| Next years squad 09:55 - Feb 28 with 5459 views | textbackup |
Keepers - Palmer, Walton, Muric (give to a charity shop)
Defenders - Burgess, Wolf, Townsend, Johnson, Greaves, O’Shea, Clarke, Axel
Midfield - Burns, Mass, Morsy, Taylor, Humpries, Ogbene
Attack - Chaplin, Broadhead, Omari, JP, Hirst, SS, Clarke
May have missed a name or two, but from who will likely still be here…
C.Midfield is a massive area to look at… is it? And need another striker (STILL)
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| Next years squad on 10:54 - Feb 28 with 1097 views | Horsham |
| Next years squad on 10:37 - Feb 28 by _clive_baker_ |
I'd like J. Clarke to stay, I think he could be huge next season.
Palmer
Tuanzebe Woolfenden Greaves Davis
? Morsy
Hutchinson Philogene Clarke
Hirst
Walton, Burgess, H.Clarke, Townsend, Burns, Humphreys, Taylor, Szmodics, Chaplin, Broadhead.
That looks strong, with a couple of choice additions, namely CM and ST. I imagine some of the above will leave, but it could largely be a 1 in, 1 out on those.
Assumes we could move on Johnson, Ogbene, O'Shea, Delap, Muric if there's a market for them. O'Shea and Delap are the 2 that will be most coveted I would think. |
Bearing in mind the 25 man limit and assuming all the loans go back and the ones we have out come back I think first 11/second 11 as it stands
Palmer/Walton
Axel/ Johnson
O’Shea/Woolfenden
Davis/Townsend
?/Morsy
?/Taylor
Jaden/Ogbene
Hutchison/Szmodics
Clarke/Broadhead
Delap/Hirst
23-25
? 3rd keeper
Chaplin
? Striker
Burns not registered until Jan then either becomes surplus or takes one of the attackers place.
Surplus
Muric
H Clarke
Baggot
Massimo
Humphreys
AAH
Without even considering sales or what division we’re in we need to be thinking of recruiting 2 centre mids and a striker and shifting the surplus players.
Potentially then looking at replacing
Certainty
Delap
Probable
Axel
Burgess
Possible
Omari
O’Shea
Davis
Morsy
Szmodics (as per Saudi rumour - credit Bloots)
So a min 4 in assuming Delap is a certain departure. |  | | |
| Next years squad on 10:55 - Feb 28 with 1101 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Next years squad on 10:48 - Feb 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Omari is the one for me. I just hope our valuation is higher than other clubs are willing to pay. McKenna staying would also be key to convincing him to give us a year as well I think. |
He'll tear up the Championship if he stays. We've probably got more cover now with Philogene, J. Clarke, Szmodics, Ogbene, Burns, Chaplin, Broady than we would've had before, but ideally he's the last one you would lose out of that crop. I can't see us having all 8 of those next season, I guess it just becomes a value equation and who the interest comes in for. |  | | |
| Next years squad on 10:56 - Feb 28 with 1095 views | TIB |
| Next years squad on 09:59 - Feb 28 by bobbyramsey |
You're assuming that Davis and Delap are on their way out?
CM is just a massive vacuum........ [Post edited 28 Feb 10:01]
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Flynniesta return surely to help the void? |  |
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| Next years squad on 11:06 - Feb 28 with 1059 views | gsoly |
| Next years squad on 10:50 - Feb 28 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Id be amazed if we saw much uplift on Omari.
Gibbs White had a few good seasons in the Prem when he was signed. |
Spurs paid £37m for Odobert. I don't think we as Town fans quite grasp the market - or how good some of our players are. Imagine Omari at Brighton, for instance. He would fight for a place in a lot of mid-table sides. He's comfortably a £35m+ player. |  | | |
| Next years squad on 11:12 - Feb 28 with 1012 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:06 - Feb 28 by gsoly |
Spurs paid £37m for Odobert. I don't think we as Town fans quite grasp the market - or how good some of our players are. Imagine Omari at Brighton, for instance. He would fight for a place in a lot of mid-table sides. He's comfortably a £35m+ player. |
Most reports suggest an initial fee of £25m for Odobert.
I could see us maybe getting £20-25m, but no more.
I hope youre right though. |  |
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| Next years squad on 11:12 - Feb 28 with 1011 views | John_Warks_Willy |
If we go down, pending squad movement isn’t too extensive we’ll clearly be strong.
My main concern is who our manager will be. Desperately hope KM stays though, which I don’t think is as far fetched as some think 🤞🤞🤞 |  |
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| Next years squad on 11:17 - Feb 28 with 978 views | LankHenners |
| Next years squad on 10:31 - Feb 28 by tractorboy1978 |
I can't see anyone taking Johnson on the money he is on. But he should be a more than competent full back at Championship level. I could see Morsy taking a big Saudi pay day this summer and O'Shea becoming captain. Our midfield is going to need a complete rebuild this summer whatever league we are in. |
While I think you have to be careful letting go of influential dressing room figures, I think if an offer like that was on the table for Morsy, I wouldn't be too bothered if he took it.
As you say centre midfield will need to undergo a fairly hefty reconstruction process anyway, and this summer's a good opportunity to do it as we're fairly well set everywhere else. |  |
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| Next years squad on 11:18 - Feb 28 with 975 views | DarkHorse |
| Next years squad on 11:12 - Feb 28 by John_Warks_Willy |
If we go down, pending squad movement isn’t too extensive we’ll clearly be strong.
My main concern is who our manager will be. Desperately hope KM stays though, which I don’t think is as far fetched as some think 🤞🤞🤞 |
KM will likely be here at the start of the season. Be surprised if he's still here once Prem Sacking Season starts though, sadly. |  | | |
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| Next years squad on 11:18 - Feb 28 with 968 views | bsw72 |
| Next years squad on 11:06 - Feb 28 by gsoly |
Spurs paid £37m for Odobert. I don't think we as Town fans quite grasp the market - or how good some of our players are. Imagine Omari at Brighton, for instance. He would fight for a place in a lot of mid-table sides. He's comfortably a £35m+ player. |
I would suggest that our league position is a better indicator of our players abilities rather than a fans view.
As for Odobert, it was EUR37M - £30M. |  | | |
| Next years squad on 11:22 - Feb 28 with 930 views | bsw72 |
| Next years squad on 10:54 - Feb 28 by Horsham |
Bearing in mind the 25 man limit and assuming all the loans go back and the ones we have out come back I think first 11/second 11 as it stands
Palmer/Walton
Axel/ Johnson
O’Shea/Woolfenden
Davis/Townsend
?/Morsy
?/Taylor
Jaden/Ogbene
Hutchison/Szmodics
Clarke/Broadhead
Delap/Hirst
23-25
? 3rd keeper
Chaplin
? Striker
Burns not registered until Jan then either becomes surplus or takes one of the attackers place.
Surplus
Muric
H Clarke
Baggot
Massimo
Humphreys
AAH
Without even considering sales or what division we’re in we need to be thinking of recruiting 2 centre mids and a striker and shifting the surplus players.
Potentially then looking at replacing
Certainty
Delap
Probable
Axel
Burgess
Possible
Omari
O’Shea
Davis
Morsy
Szmodics (as per Saudi rumour - credit Bloots)
So a min 4 in assuming Delap is a certain departure. |
I'd start Jack Taylor with Morsy - I think next year is his breakthrough season. | | | |
| Next years squad on 11:23 - Feb 28 with 928 views | gsoly |
| Next years squad on 11:18 - Feb 28 by bsw72 |
I would suggest that our league position is a better indicator of our players abilities rather than a fans view.
As for Odobert, it was EUR37M - £30M. |
OK then - we paid £20m (roughly) for Delap, Omari, Philogene, Clarke. None of whom had really ever played in the Prem. And nobody hugely quibbled at our outlay. With a season of Prem football under their belt, they are now worth more (aside from Clarke). | | | |
| Next years squad on 11:24 - Feb 28 with 922 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:18 - Feb 28 by bsw72 |
I would suggest that our league position is a better indicator of our players abilities rather than a fans view.
As for Odobert, it was EUR37M - £30M. |
£25m, plus potential add ons of £5m.
So the initial fee was 'just' £25m. | |
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| Next years squad on 11:25 - Feb 28 with 921 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:23 - Feb 28 by gsoly |
OK then - we paid £20m (roughly) for Delap, Omari, Philogene, Clarke. None of whom had really ever played in the Prem. And nobody hugely quibbled at our outlay. With a season of Prem football under their belt, they are now worth more (aside from Clarke). |
Lots of people quibbled (wrongly) about Delaps outlay. There is big profit there.
Most people thought we paid a pretty full price for Omari. And we shouldnt lose any money there.
Most people though Clarke was a full fee too. | |
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| Next years squad on 11:26 - Feb 28 with 910 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:18 - Feb 28 by DarkHorse |
KM will likely be here at the start of the season. Be surprised if he's still here once Prem Sacking Season starts though, sadly. |
If he was to go, I'd rather it was in the summer, as opposed to mid season. | |
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| Next years squad on 11:30 - Feb 28 with 887 views | Pinewoodblue |
Should we find ourselves in The Championship next season I’m sure we will set ourselves two targets.
Not just to gain promotion but to be in a better position to survive once back in Premier League. I would look to see if it would be possible to agree terms with Cajuste; loan Delap out to a Premier League side, as we will need him back.
Would also seriously consider moving on any player who would be unlikely, in two years time, to play for us in the top flight.
Would also see Slicker as, at the very least, second choice keeper. |  |
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| Next years squad on 11:32 - Feb 28 with 880 views | bsw72 |
| Next years squad on 11:23 - Feb 28 by gsoly |
OK then - we paid £20m (roughly) for Delap, Omari, Philogene, Clarke. None of whom had really ever played in the Prem. And nobody hugely quibbled at our outlay. With a season of Prem football under their belt, they are now worth more (aside from Clarke). |
Sorry, but Delap is the only one on that list where the demand for the player therefore value will have increased as he has proven his potential to compete in the Prem in a struggling side.
As for the rest, teams may come in with cheeky bids around the £10M, but I seriously doubt clubs will be willing to pay close to what we did for them, let alone more. The only one who can state they have season of Prem football under their belt is Hutchinson, Philogene and Clarke have been extras this season, coming off the bench and making little impact to date.
You don't pay the money for a single season of experience, you pay the money for the future ability/development opportunity. Both Clarke and Philogene have already been moved on by established PL clubs - people will not pay big money for them again until they are delivering more. | | | |
| Next years squad on 11:41 - Feb 28 with 848 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:32 - Feb 28 by bsw72 |
Sorry, but Delap is the only one on that list where the demand for the player therefore value will have increased as he has proven his potential to compete in the Prem in a struggling side.
As for the rest, teams may come in with cheeky bids around the £10M, but I seriously doubt clubs will be willing to pay close to what we did for them, let alone more. The only one who can state they have season of Prem football under their belt is Hutchinson, Philogene and Clarke have been extras this season, coming off the bench and making little impact to date.
You don't pay the money for a single season of experience, you pay the money for the future ability/development opportunity. Both Clarke and Philogene have already been moved on by established PL clubs - people will not pay big money for them again until they are delivering more. |
The big issue with Clarke, is that he has now failed to make an impact in the Premier League with two clubs, so I doubt many clubs will pay a big fee for him as its a bit of a punt.
JP didn't last long at Villa either. | |
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| Next years squad on 11:43 - Feb 28 with 834 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:30 - Feb 28 by Pinewoodblue |
Should we find ourselves in The Championship next season I’m sure we will set ourselves two targets.
Not just to gain promotion but to be in a better position to survive once back in Premier League. I would look to see if it would be possible to agree terms with Cajuste; loan Delap out to a Premier League side, as we will need him back.
Would also seriously consider moving on any player who would be unlikely, in two years time, to play for us in the top flight.
Would also see Slicker as, at the very least, second choice keeper. |
I cant see Delap agreeing to a loan.
He will want his move to a big club, on a perm basis with a big contract. | |
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| Next years squad on 11:58 - Feb 28 with 793 views | Horsham |
| Next years squad on 11:41 - Feb 28 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The big issue with Clarke, is that he has now failed to make an impact in the Premier League with two clubs, so I doubt many clubs will pay a big fee for him as its a bit of a punt.
JP didn't last long at Villa either. |
Don’t think he had much chance at Spurs and I also don’t think we’ve been exactly easy to play for this season so I’d be inclined to make some allowances. Do I think he’s on PL clubs radar - almost definitely not. Do I think he might still do a very good job for us? - 100% I think he very well might. | | | |
| Next years squad on 12:00 - Feb 28 with 789 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Next years squad on 11:58 - Feb 28 by Horsham |
Don’t think he had much chance at Spurs and I also don’t think we’ve been exactly easy to play for this season so I’d be inclined to make some allowances. Do I think he’s on PL clubs radar - almost definitely not. Do I think he might still do a very good job for us? - 100% I think he very well might. |
Looks like we are agreed.
Yeah, I think he'll be a real asset in the Championship. | |
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| Next years squad on 12:03 - Feb 28 with 782 views | mellowblue |
Unless we use S.S better, preferably in a front 2 , we might as well offload him as he does not fit the current system. I am not sure why we pursued him so hard when we have used him so sparingly. |  | | |
| I’ve heard that Szmodics…. on 12:12 - Feb 28 with 758 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| I’ve heard that Szmodics…. on 10:08 - Feb 28 by Bloots |
….is seriously thinking about a move to Saudi.
ITK. |
I like him but I’d also like a massively overinflated transfer fee |  |
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| Next years squad on 12:33 - Feb 28 with 691 views | Blaggers12 |
Davis won't go anywhere until he can prove he's a better defender. | | | |
| Next years squad on 12:39 - Feb 28 with 687 views | itfcjoe |
We've got 23 players contracted into next season
GK (4) - Muric, Palmer, Slicker and Walton
RB - (1) - H.Clarke
LB - (2) - Davis, Townsend
CB (3) - O'Shea, Greaves, Woolfie
CM (3) - Morsy, Taylor, Humphreys
RM - (3) - Johnson, Burns, Ogbene
Forwards - (6) - J.Clarke, Philogene, Hutchinson, Szmodics, Chaplin, Broadhead
Strikers - (3) - Delap, Hirst, Al-Hamadi
Out of Contract with an option
CB - Baggott
CM - Luongo
Attacker - Harness
Out of Contract - No Option
RB - Tuanzebe
CB - Burgess
So I'd imagine a shake up like this
GK - Lose 1, keep 3 - job done
RB - Try and likely fail retaining Tuanzebe, sign someone of that profile
LB - Potentially lose Davis, if so replace him
CB - Lose Burgess most likely, retain Baggott and maybe a signing
CM - Lose Luongo, sign at least 2
RM - Leave as is
Attackers - Possibly lose Omari, sell Harness,. Buy/Loan 1-2 more
ST - Sell Delap, Buy 1 more, maybe loan 1 and loan out Ali |  |
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| Next years squad on 12:40 - Feb 28 with 666 views | textbackup |
| Next years squad on 10:43 - Feb 28 by gsoly |
I'm really surprised people expect Omari to stay. Look at his pedigree, his minutes this season, and his general play. Yes, his goals and assists are low - but he's playing for a very poor side. Look at what established clubs paid for the likes of Morgan Gibbs White, Summerville etc over the past few years. He 100% goes for £40m this summer. |
Omari? £40m… Christ. | |
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