| Bad foul- but if thats a red 14:34 - Apr 20 with 6425 views | redrickstuhaart |
we should have been playing ten men on at least a dozen occasions this season. |  | | |  |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 21:56 - Apr 20 with 703 views | StNeotsBlue |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 21:49 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It's difficult to tackle without taking your foot off the ground. Unless you are suggesting the contact was 1 foot off the ground which it wasn't. He caught Saka on his heel. It was from behind and late which is why I guess it was given as a red but I maintain still that had it not been given, VAR doesn't ask for a second look. I think it's one that VAR goes with the ref's call either way. I don't think there was much expectation of a red card until the referee produced it. |
I haven't heard anyone neutral say it was anything but a red which tells a story. [Post edited 20 Apr 22:02]
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 22:00 - Apr 20 with 699 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 21:56 - Apr 20 by StNeotsBlue |
I haven't heard anyone neutral say it was anything but a red which tells a story. [Post edited 20 Apr 22:02]
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That's a very fair point. |  |
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 00:07 - Apr 21 with 560 views | Suffolktractor |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 20:24 - Apr 20 by PrideOfTheEast |
Not sure that’s fair. Think it’s a red card 2 thirds of the time and all the time if it’s Leif Davis fouling Saka. Shouldn’t Davis have been booked for a foul off the ball shortly beforehand anyway? |
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 00:15 - Apr 21 with 538 views | BonchosBicycle |
If it had been against us, as some have said, I'd first of all said it was a clear yellow. And I'd have also been embarrassed that our player so obviously made a meal of it to try and get someone else sent off. Yeah, explain the professional game and the dark arts to me. I really wish we'd stamp down on play acting as much as we do as kicking the ball away for a free kick or taking off the shirt in a celebration. There's nothing classy or professional about how crap this has become. |  | | |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 04:20 - Apr 21 with 463 views | Benters |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 15:12 - Apr 20 by leitrimblue |
Looked firm but fair to me.. |
While I doubt that tackle would have broken the chocolate outer skin on a Tunnucks Teacake.
The Saka leap was a thing of beauty,Davis was clearly never near the ball,however it couldn’t have hurt that much as Saka was ripping about after the said tackle,hence the nasty boys booing him.
Having watched it many times,I don’t particularly care anymore.
Red or Yellow poke it. |  |
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 06:34 - Apr 21 with 429 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 14:51 - Apr 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Again they’re not too bright.
Remember there one at was it Wolves? Absolutely shocking decision. |
"Again they’re not too bright."
"Remember there one at was it Wolves?"
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 08:22 - Apr 21 with 340 views | Churchman |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 15:01 - Apr 20 by SuffolkPunchFC |
No luxury of replays at the game, so will reserve final judgement until I see it at home tonight. So those not at the game have an advantage.
Watching it live, it seemed a poor attempt at a tackle catching Saka’s heel/ boot. Not a stamp as some are suggesting. Definitely a booking, but on seeing it only in real-time, a red seems harsh. Will see what I think later with the benefit of replays. |
Watched it back now. I agree that it was a poor attempt at a tackle from behind the player. It wasn’t a stamp and was certainly a booking. Red? I can see why it was given, especially as the ref was in Arsenal’s pocket long before that.
However, I’m not so sure it was more than a yellow. Did he catch more than the edge of his boot? If he’d tramped on his Achilles, he wouldn’t have got up let alone wave the arm theatrically in the air, scream and roll around. Nor would he have been sprinting down the wing at full tilt two minutes later.
Trust me, if you get stamped down the back of the heel/achilles you aren’t running anywhere for a while. He made a right meal of it to get Davis red carded. Gamesmanship, ‘simulation’ (dreadful term) call it what you will. ‘Part of the modern game’ is a kind of smug Shearer line to legitimise cheating. I hate it.
Saka deserved the abuse he got yesterday in my view. And that takes nothing away from what a fantastic player he is. [Post edited 21 Apr 8:24]
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 09:44 - Apr 21 with 300 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 08:22 - Apr 21 by Churchman |
Watched it back now. I agree that it was a poor attempt at a tackle from behind the player. It wasn’t a stamp and was certainly a booking. Red? I can see why it was given, especially as the ref was in Arsenal’s pocket long before that.
However, I’m not so sure it was more than a yellow. Did he catch more than the edge of his boot? If he’d tramped on his Achilles, he wouldn’t have got up let alone wave the arm theatrically in the air, scream and roll around. Nor would he have been sprinting down the wing at full tilt two minutes later.
Trust me, if you get stamped down the back of the heel/achilles you aren’t running anywhere for a while. He made a right meal of it to get Davis red carded. Gamesmanship, ‘simulation’ (dreadful term) call it what you will. ‘Part of the modern game’ is a kind of smug Shearer line to legitimise cheating. I hate it.
Saka deserved the abuse he got yesterday in my view. And that takes nothing away from what a fantastic player he is. [Post edited 21 Apr 8:24]
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I've had a chance to watch it back now, and feel my real-time assessment at the game was accurate,
Agree entirely with your summary. Poor challenge, gave the ref a decision to make and Saka made the best of it to gain a competitive advantage. VAR was never going to overrule it though - it was the type of challenge that VAR would leave it with the on-filed decision whichever way it went.
Did it change the result? Not really, it was all over by then tbh, but the rest of the game may have been a bit more competitive had it remained 11v11 | | | |
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| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 10:00 - Apr 21 with 288 views | Radlett_blue |
| Bad foul- but if thats a red on 15:03 - Apr 20 by pointofblue |
Don't even have to consider that. Think about Tarkowski's tackle in the Merseyside derby, and that was only a yellow. |
A poor decision by the referee on that one doesn't mean that the decision to send off Davis was incorrect. Referees are human & see a challenge once, at normal speed, from one angle, unless VAR intervenes. There will always be inconsistency As much in football is down to interpretation. |  |
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