Are all eyes now on Man City? 12:49 - Mar 10 with 5063 views | Sparky85 | Lots of news articles popping up over the past few weeks that we are likely to hear the initial findings either in March or around Easter. So am starting to think of the most likely scenario's. With an appeals process which is believed could take 'months' I wonder whether there is enough time for any punishments to be given this season. Now, I know everyone's general thought is that there is no way the PL will affect that much punishment that it relegates them, but I have to disagree with this due to the precedent that it sets for everyone else. If it is only a fine or embargo, what stops Newcastle (as the richest club) then just spending ridiculous amounts in 1 or 2 windows to win some silverware, knowing a punishment is likely 3 years away minimum. All articles I have seen have said somewhere between 60-100 points. Even 60 likely relegates them as even winning every remaining game would get them to 19 points. Either us or Leicester will finish on a minimum of 18 So, selfishly thinking about us, the hope is that any punishment and then appeals are finalised by the end of this season, and then of course we finish above Leicester at the very least. I know it is a lot of if's but's and maybe's, but I am clinging onto every remaining hope that we still have a good chance of staying up. |  | | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:19 - Mar 11 with 908 views | Swansea_Blue |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:16 - Mar 11 by Trequartista | I'm starting to have more interest in this than Wolves' results to be fair. |
I don't see us making that gap up. Not now unfortunately, as we're not seeing any improvement on being able to deal with those two or three key moments each game that are defining our results. We can probably match their results, not that that's any use. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:22 - Mar 11 with 900 views | Trequartista |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:19 - Mar 11 by Swansea_Blue | I don't see us making that gap up. Not now unfortunately, as we're not seeing any improvement on being able to deal with those two or three key moments each game that are defining our results. We can probably match their results, not that that's any use. |
In most situations, 6 points with 10 games left is not the highest mountain, but in the context of this new reality of the bottom clubs being way off the pace, it does look bleak. During our last relegation, we had a spell where we won 6 games out of 7. That would just pretty much guarantee us safety in the new reality. [Post edited 11 Mar 10:24]
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:27 - Mar 11 with 879 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 08:49 - Mar 11 by textbackup | We will be lucky to finish 3rd bottom at the rate we are going. Not sure how I’d feel if we were to stay up with 18/19 points because Man City get points deducted if I’m honest. |
I'd rather not survive this way - it will just feel 'false', but if it happens I'll be grateful and see it as a sign to build stronger for next season. |  | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:40 - Mar 11 with 836 views | textbackup |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:27 - Mar 11 by SuffolkPunchFC | I'd rather not survive this way - it will just feel 'false', but if it happens I'll be grateful and see it as a sign to build stronger for next season. |
We’d forever been known as that team. Which, yeah so what, not the end of the world. But not entirely sure it would feel that great. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:04 - Mar 11 with 789 views | The_Major | The splutterings of incredulous fury on WOTB would be highly amusing though if we stayed up thanks to a massive City points deduction. |  | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:11 - Mar 11 with 777 views | cvillageblue | IF found guilty of 115 charges Man City will be relegated. It's fraud IF found guilty. Premier League has spent £50m in legal fees. They won't do that for a slap on the wrist. They also decided to to after Man City - a move that surprised many. Apparently there is little grounds for appeal - from either side. Not saying it will happen but there is a possibility. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:12 - Mar 11 with 773 views | tonybied |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:04 - Mar 11 by The_Major | The splutterings of incredulous fury on WOTB would be highly amusing though if we stayed up thanks to a massive City points deduction. |
That would probably be the best thing to come out of it (other than the extra £100 in the bank, of course!), it would be hilarious how much they would be spitting feathers!!! |  | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:19 - Mar 11 with 748 views | tonybied |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:40 - Mar 11 by textbackup | We’d forever been known as that team. Which, yeah so what, not the end of the world. But not entirely sure it would feel that great. |
Not sure that would be the case tbh, maybe it would be remembered for a few years, and remembered for longer by us and our budgie "friends" but it would fade from most other football supporters memories fairly quickly. Can you or even most Scottish football supporters tell me (without googling) who was saved from Scottish Premier League relegation when rangers went belly up? [Post edited 11 Mar 11:30]
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:36 - Mar 11 with 735 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 09:27 - Mar 11 by tonybied | Extremely fortunate but eternally grateful would cover it for me. You could feel it's undeserved...but we could do with something falling into our laps for a change, after having to make 90+ points 2 seasons in a row, just to scrape 2nd place. |
You could also argue it's deserved given that they cheated. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:44 - Mar 11 with 722 views | textbackup |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:36 - Mar 11 by The_Flashing_Smile | You could also argue it's deserved given that they cheated. |
The only EPL team that’s been cheated from the Man City situation is Liverpool |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:48 - Mar 11 with 693 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:44 - Mar 11 by textbackup | The only EPL team that’s been cheated from the Man City situation is Liverpool |
I'm pretty sure Man City have played and taken points off teams other than Liverpool, so no, you're wrong. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:50 - Mar 11 with 690 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:44 - Mar 11 by textbackup | The only EPL team that’s been cheated from the Man City situation is Liverpool |
I get your point, since it's mainly Liverpool who have directly lost out on silverware. However, so have Arsenal and ManU. And any club that has lost points to them in a season can feel cheated, and in some cases it would have had material impact on relegation. It's potentially a Pandora's box of litigation ... |  | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:54 - Mar 11 with 677 views | tonybied |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:44 - Mar 11 by textbackup | The only EPL team that’s been cheated from the Man City situation is Liverpool |
That's a rather simplistic way of looking at it. They have cheated the system for years, there have been other teams that have failed to win the league due to this, also, who's to say where they would've finished without the financial doping, they could've just bounced around as a mid-table team. How many teams have missed out on the chance of European football and financial gains because of it. You can say we would be the fortunate ones to gain from it, but essentially it would just be City getting their just desserts for cheating the system, and we could just happen to be in the right place at the right time to gain from it. Just like we were in the wrong place at the wrong time when we got relegated from the Prem last time, at the same time ITV Digital went kaput, pushing us into admin. |  | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:55 - Mar 11 with 676 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:50 - Mar 11 by SuffolkPunchFC | I get your point, since it's mainly Liverpool who have directly lost out on silverware. However, so have Arsenal and ManU. And any club that has lost points to them in a season can feel cheated, and in some cases it would have had material impact on relegation. It's potentially a Pandora's box of litigation ... |
Literally every league placing is worth millions of pounds, so every point Man City took off teams will have had some sort of impact. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:05 - Mar 11 with 650 views | Blueschev |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:44 - Mar 11 by textbackup | The only EPL team that’s been cheated from the Man City situation is Liverpool |
If they're found guilty then every team that has played them has been cheated. I would be delighted if we stayed up due to their relegation. Other than Norwich everyone else would soon forget and all focus would rightly be on the team that were relegated because they cheated. |  | |  |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:13 - Mar 11 with 615 views | textbackup |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:48 - Mar 11 by The_Flashing_Smile | I'm pretty sure Man City have played and taken points off teams other than Liverpool, so no, you're wrong. |
Sorry dad, I’ll try harder next time to make you proud. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:15 - Mar 11 with 606 views | NeedhamChris | I'm trying not to get too involved in all of the news/opinion pieces around this. What will be will be. I won't feel too guilty if we do survive this way - but we would be incredibly fortunate to survive this way. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:33 - Mar 11 with 552 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:13 - Mar 11 by textbackup | Sorry dad, I’ll try harder next time to make you proud. |
Weird comment, it's just a football messageboard, if you make posts people will agree with them or counter them if they feel they're wrong. No biggie. |  |
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:34 - Mar 11 with 544 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 10:22 - Mar 11 by Trequartista | In most situations, 6 points with 10 games left is not the highest mountain, but in the context of this new reality of the bottom clubs being way off the pace, it does look bleak. During our last relegation, we had a spell where we won 6 games out of 7. That would just pretty much guarantee us safety in the new reality. [Post edited 11 Mar 10:24]
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Are all eyes now on Man City? on 12:44 - Mar 11 with 520 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Are all eyes now on Man City? on 11:50 - Mar 11 by SuffolkPunchFC | I get your point, since it's mainly Liverpool who have directly lost out on silverware. However, so have Arsenal and ManU. And any club that has lost points to them in a season can feel cheated, and in some cases it would have had material impact on relegation. It's potentially a Pandora's box of litigation ... |
And anyone knocked out of any Cup competition by them in the same period. I'm still livid that Leicester got off Scott free, with a Panel report that almost felt like it was knudge-wink congratulating them for their legal ingenuity. It said that it's not possible to infer that just because they filed their accounts on a significantly different date than in previous years, and just because this detail, the late filing of the accounts, meant they hadn't been a member of the Premier League at the time as they had already given their share back, and just because that meant that the Premier League rules therefore no longer applied to them, there was no way that it could be inferred that they had done so deliberately in order to ensure that the rules didn't apply to them. So they hadn't cheated by taking an unusual action to avoid the rules applying to them, merely benefitted from the rules not applying to them. So, personally, I will be delighted if the Man City cheats get everything thrown at them, but not if it means Leicester stay up! That would be the biggest irony of all, and would open up the possibility of decades of legal action from Man City into BOTH rulings. |  | |  |
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