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FA Cup / Relegation 10:36 - Mar 3 with 2569 viewscressi

If you could win the FA Cup but get relegated or stay up win nothing what would you choose ?
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FA Cup / Relegation on 12:52 - Mar 3 with 618 viewssmithy69

FA Cup / Relegation on 10:42 - Mar 3 by Steve_M

It's not even close, FA Cup definitely.


Personally I would rather stay up. Gives you that base to push on again and secure premiership football for 10 years

I’m in it for the long game :) the new fans will want a cup
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FA Cup / Relegation on 12:55 - Mar 3 with 601 viewsBasingstokeBlue

FA Cup / Relegation on 12:03 - Mar 3 by gramps

If we win the cup but get relegated, will we be able to play in Europe next season?


Yes. In 2002, despite being relegated from the Premier League, we qualified for the UEFA Cup by having won the UEFA Fair Play draw.

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FA Cup / Relegation on 12:57 - Mar 3 with 598 viewstrncbluearmy

FA Cup / Relegation on 12:52 - Mar 3 by smithy69

Personally I would rather stay up. Gives you that base to push on again and secure premiership football for 10 years

I’m in it for the long game :) the new fans will want a cup


Think it's the other way around new fans love the glam and bragging rights of the prem.
Older fans who have seen it all before want to qualify for Europe one more time and enjoy the pixx up whilst we still can!
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FA Cup / Relegation on 12:58 - Mar 3 with 591 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

FA Cup / Relegation on 12:48 - Mar 3 by m14_blue

I replied to your post so the whole thing is there for everyone to see?

I quoted the bit that confused me, the point of winning the cup is that winning things is literally the whole point of competitive sport?
[Post edited 3 Mar 12:49]


BTW it wasn't my post.

So avoiding relegation isn't an objective, and therefore part of the point of competitive sport. And avoiding relegation is more likely to lead to other significant successes in the future. It's the big picture that really counts - again, IMHO.
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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:02 - Mar 3 with 581 viewsdirtyboy

Win the cup.

In 20 years time, nobody cares where you finished. It's all about history.

Plus whilst not getting much by way of money for FA Cup, the European Tour may generate cash, plus attract players otherwise not likely when playing the the Championship.


All about winning something.

Plus it's great for the PR machine to boost the club profile.
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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:05 - Mar 3 with 571 viewsNedPlimpton

FA cup without a doubt.

I'm 39, the only thing I've ever seen us win is a play off trophy. So some actual silverware would be unbelievable

Staying up and become a stable lower-mid table prem club, like Palace, Everton, Wolves etc looks dull. Give me the glamour of the cup over that any day!
[Post edited 3 Mar 13:15]
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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:09 - Mar 3 with 548 viewsHighgateBlue

FA Cup / Relegation on 12:40 - Mar 3 by SuffolkPunchFC

Good demonstration of how to edit a post to completely miss context


The "what's the point..." post implies that there is no "point" to winning the Cup if one is going to get relegated. Many of us, as football fans, as opposed to fans of the football business, would consider that there is a "point" to winning the cup, in and of itself, and hence /regardless/ of whether other bad things happen.

Those bad things may or may not be serious enough to outweigh the glory of the Cup win, and that will be a matter of personal preference. But that's very different from the question of whether there is a "point" to winning the Cup in a given factual scenario.

Nobody has missed the context. Everyone understands the premise of the OP.

To answer the original question, I would rather win the FA Cup. Football teams enter competitions to try to win them. This Club in particular won the FA Cup during a glorious decade-long period of great success which is remembered fondly by all who remember it. The FA Cup has been devalued only because decision-makers in clubs think that money is more important than trophies. Managers' jobs are reliant on short term success, which means prioritising competitions which have the biggest financial impact. The clubs with serious chances of winning the FA Cup are generally in the Premier League and most often in European competitions too. The FA Cup is of course not taken as seriously as it was up until roughly the turn of the millennium. That is a sad thing in my view. No intergalactic super cup will have the important of the FA Cup for me. If we /don't/ care about the top knockout competition in world football, then I do struggle to understand what fans do actually care about, and why they are interested in supporting football at all. We have a mighty slim chance of winning the thing, but it is now our only chance of silverware this season. It would be a glorious thing for us to be promoted 2 years in a row and win the FA Cup in the third year of Kieran's reign. Given that we are odds on to go down already, I would be more than happy to take the glory of silverware over the glory of finishing 17th in the league.
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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:18 - Mar 3 with 508 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

FA Cup / Relegation on 12:57 - Mar 3 by trncbluearmy

Think it's the other way around new fans love the glam and bragging rights of the prem.
Older fans who have seen it all before want to qualify for Europe one more time and enjoy the pixx up whilst we still can!


I doubt it's that clear cut

I was there in 1978 and 1981, and have enjoyed many of our highs. I remember going toe-to-toe with the very best every week, and often coming out on top. That is where I want to return to.

Yes, playing in Europe is part of that, and I'd welcome it's return, but I don't want a one-off season appearance in Europe if it jeopardises establishing ourselves at the top of the game again. If we do become re-established, we'll have many more opportunities to qualify for Europe, and with a squad likely to compete.

Of course, it's a little academic, and looking likely we will be relegated - in which case winning the FA Cup would be some recompense. But that wasn't the original question.
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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:21 - Mar 3 with 497 viewsSaffronWaldenBlues

I would rather win the FA Cup and League Cups season after season and stay firmly in the Championship for years than experience the "most exciting league in the world" ever again!

Jokes aside, it's a no-brainer, but as we're the lowest placed side still in the Cup, we'll be out by tonight and can focus on our forthcoming relegation instead.

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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:24 - Mar 3 with 496 viewsSaffronWaldenBlues

FA Cup / Relegation on 11:39 - Mar 3 by TractorWood

Stay up. It's what the club needs to push on long term.

We've already won the FA cup.

I also draw you to Leicester who people forget or broadly ignore won in 2021.
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I'd rather we won something this century, it is been over 40 years since we won anything of note. We won't ever win the Premier League, so if we did win a Cup I'd be more happy with that then losing to City, Arsenal, Liverpool, and Manure week in and out. No entertainment value in it at all.

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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:30 - Mar 3 with 482 viewsitfc_statman

Anyone who would rather stay up is a fan of ITFC as a business. Not ITFC as a football club.

Trophy's, memories and history. That's what football is all about. Not bl**dy parachute payments and fighting to finish 17th below Brentford
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FA Cup / Relegation on 13:30 - Mar 3 with 480 viewsNedPlimpton

FA Cup / Relegation on 13:21 - Mar 3 by SaffronWaldenBlues

I would rather win the FA Cup and League Cups season after season and stay firmly in the Championship for years than experience the "most exciting league in the world" ever again!

Jokes aside, it's a no-brainer, but as we're the lowest placed side still in the Cup, we'll be out by tonight and can focus on our forthcoming relegation instead.


I know we're having a rubbish season, but we were definitely still ahead of Preston last time I checked
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FA Cup / Relegation on 14:30 - Mar 3 with 422 viewsFrimleyBlue

Win the cup if this was the only Time we could do it.


Going down doesn't mean we will get back up
Staying up doesn't mean we won't go down next season

So if we were to be able to win the cup.. then it has to be the cup.

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FA Cup / Relegation on 14:32 - Mar 3 with 417 viewsjayessess

It's win the cup, none of the stars on the back of our shirt are for staying in the top division, are they?

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FA Cup / Relegation on 14:33 - Mar 3 with 414 viewsbaxterbasics

Winning the cup means qualifying for Europe which might help us hang onto some players that would be in demand from mid-table PL teams in the summer. We're in 100 goals/100 points territory. I'll take it.

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FA Cup / Relegation on 14:43 - Mar 3 with 396 viewsMattinLondon

FA Cup / Relegation on 13:30 - Mar 3 by itfc_statman

Anyone who would rather stay up is a fan of ITFC as a business. Not ITFC as a football club.

Trophy's, memories and history. That's what football is all about. Not bl**dy parachute payments and fighting to finish 17th below Brentford


Romantic bull s**t.
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FA Cup / Relegation on 22:25 - Mar 3 with 297 viewsRalphinho

Looks like we are staying up then gents. Cheers to another season in the top flight!

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