| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? 15:31 - May 16 with 7205 views | unbelievablue |
I was asked this question today and had to really think about it, but went with:
'Find a way to be comfortable saying "I don't know" when appropriate'
Looking back, I spent years avoiding saying it. I received said advice when a mentor noticed me flounder a couple of times and it was clear that an honest "I don't know, actually, but I can ask x/try and find out" would've been the right response for everyone's sake. Very grateful to them.
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 15:57 - May 17 with 1027 views | Keno |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 14:58 - May 17 by bluelagos |
Good job you never worked in a match factory  |
He did until they all went on strike |  |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:04 - May 17 with 1015 views | MJallday |
If you feel the need to fart in the office, try to hold it in. |  |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:21 - May 17 with 997 views | Churchman |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 14:15 - May 17 by bluelagos |
I think the point is - that when you are recruiting you should be doing all you can to assess their ability to do the job. If you have two candidates that are exactly the same - I'd argue you haven't assessed very well.
When recruiting for a multinational - level one above Graduate level - I found I just couldn't tell from an interview whether someone was genuinely the best thing ever, or just a bullsh1tter. So I introduced an assessment - 3 hour case study - here are some background facts - here's a lap top - you get 15 mins to ask me any question you want....then go and do an appraisal on what products we should launch and present it back.
One blokes said it was the toughest interview he'd ever had - he was a gay Nigerian - I pointed out if I'd left it to appearances and the interview - he'd have not got the job (other assessors being quite prejudice) - he got it cos he was the best person for the job, as he showed.
So I don't buy for one second your scenario - cos all things are never equal - or if they are - the recruiter isn't very good at recruiting imho.
(That said I do accept that appearance matters - I just chose not to ever judge someone on it - and to do all I could not to work in environments where it mattered a lot) |
It was theoretical and simplistic not least because my posts are getting too long (boring), but for me the point I made remains valid as far as I’m concerned..
As for assessing very well, I don’t think I made too many mistakes in whatever capacity I was recruiting or whatever process I was constrained by. Prejudice doesn’t come into it for me. It never did because I am not. I don’t have to justify myself to anyone on that score. What does come into it are the points I’ve already made re things like presentation, time keeping, appearance.
I believe there are other factors beyond to use your words ‘an ability to do the job’. For example, are they team players? Will they fit in? Do they have that inner drive and self motivation? What kind of people are they? Can the actually deliver? |  | | |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:34 - May 17 with 981 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:21 - May 17 by Churchman |
It was theoretical and simplistic not least because my posts are getting too long (boring), but for me the point I made remains valid as far as I’m concerned..
As for assessing very well, I don’t think I made too many mistakes in whatever capacity I was recruiting or whatever process I was constrained by. Prejudice doesn’t come into it for me. It never did because I am not. I don’t have to justify myself to anyone on that score. What does come into it are the points I’ve already made re things like presentation, time keeping, appearance.
I believe there are other factors beyond to use your words ‘an ability to do the job’. For example, are they team players? Will they fit in? Do they have that inner drive and self motivation? What kind of people are they? Can the actually deliver? |
Can I add to paragraph 3
Are they a blooming big girls blouse who's gonna take a day off with a sniffle? |  |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:44 - May 17 with 955 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:35 - May 16 by Lord_Lucan |
The best bit of advice I would give is don't be late - but if you are going to be late then phone ahead and advise.
For me, if someone is an hour late then there is probably an excuse, if however someone is five mins late then there is no excuse.
We had a hippy who regularly turned up between one and three minutes late to work, we got rid of him when the NI increase came in. His replacement normally arrives at least 15 mins early.
Lateness is a proper bug bear of mine. RKD is never late, my daughter is usually late and my wife has zero concept of time. [Post edited 16 May 16:37]
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Seen prospective customers not reschedule a meeting if people are late. Saying the call before ran over is no excuse either, all you’re showing them is you don’t think they’re important enough to not schedule back to backs.
On the flip side (and this may seem a small thing) candidates that try to impress with their punctuality by turning up 25 minutes early to an interview is also really annoying. It’s happened loads of times to me. Surely as a candidate you should assume the people conducting said interview have very busy schedules and that’s why you have a set time. Sure, scope out the office so you know where you’re going but just in one of the dozens of coffee shops nearby until 5-10 minutes before. One guy turned up nearly 40 minutes early once because he didn’t want to risk being late getting the train after. You’re basically just in the way at that point. |  | | |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:52 - May 17 with 933 views | RIPbobby |
"Don't die for the company, because the company wont die for you." |  | | |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 18:24 - May 17 with 894 views | hoppy |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 14:58 - May 17 by bluelagos |
Good job you never worked in a match factory |
Or as a Gynecologist |  |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 19:45 - May 17 with 860 views | Glevum |
The higher up the greasy pole you climb, the more people can see your arse. |  | | |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 08:57 - May 22 with 564 views | unbelievablue |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 16:44 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Seen prospective customers not reschedule a meeting if people are late. Saying the call before ran over is no excuse either, all you’re showing them is you don’t think they’re important enough to not schedule back to backs.
On the flip side (and this may seem a small thing) candidates that try to impress with their punctuality by turning up 25 minutes early to an interview is also really annoying. It’s happened loads of times to me. Surely as a candidate you should assume the people conducting said interview have very busy schedules and that’s why you have a set time. Sure, scope out the office so you know where you’re going but just in one of the dozens of coffee shops nearby until 5-10 minutes before. One guy turned up nearly 40 minutes early once because he didn’t want to risk being late getting the train after. You’re basically just in the way at that point. |
This happened to me yesterday. Was a virtual interview and I got a Teams notification that they had entered the virtual waiting room 22 minutes before it was due to start. Mad | |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 09:44 - May 22 with 527 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 08:57 - May 22 by unbelievablue |
This happened to me yesterday. Was a virtual interview and I got a Teams notification that they had entered the virtual waiting room 22 minutes before it was due to start. Mad |
I must admit I can be 5 mins early for those things because I worry that I haven't got everything set up properly and I'm on mute or my head is upside down or something. | |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 09:52 - May 22 with 512 views | Churchman |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 09:44 - May 22 by Lord_Lucan |
I must admit I can be 5 mins early for those things because I worry that I haven't got everything set up properly and I'm on mute or my head is upside down or something. |
Five mins in the ‘waiting room’ is fine though for me whether teleconferencing, VC, Skype, zoom, whatever, one or two mins was the norm.
If I was chairing something like that, I’d always set it up long before the meeting and get a colleague to test the link worked to knock on the head any excuses up front! As chair, I’d look to open it up five mins before the time so that I could have a little catch up with any early participants. Just my way.
I hate lateness. | | | |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 09:55 - May 22 with 505 views | unbelievablue |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 09:44 - May 22 by Lord_Lucan |
I must admit I can be 5 mins early for those things because I worry that I haven't got everything set up properly and I'm on mute or my head is upside down or something. |
5 is fine. 22 is annoying. They also then kept leaving and entering and I'd keep getting the notification.
To be fair they were really good in the end. | |
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 10:07 - May 22 with 497 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 17:19 - May 16 by Keno |
Treat everyone the same and treat everyone how you would them to treat you |
Not to be a pedant but I would say treat everyone fairly rather than treating everyone equally.
Mine, at the risk of sounding a bit business school, would be to control the controllables. You can't influence the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sail. I've worked in businesses who waste far too much time and energy on things way outside of their control. Cut your cloth accordingly and make sure you're set up for success within the circumstances you find yourself in. Also true in ones personal lives I find.
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| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 10:21 - May 22 with 468 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 14:58 - May 17 by bluelagos |
Good job you never worked in a match factory |
He did, but it was 3 strikes and he's out. | | | |
| Best bit of work advice you were ever given? on 10:28 - May 22 with 445 views | Bluecoin |
Try not to screw the crew.
Retire as soon as you can. Plan it. Do it. |  | | |
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