| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? 13:57 - Mar 21 with 5234 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Surely it would be standard practice for critical infrastructure, a global aviation hub. Seems very odd for the generators to be situated the same place the fire broke out!
Will be a chaotic and expensive 48 hours. |  | | |  |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 10:16 - Mar 22 with 577 views | Benters |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 15:52 - Mar 21 by Parky |
Give me oil in my lamp, keep me burning, give me oil in my lamp, I pray |
Sing Hosanna ! |  |
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| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 12:23 - Mar 22 with 512 views | stonojnr |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 14:44 - Mar 21 by itfc_bucks |
Heathrow uses as much electricity as a small town.
Backup generators wouldn't touch the sides of the demand. |
yeah generators are a bit of a red herring in this as they wouldnt be able to power the whole airport. What they should have had is a resilient supply from a dual set of feeds that were geographically independent, so that the failure in one doesnt knock out the second, thats called disaster recovery planning
and Im almost certain 30-40 years ago thats probably exactly what they had, because that was just the default setup for critical national infrastructure years back.
however it costs you more money to have that redundancy in the network, just in case you might need it
and the owners of Heathrow probably looked at their spreadsheets and thought why are we paying all this extra money to have a dual supply setup, when "its never failed" before and we dont use it, and national grid were going hey our stuff is super reliable now and we really need this capacity for elsewhere...and the rest is history. |  | | |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 12:29 - Mar 22 with 505 views | TractorWood |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 06:30 - Mar 22 by Churchman |
Heathrow Airport Holdings Limited is in turn owned by FGP Topco Limited, a consortium owned and led by Ardian (22.61%), Qatar Investment Authority (20.00%), Public Investment Fund (15.01%), GIC (11.20%), Australian Retirement Trust (11.18%), China Investment Corporation (10.00%), Ferrovial S.A. (5.25%), Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ) (2.65%), and Universities Superannuation Scheme (USS) (2.10%).
They made £917m profit last year and over £700m the previous year. Shame that all went into shareholders pockets abroad. Nothing like sweating the assets. I doubt there’s any mechanism to make them sweat for the losses they’ve incurred to people and business. You also have to ask how safe Heathrow is if they are skimping on investing to maximise those profits.
All questions to be answered. |
I hear you, big time.
We are seen as a very attractive inbound investment destination. We are just about the easiest place to invest and do business. Try setting up a company in India or Japan!
It's a double edge sword imo. We have raffled off some of the family silver but this has helped our (now) huge professional service industries like lawyers, accountants, auditors, property consultants etc. |  |
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| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 12:41 - Mar 22 with 494 views | bournemouthblue |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 12:23 - Mar 22 by stonojnr |
yeah generators are a bit of a red herring in this as they wouldnt be able to power the whole airport. What they should have had is a resilient supply from a dual set of feeds that were geographically independent, so that the failure in one doesnt knock out the second, thats called disaster recovery planning
and Im almost certain 30-40 years ago thats probably exactly what they had, because that was just the default setup for critical national infrastructure years back.
however it costs you more money to have that redundancy in the network, just in case you might need it
and the owners of Heathrow probably looked at their spreadsheets and thought why are we paying all this extra money to have a dual supply setup, when "its never failed" before and we dont use it, and national grid were going hey our stuff is super reliable now and we really need this capacity for elsewhere...and the rest is history. |
It probably is as simple as that but it does boil down to that British Culture of wanting to save the pennies on things not deemed necessary
You get it in a lot of businesses, my old boss must be a millionaire now but he was very much of that mindset, got a lot of friends in to do mates rates stuff on things and often when you pay cheap, you end up paying twice
We actually got a production manager in at one stage who was the son in law of a director and was the former Operations Manager or something fairly close to it for delivering the HMS Queen Elizabeth
The contrast in how he did things was quite amusing
He turned up at one of our manufacturers and couldn't believe what he was seeing, he soon put them right and taught them about a lot of things they probably should have already known |  |
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| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 20:42 - Mar 22 with 385 views | EdwardStone |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 15:46 - Mar 21 by Guthrum |
I doubt electric sub-stations and associated infrastructure come cheap. A lot of those hundreds of millions will be covered by insurance, whereas system redundancy must be paid for by the operator. Particularly troublesome where something has grown massively over time, like Heathrow*.
Given that nobody actually wants to pay for anything - particularly taxes - it shouldn't be a surprise we go for the (notionally) cheap option.
* See also the Houses of Parliament, which are likely to burn down (again), flood or be overrun by vermin at any time. |
By vermin.... do you mean Reform? |  | | |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 02:06 - Mar 23 with 342 views | Ryorry |
| How doesn’t LHR have back up generators? on 20:42 - Mar 22 by EdwardStone |
By vermin.... do you mean Reform? |
Doubt it - vermin are intelligent. |  |
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