| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? 11:21 - Jan 24 with 2251 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
Would anyone be going with Hirst over Delap tomorrow?
I think I would. Get some more minutes into Hirst in a game where it won't really favour Delap and he will probably pick up another cheap yellow out of frustration if he was playing the majority of the minutes. |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:24 - Jan 24 with 2197 views | Exiled2Surrey |
I was thinking the same - it will not be what they are expecting. Only issue to my mind is if we are still trying to build GH's minutes, might not be very wise to throw him in for 60/70.
So worst that can happen is he might aggravate something, the best is that he ends up providing a selection dilemma |  | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:28 - Jan 24 with 2131 views | Linners |
I did briefly wonder about this, but on balance I think I'd go with Delap. In a game where we'll be lucky to see 25% of the ball, I just feel he's the one most likely to suddenly produce a one-off moment that gets us a goal. |  | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:30 - Jan 24 with 2114 views | GlasgowBlue |
There is logic to it inasmuch as Hirst can hold the ball up better, which could give ur defence and midfield so valuable breathing space. However, Delap gave one of their defenders sucha. torrid time in the corresponding fixture that they had to substitute him.
I'm actually of the opinion that we should start Hirst up front and play Delap on the right for this game. |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:30 - Jan 24 with 2108 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:24 - Jan 24 by Exiled2Surrey |
I was thinking the same - it will not be what they are expecting. Only issue to my mind is if we are still trying to build GH's minutes, might not be very wise to throw him in for 60/70.
So worst that can happen is he might aggravate something, the best is that he ends up providing a selection dilemma |
If he's not fit enough to play 60minutes, then I'd be worried we've rushed him back into the squad.
Hirst will have another chance to build on his minutes in the FA Cup, so it's not the end of the world if we didn't use tomorrow as an opportunity to build up his minutes, but it's a game of hope over expectation that we pick up anything, but IF we are in the game by the 60th min, then Delap off the bench is a great option for us with his ball carrying. | |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:32 - Jan 24 with 2092 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:30 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
There is logic to it inasmuch as Hirst can hold the ball up better, which could give ur defence and midfield so valuable breathing space. However, Delap gave one of their defenders sucha. torrid time in the corresponding fixture that they had to substitute him.
I'm actually of the opinion that we should start Hirst up front and play Delap on the right for this game. |
Quansah won't play tomorrow. When they made that change at half time in the previous game, it was all Liverpool. Konate and Van Dijk are too good to be bullied by Delap. | |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:32 - Jan 24 with 2065 views | sotd78 |
I'd do somethnig really radical - like play them both - both out wide with a withdrawn centre player. Bang every clearance into the channels - has two possible effects - drags their centre halves out wide and possibly pins in the full backs too.
It's not likely we'll ever try that experiment but all my poor old brain can hear is Bill Shankly saying "put it in their half - they can't score from there".
Windy = hoof ball = level playing field = lucky ol' Ipswich! |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:33 - Jan 24 with 2053 views | NthQldITFC |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:30 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
There is logic to it inasmuch as Hirst can hold the ball up better, which could give ur defence and midfield so valuable breathing space. However, Delap gave one of their defenders sucha. torrid time in the corresponding fixture that they had to substitute him.
I'm actually of the opinion that we should start Hirst up front and play Delap on the right for this game. |
Yeah, I'm tempted by the hold up play better aspect, but I'd not put Delap anywhere else than on the bench for the last 30 minutes in place of Hirst. |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:36 - Jan 24 with 2015 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:33 - Jan 24 by NthQldITFC |
Yeah, I'm tempted by the hold up play better aspect, but I'd not put Delap anywhere else than on the bench for the last 30 minutes in place of Hirst. |
Walton
Tuanzebe O'Shea Burgess
Johnson Morsy Cajuste Davis
Omari Hirst Philogene
Probably what I'd look at. Maybe Greaves for Burgess, maybe Phillips from the start and maybe Broady for Philogene, but we'll see. | |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 12:18 - Jan 24 with 1790 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I'd like to see KM try Hirst as 9 and Delap as a 10 in one game. |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 12:20 - Jan 24 with 1765 views | ArnieM |
Hirst for me too. Liverpool are expecting it to be Delap. I’d bring him in on 70 mins to run at them. |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 12:26 - Jan 24 with 1712 views | greyhound |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:24 - Jan 24 by Exiled2Surrey |
I was thinking the same - it will not be what they are expecting. Only issue to my mind is if we are still trying to build GH's minutes, might not be very wise to throw him in for 60/70.
So worst that can happen is he might aggravate something, the best is that he ends up providing a selection dilemma |
It's negative I know but aside from some pressing it's going to be quiet up top tomorrow and 45 minutes could easily result in under 10 touches for whoever plays in the 9.
We can not write the game off as we need any points possible but tomorrow is one that we never expected 3 points from, play hirst for 45 or 60 mins and roll the dice | | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 12:27 - Jan 24 with 1704 views | TractorJack |
If Hirst was up to speed I'd say yes but we could be out of the game by 60 mins and Delap is pretty much our only player who can produce a goal (or at least shots) out of nothing. |  | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 12:47 - Jan 24 with 1590 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 12:26 - Jan 24 by greyhound |
It's negative I know but aside from some pressing it's going to be quiet up top tomorrow and 45 minutes could easily result in under 10 touches for whoever plays in the 9.
We can not write the game off as we need any points possible but tomorrow is one that we never expected 3 points from, play hirst for 45 or 60 mins and roll the dice |
That's the thought process I had too.
Another thought is Hirst's height on set pieces too, VVD and Konate are the stand out targets, but Gakpo and Gravenberch aren't small either.
Whilst Delap is the main man, Hirst still has a big role to play. I'm not so sure we do sign another striker, so keeping Hirst sharp is just as important as not over exposing Delap. | |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 13:06 - Jan 24 with 1470 views | victorysquad |
I like the idea, mainly for the reason that if we have a starting 11 that can hold them in the 1st half, and we know we have a very strong bench of players to bring on, that gives us a psychological edge.
What is interesting about Hirst in particular of course, is that he allows us to play the system that bought us a lot of success. I think players like Burns and Omari are more effective in that type of system.
Delap makes us play a very different style which is more about him breaking and running hard against the opposition defence. Sammy is more geared up for this sort of playing style as well.
So we do have two entirely different attacking styles. The original 'Hirst' style hold up play, feed wingers, cut back score, is more effective imo. The 'Delap' system only works well if Delap is on fire. [Post edited 24 Jan 13:09]
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 13:13 - Jan 24 with 1386 views | Vic |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 11:30 - Jan 24 by GlasgowBlue |
There is logic to it inasmuch as Hirst can hold the ball up better, which could give ur defence and midfield so valuable breathing space. However, Delap gave one of their defenders sucha. torrid time in the corresponding fixture that they had to substitute him.
I'm actually of the opinion that we should start Hirst up front and play Delap on the right for this game. |
I like the sound of that, but i have a problem. I don't see Hirst being ready for 90 mins, and I'd prefer for delap not to play 90. Take them off and what have we got to replace them with? OK, Billie Jean on the right, but we've nothing central. Yet! |  |
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| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 13:17 - Jan 24 with 1359 views | NeverSayDie |
Whilst it's easy to rationalise getting Hirst minutes, the idea that we go away to the best team in the league and start with a weakened side, effectively "rolling over" and giving them the win, is absolutely crazy and a sure fire way to concede 6, 7, 8 goals to none.
Nobody expects us to get anything from the game, other than a good pasting, so let's field the strongest side and try and win the game. If, despite our best efforts, we are getting hammered by half time, then chuck on some players for minutes, but this is a completely free hit and anything can happen in football, so let's take the game to them and try and get some points!!
COYB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 16:06 - Jan 24 with 1039 views | greyhound |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 13:17 - Jan 24 by NeverSayDie |
Whilst it's easy to rationalise getting Hirst minutes, the idea that we go away to the best team in the league and start with a weakened side, effectively "rolling over" and giving them the win, is absolutely crazy and a sure fire way to concede 6, 7, 8 goals to none.
Nobody expects us to get anything from the game, other than a good pasting, so let's field the strongest side and try and win the game. If, despite our best efforts, we are getting hammered by half time, then chuck on some players for minutes, but this is a completely free hit and anything can happen in football, so let's take the game to them and try and get some points!!
COYB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Sorry to disagree but the different between hirst and delap won't be the one that defines if we get a pasting. It may be the one that defines if we snatch a narrow win however | | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 16:15 - Jan 24 with 998 views | Cafe_Newman |
As much as I like GH, Delap will give the likes of Philogene, Omari and Julio more freedom. |  | | |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 16:24 - Jan 24 with 959 views | NeverSayDie |
| Hirst over Delap tomorrow? on 16:06 - Jan 24 by greyhound |
Sorry to disagree but the different between hirst and delap won't be the one that defines if we get a pasting. It may be the one that defines if we snatch a narrow win however |
There’s no harm in disagreeing, but I’m not even sure we are. We both think we have a better chance of goals with Delap playing, I’m just thinking a little beyond the OP Hirst/Delap question and what the wider implications might be. I think starting Hirst sends all the wrong signals to our own squad (pretty sure the new signings would be a bit miffed we started a crocked 2nd choice 9 over the player the whole Country is raving about) and the opposition, you don’t leave out your best performer and highest goal scorer in the toughest game of the season to date, we have to go into every game with the strongest side available and try and get points, Spurs and Chelsea prove we are capable and we should have had more from several others, Fulham springs to mind as the most recent one. If we somehow managed a point tomorrow, it could very well be the difference between relegation and survival, the psychological boost would be massive. | | | |
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