| Friday philosophical question... 12:54 - Nov 29 with 1691 views | homer_123 |
...given what is being debated at the moment (regardless of which side you are on).
Do you think there is anything after this life? |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 12:55 - Nov 29 with 1668 views | Help |
Nope |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 12:58 - Nov 29 with 1656 views | WeWereZombies |
Yes there is, for those still alive. So a correct moral set of actions is, in my view, to do what you can to leave conditions better than they were when you were born. Sorry for not commenting on the possibilities of an after life but no one has ever come back to tell us about it so there is no evidence based reason to speculate on the matter (plenty of reasons that are not evidence based but most of them are a bit self centred,) |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 13:00 - Nov 29 with 1638 views | StokieBlue |
For the individual - No.
However matter is never destroyed so the building blocks of what constituted "you" will endure and form something completely different.
Every atom in your body was created in a star, at a base level we are all made of stars.
The late Carl Sagan summed it up nicely:
"The cosmos is within us. We are made of star-stuff. We are a way for the universe to know itself.”
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| Friday philosophical question... on 13:12 - Nov 29 with 1576 views | bsw72 |
Depends on what you consider to be "this life".
From a materialist perspective, life is a complex arrangement of physical matter and biological processes. Dualism suggests that life consists of both a physical body and a non-physical mind or soul, emphasizing the interplay between the two. Existentialism posits that life has no inherent meaning, and it is up to each individual to create their own purpose through choices and actions.
Phenomenology focuses on the subjective experience of life, highlighting how we perceive and interpret our existence. In contrast, Buddhism views life as a cycle of suffering influenced by desire, with the goal of achieving enlightenment by transcending attachments.
Teleological perspectives suggest that life has a purpose or end goal, while humanism emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, advocating for reason and ethics. Lastly, naturalism sees life as a product of evolutionary processes, grounded in the natural world.
Ultimately, I consider "this life" to be a mix of experiences, choices, and relationships, shaped by both our physical and spritual existence . . . as for what's next, I want to believe there is something, but have no empirical evidence to support my belief. [Post edited 29 Nov 2024 13:13]
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| Friday philosophical question... on 13:14 - Nov 29 with 1566 views | J2BLUE |
Genuinely not sure anymore. I think there are things we don't understand. It's a rabbit hole that could take your entire lifetime and barely scratch the surface of theories, ideas and possibilities.
It fascinates me. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 13:40 - Nov 29 with 1489 views | Illinoisblue |
The amazing and wonderful thing is, we’ll never know. Until we do. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 13:44 - Nov 29 with 1474 views | WeWereZombies |
| Friday philosophical question... on 13:12 - Nov 29 by bsw72 |
Depends on what you consider to be "this life".
From a materialist perspective, life is a complex arrangement of physical matter and biological processes. Dualism suggests that life consists of both a physical body and a non-physical mind or soul, emphasizing the interplay between the two. Existentialism posits that life has no inherent meaning, and it is up to each individual to create their own purpose through choices and actions.
Phenomenology focuses on the subjective experience of life, highlighting how we perceive and interpret our existence. In contrast, Buddhism views life as a cycle of suffering influenced by desire, with the goal of achieving enlightenment by transcending attachments.
Teleological perspectives suggest that life has a purpose or end goal, while humanism emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, advocating for reason and ethics. Lastly, naturalism sees life as a product of evolutionary processes, grounded in the natural world.
Ultimately, I consider "this life" to be a mix of experiences, choices, and relationships, shaped by both our physical and spritual existence . . . as for what's next, I want to believe there is something, but have no empirical evidence to support my belief. [Post edited 29 Nov 2024 13:13]
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Do you think that the materialist perspective is an example of the Black Swan hypothesis ?
Materialists will claim that the immaterial does not exist (but what is an idea if not an immaterial thing that just needs material like a pen and paper or speech act to transmit it) and, should something like dark energy prove (if dark energy can be proven) the immaterial, then materialists will seek to rationalise it with hindsight ~ even though it will no longer be possible to rationally hold a completely materialist view. | |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 13:52 - Nov 29 with 1455 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Having read some interesting books/watched some interesting documentaries on the subject (Afterlife For The Atheist by Gerry Connelly/Surviving Death on Netflix) I believe there's enough that's unexplainable which suggests there very well could be.
This isn't just wishful thinking BTW, and I'm not religious. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 14:31 - Nov 29 with 1353 views | bsw72 |
| Friday philosophical question... on 13:44 - Nov 29 by WeWereZombies |
Do you think that the materialist perspective is an example of the Black Swan hypothesis ?
Materialists will claim that the immaterial does not exist (but what is an idea if not an immaterial thing that just needs material like a pen and paper or speech act to transmit it) and, should something like dark energy prove (if dark energy can be proven) the immaterial, then materialists will seek to rationalise it with hindsight ~ even though it will no longer be possible to rationally hold a completely materialist view. |
No, that's an over simplification of a far more complex scenario. The materialist perspective itself is not an example of the Black Swan hypothesis, but it can be related to the broader discussion of how we understand and interpret unexpected events. | | | |
| Friday philosophical question... on 15:21 - Nov 29 with 1317 views | J2BLUE |
| Friday philosophical question... on 13:40 - Nov 29 by Illinoisblue |
The amazing and wonderful thing is, we’ll never know. Until we do. |
So you're just going to dismiss the evidence of mediums, psychics and fortune tellers?
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| Friday philosophical question... on 15:28 - Nov 29 with 1295 views | WeWereZombies |
| Friday philosophical question... on 14:31 - Nov 29 by bsw72 |
No, that's an over simplification of a far more complex scenario. The materialist perspective itself is not an example of the Black Swan hypothesis, but it can be related to the broader discussion of how we understand and interpret unexpected events. |
Is it over simplification, he says as he brings out Occam's razor and shaves away the entities multiplied beyond necessity ? Which is why I gave the example of an idea existing independently of the medium that is used to communicate it. | |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 15:33 - Nov 29 with 1281 views | Illinoisblue |
| Friday philosophical question... on 15:21 - Nov 29 by J2BLUE |
So you're just going to dismiss the evidence of mediums, psychics and fortune tellers?
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I need one of those fortune telling fish from a Xmas cracker before making a final decision. | |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 15:48 - Nov 29 with 1247 views | blueasfook |
| Friday philosophical question... on 15:21 - Nov 29 by J2BLUE |
So you're just going to dismiss the evidence of mediums, psychics and fortune tellers?
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Derek Acorah had me convinced, have to say. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 15:54 - Nov 29 with 1222 views | Illinoisblue |
| Friday philosophical question... on 15:48 - Nov 29 by blueasfook |
Derek Acorah had me convinced, have to say. |
And let’s not disrespect Mystic Meg, either. She never got the lottery numbers right in the News of the World but let’s not hold that against her. | |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 16:13 - Nov 29 with 1185 views | hype313 |
No, I just think what happens to us when we die is what happened to us before we were born. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 16:18 - Nov 29 with 1177 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Friday philosophical question... on 16:13 - Nov 29 by hype313 |
No, I just think what happens to us when we die is what happened to us before we were born. |
You mean being part of one great consciousness, yeah? | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 16:20 - Nov 29 with 1172 views | blueasfook |
| Friday philosophical question... on 15:54 - Nov 29 by Illinoisblue |
And let’s not disrespect Mystic Meg, either. She never got the lottery numbers right in the News of the World but let’s not hold that against her. |
I seem to remember I fancied Mystic Meg | |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 16:48 - Nov 29 with 1123 views | wkj |
When we die, our bodies become the grass, and the antelope eat the grass. And so, we are all connected in the great Circle of Life. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 17:19 - Nov 29 with 1100 views | WeWereZombies |
| Friday philosophical question... on 16:48 - Nov 29 by wkj |
When we die, our bodies become the grass, and the antelope eat the grass. And so, we are all connected in the great Circle of Life. |
And as we get older we sleep a bit more, that's how I have become the lie in king... | |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 17:44 - Nov 29 with 1076 views | factual_blue |
The christian afterlife was essentially invented to enable the wealthy (including the church) to keep the poor in order by promising them wondrous things after death if they did what they were told.
I'm sure the same is true of most religions. |  |
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| Friday philosophical question... on 18:08 - Nov 29 with 1052 views | You_Bloo_Right |
"The real question of life after death isn't whether or not it exists, but even if it does what problem this really solves."
Wittgenstein |  |
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