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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … 17:31 - Feb 23 with 1448 viewsVic

he doesn’t keep making 4, 5, 6, changes each game’ - this was Arsene Wenger just now on Pep’s Man City team this season.

Now, we’ve had a lot of injuries this season, but (and I may be wrong) even without these KM seems to have consistently changed his team this season. It’s not a moan or criticism, but it suggests that he isn’t completely sure of his best 11. It looks like he’s been searching for the winning formula. Or is it just the injuries.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:35 - Feb 23 with 1410 viewspointofblue

This is a huge issue we've had, and injuries only play a small part. Why overthink from the Villa line up? Why not simply bring in Woolfenden for Tuanzebe and Broadhead for Enciso but keep the rest of the line up the same? It felt like changes for the sake of it.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:41 - Feb 23 with 1370 viewsnorfsufblue

That's true but we all have our opinions about who and who shouldn't be playing as evidenced by all the suggested lineups on here.... I don't think we've had it easy this season in that respect and sometimes just 1 player missing causes more than one change.... the only one I really disagreed with was not rewarding Walton for his Liverpool performance in the first game when he was dropped for Muric.... especially after our experience last season
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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:41 - Feb 23 with 1371 viewsLankHenners

The only positions we've really changed about a bit of our own choice (i.e. not because of injury/suspension) has been GK and LAM/LW. You could argue RAM/RW but Burns and Ogbene would have shared the responsibility there for the most part if we'd have had both available.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:45 - Feb 23 with 1327 viewsSwansea_Blue

^what they’ve all said and were also not a winning team. We’re not changing for the fun of it. Kieran’s managing injuries and trying to find a way to buck a poor results streak at the same time. That’s very different from what Wenger has had to deal with.

He’s probably right if you’ve got an obvious 1st 11 that stays fit and injury free. Oh for such a luxury!

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 with 1274 viewspointofblue

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:45 - Feb 23 by Swansea_Blue

^what they’ve all said and were also not a winning team. We’re not changing for the fun of it. Kieran’s managing injuries and trying to find a way to buck a poor results streak at the same time. That’s very different from what Wenger has had to deal with.

He’s probably right if you’ve got an obvious 1st 11 that stays fit and injury free. Oh for such a luxury!


Can we name our first XI even if everyone was fit?

From February onwards last year, there's no question for me we could - Hladky, Tuanzebe, Davis, Woolfenden, Burgess, Morsy, Luongo, Hutchinson, Chaplin, Broadhead, Hirst

The only question was Burns or Hutchinson on the right/Chaplin or Hutchinson at ten.

What is our first choice XI this year?

Edit - Hladky, not Walton.
[Post edited 23 Feb 17:54]

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 with 1269 viewsstonojnr

Outside of their invincible season, I wonder how often Wenger stuck with that idea himself.

I suspect rotation featured more often than he might like to admit.


As for us I thought our whole squad philosophy was we have interchangeable players for each position so that you can rest players for various reasons.
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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 with 1269 viewsSaffronWaldenBlues

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:35 - Feb 23 by pointofblue

This is a huge issue we've had, and injuries only play a small part. Why overthink from the Villa line up? Why not simply bring in Woolfenden for Tuanzebe and Broadhead for Enciso but keep the rest of the line up the same? It felt like changes for the sake of it.


That’s what should have happened.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 with 1259 viewsFrimleyBlue

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:41 - Feb 23 by LankHenners

The only positions we've really changed about a bit of our own choice (i.e. not because of injury/suspension) has been GK and LAM/LW. You could argue RAM/RW but Burns and Ogbene would have shared the responsibility there for the most part if we'd have had both available.


Rcb and lcb have had changes when players weren't injured

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:51 - Feb 23 with 1244 viewsSwansea_Blue

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 by pointofblue

Can we name our first XI even if everyone was fit?

From February onwards last year, there's no question for me we could - Hladky, Tuanzebe, Davis, Woolfenden, Burgess, Morsy, Luongo, Hutchinson, Chaplin, Broadhead, Hirst

The only question was Burns or Hutchinson on the right/Chaplin or Hutchinson at ten.

What is our first choice XI this year?

Edit - Hladky, not Walton.
[Post edited 23 Feb 17:54]


I don’t think so, and that’s probably the main point. We’ve got no standout, best quality first 11. It comes back to points others have made about our recruitment not delivering players who are a clear improvement now. They may have higher ceilings/resale values, but the future’s no good to us right now.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:56 - Feb 23 with 1193 viewsFrimleyBlue

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 by pointofblue

Can we name our first XI even if everyone was fit?

From February onwards last year, there's no question for me we could - Hladky, Tuanzebe, Davis, Woolfenden, Burgess, Morsy, Luongo, Hutchinson, Chaplin, Broadhead, Hirst

The only question was Burns or Hutchinson on the right/Chaplin or Hutchinson at ten.

What is our first choice XI this year?

Edit - Hladky, not Walton.
[Post edited 23 Feb 17:54]


Palmer

Burns
Oshea
Wolfenden
Greaves
Davis

Morsy
Cajuste
Phillips

Delap
Hirst


5 3 2


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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 18:04 - Feb 23 with 1142 viewspointofblue

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:56 - Feb 23 by FrimleyBlue

Palmer

Burns
Oshea
Wolfenden
Greaves
Davis

Morsy
Cajuste
Phillips

Delap
Hirst


5 3 2


Then to finish you can throw on the flairs
[Post edited 23 Feb 17:57]


So now we shouldn't drop Delap?

In all seriousness, the issue is McKenna seems to veer away from a back three, so I can't agree with any first XI line up if it's based on that formation.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 18:08 - Feb 23 with 1125 viewsHerbivore

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 18:04 - Feb 23 by pointofblue

So now we shouldn't drop Delap?

In all seriousness, the issue is McKenna seems to veer away from a back three, so I can't agree with any first XI line up if it's based on that formation.


We've played a hybrid back three/four for pretty much McKenna's entire tenure. Sometimes it's picked with more emphasis on defence, sometimes it's a more progressive and attacking selection.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 18:10 - Feb 23 with 1110 viewsFrimleyBlue

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 18:04 - Feb 23 by pointofblue

So now we shouldn't drop Delap?

In all seriousness, the issue is McKenna seems to veer away from a back three, so I can't agree with any first XI line up if it's based on that formation.


Lol. Well we don't have a 3rd striker lol.

But no was just playing with a 5 3 2 set up.


I think based on KMs 4 2 3 1 and pretending we were playing the first game but with the current squad

Palmer

Tuanzebe
Oshea
Greaves
Davis

Phillips
Cajuste

Ogbene
Hutchinson
Julio

Delap

It's actually quite tough as you've got
Burns
Philogene
Szmodics
Hirst
Broadhead
Clarke
Chaplin
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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 19:09 - Feb 23 with 990 viewsitfcsuth

Whether due to injuries, suspension or poor form - has been an issue all season.

Was a bedrock of our success the core group - but has been ripped apart.

In February, and realistically we still don’t have a settled/best XI.
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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 09:02 - Feb 24 with 627 viewsNthQldITFC

I'll respectfully disagree with Arsene on that one.

There's no such thing as a best eleven; it's a stupid concept for a number of reasons:

1. Players' form goes up and down - confidence and fitness.
2. The 'best' eleven against Liverpool would not be the 'best' eleven against Southampton - formations, one-v-ones.
3. You need a squad up to speed to cope with injuries.

A good manager has an effective squad which works well together whichever combination of players are used, and where squad harmony is maintained by not constantly playing a 'best eleven' ahead of blokes who have shown good form during the week.

There's a bit of balance of course.

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‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 09:04 - Feb 24 with 613 viewsExiled2Surrey

‘In a winning team the manager knows his best 11 … on 17:49 - Feb 23 by SaffronWaldenBlues

That’s what should have happened.


Is it fair to point out that you might set your team up differently when playing 10 against 11 as opposed to when you are starting with 11?

Unless the argument is that in both cases we were playing with a team member fewer than the opposition, (on Saturday one of Spurs' 12 players was holding the whistle...)
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