wasn't central. We used him correctly yesterday in a role which brought out the best in him. I didn't like some the previous games with him playing with a burns or ogbene as he would stay too central and we didn't get the best use out of him.

Yesterday's formation has to be our go to from now on. It had everything.


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Current state of things for international break on 16:47 - Nov 11 with 1991 views_clive_baker_

Current state of things for international break on 16:28 - Nov 11 by FrimleyBlue

Alot of his work came down the right. He wasn't central. We used him correctly yesterday in a role which brought out the best in him. I didn't like some the previous games with him playing with a burns or ogbene as he would stay too central and we didn't get the best use out of him.

Yesterday's formation has to be our go to from now on. It had everything.


[Post edited 11 Nov 2024 16:29]


That's been true of pretty much every game this season, his bias is to operate right when you see the heat maps, which I presume is by design. Its very different lining up as we did yesterday and him having that licence vs. him being the out and out right sided replacement for Burns / Ogbene though as some suggested which I can't agree with. Otherwise there's no red in the centre of that heat map. The 2nd goal is case in point, he's not getting the white of the right hand touchline on his boots, he's skipping away from a challenge in the centre circle, driving forward on the left and playing in Szmodics. Yesterday was a bit different with a naturally less attacking Johnson which effectively doubled as a back 5 at times.

Omari's so dangerous I think you need him where he can hurt the opposition 180 degrees. Any wider and he's only hurting them 90 degrees left.
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Current state of things for international break on 16:48 - Nov 11 with 1981 viewsLankHenners

Current state of things for international break on 14:52 - Nov 11 by _clive_baker_

He was absolutely Sue Perb. That for me is exactly why he needs to play centrally, there's been loads of noise about him playing on the right but he's such a dangerous carrier of the ball and brings what nobody else in our squad can bring us there.


Yeah and without wanting to be too blunt I think people need to open their eyes a bit with him to see how he's actually playing the role. He spends a lot of time drifting out to the right as has every player we've played in that position since McKenna's been here but starting from that central position is a lot different to actually being on the right from the off.

Also seems pretty clear what attributes he has over Chaplin in that role and why he's starting more than him, not that there won't be times when Chaplin's set of skills might come in handy.

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Current state of things for international break on 16:52 - Nov 11 with 1944 views_clive_baker_

Current state of things for international break on 16:48 - Nov 11 by LankHenners

Yeah and without wanting to be too blunt I think people need to open their eyes a bit with him to see how he's actually playing the role. He spends a lot of time drifting out to the right as has every player we've played in that position since McKenna's been here but starting from that central position is a lot different to actually being on the right from the off.

Also seems pretty clear what attributes he has over Chaplin in that role and why he's starting more than him, not that there won't be times when Chaplin's set of skills might come in handy.


Exactly right.
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