| Cup final thread 15:37 - May 17 with 2547 views | bluelagos |
I'll reluctantly go for a City win by 2 goals. Would love to see Palace win, underdogs and all.
Very attacking front 6 for City - no real bite in their midfield. Wonder if Palace could crowd them out in the middle? [Post edited 17 May 15:38]
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| Cup final thread on 17:08 - May 17 with 552 views | Herbivore |
| Cup final thread on 16:59 - May 17 by bluelagos |
Nah. VAR is supposed to intervene on big things - the ball was going very wide and Harland wasn't about to knock it in - would have been very harsh to have sent him off imho |
It was going very wide because Henderson pushed it wide though. If he doesn't touch the ball, Haaland can knock it past him and have a tap in. It's debatable enough that I can see why VAR didn't get the ref to have a look. Thought the defender got a toe on the ball for the pen as well. |  |
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| Cup final thread on 17:09 - May 17 with 555 views | PhilTWTD |
| Cup final thread on 17:07 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Yes it was he was no where near the ball slid in and there was contact, inviting trouble. |
It's interesting. I was pretty much convinced it was a penalty and then the final angle they showed, as they said the decision had been upheld, seemed to indicate a touch from the defender, the ball appearing to deviate slightly. Need to introduce snicko into football. |  | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:10 - May 17 with 517 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cup final thread on 17:09 - May 17 by PhilTWTD |
It's interesting. I was pretty much convinced it was a penalty and then the final angle they showed, as they said the decision had been upheld, seemed to indicate a touch from the defender, the ball appearing to deviate slightly. Need to introduce snicko into football. |
Don’t give them any more ideas lol.
I only saw one angle and thought it was 100% |  | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:11 - May 17 with 519 views | bluelagos |
| Cup final thread on 17:09 - May 17 by PhilTWTD |
It's interesting. I was pretty much convinced it was a penalty and then the final angle they showed, as they said the decision had been upheld, seemed to indicate a touch from the defender, the ball appearing to deviate slightly. Need to introduce snicko into football. |
He defo got the smallest of touches - and that was before he hit the player - so cant see how that was a pen.
Anyhow - they missed so all good. | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:11 - May 17 with 509 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Cup final thread on 17:09 - May 17 by PhilTWTD |
It's interesting. I was pretty much convinced it was a penalty and then the final angle they showed, as they said the decision had been upheld, seemed to indicate a touch from the defender, the ball appearing to deviate slightly. Need to introduce snicko into football. |
Silva played for it, dived and won it. VAR showed there was touch but as it's Man City decided to ignore it. The "there was contact" crowd are killing this contact sport. |  | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:12 - May 17 with 495 views | Swansea_Blue |
The defender definitely got a toe on the ball for the pen. From the behind view you could see the ball change direction. Who have they got in the VAR room? A couple of chimpanzees on crack?
Cracking save mind.
It’s a fascinating game. Palace are brutal on the break. That’s what you need if you’re not going to see a lot of the ball. It’s where we fell down this season with far too many chances missed and normally early on in games. |  |
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| Cup final thread on 17:12 - May 17 with 497 views | bluelagos |
| Cup final thread on 17:10 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Don’t give them any more ideas lol.
I only saw one angle and thought it was 100% |
Presume you are on different feed in USA? BBC showed a few angles and one was near conclusive he knicked it. Smallest of touchest and little deviation of the ball though. | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:13 - May 17 with 475 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cup final thread on 17:11 - May 17 by FromReuserWithLove |
Silva played for it, dived and won it. VAR showed there was touch but as it's Man City decided to ignore it. The "there was contact" crowd are killing this contact sport. |
Players have been doing that forever at this point, sliding in like that invites trouble. That seem way more a penalty than say Delap’s against Chelsea but I’m sure the blue tinted will tell me otherwise. | | | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:14 - May 17 with 465 views | Churchman |
| Cup final thread on 17:08 - May 17 by Herbivore |
It was going very wide because Henderson pushed it wide though. If he doesn't touch the ball, Haaland can knock it past him and have a tap in. It's debatable enough that I can see why VAR didn't get the ref to have a look. Thought the defender got a toe on the ball for the pen as well. |
I thought the defender touched it and the attacker threw himself over the bloke’s leg. No penalty for me. Justice was done. |  | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:14 - May 17 with 467 views | TractorWood |
| Cup final thread on 17:10 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Don’t give them any more ideas lol.
I only saw one angle and thought it was 100% |
McCoist said penalty all day from the first angle.
He sees the second angle and is furious it's been given. |  |
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| Cup final thread on 17:14 - May 17 with 459 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Cup final thread on 17:09 - May 17 by PhilTWTD |
It's interesting. I was pretty much convinced it was a penalty and then the final angle they showed, as they said the decision had been upheld, seemed to indicate a touch from the defender, the ball appearing to deviate slightly. Need to introduce snicko into football. |
More importantly, Bernardo Silva was already half-airborne, going to the ground, with his heels above his knees, at the point of any contact. It’s not even a ‘clever’ dragging of the heel to invite contact, just a blatant dive |  |
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| Cup final thread on 17:15 - May 17 with 462 views | Herbivore |
| Cup final thread on 17:13 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Players have been doing that forever at this point, sliding in like that invites trouble. That seem way more a penalty than say Delap’s against Chelsea but I’m sure the blue tinted will tell me otherwise. |
The main difference being the defending player got a touch on the ball when making a challenge in this game. | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:16 - May 17 with 434 views | TractorWood |
Man City players literally cannot get a yellow card. | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:17 - May 17 with 411 views | DanTheMan |
| Cup final thread on 17:16 - May 17 by TractorWood |
Man City players literally cannot get a yellow card. |
Players not getting yellows for stopping obvious counter attacks has been winding me up all season. |  |
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| Cup final thread on 17:18 - May 17 with 406 views | bluelagos |
| Cup final thread on 17:16 - May 17 by TractorWood |
Man City players literally cannot get a yellow card. |
KDBs challenge was a stonewall yellow wasn't it! | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:18 - May 17 with 400 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Cup final thread on 17:13 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Players have been doing that forever at this point, sliding in like that invites trouble. That seem way more a penalty than say Delap’s against Chelsea but I’m sure the blue tinted will tell me otherwise. |
Both not penalties if the officials had balls. | | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:19 - May 17 with 390 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cup final thread on 17:15 - May 17 by Herbivore |
The main difference being the defending player got a touch on the ball when making a challenge in this game. |
And you’d certainly be the prime candidate when it comes to anything Ipswich decisions wise or politics ;)
I’ll have to see the second angle for this one as some stating that’s the case. However, there was a lot more contact on the player. Delap flicked his foot into the keeper at best in that decision. Clever but I can only imagine the board if it was the other way around! | | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:20 - May 17 with 362 views | TractorWood |
| Cup final thread on 17:17 - May 17 by DanTheMan |
Players not getting yellows for stopping obvious counter attacks has been winding me up all season. |
Refs seem to sometimes never give any in the 1st half and then give 20 in the 2nd half for every foul. | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:20 - May 17 with 359 views | Herbivore |
| Cup final thread on 17:19 - May 17 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
And you’d certainly be the prime candidate when it comes to anything Ipswich decisions wise or politics ;)
I’ll have to see the second angle for this one as some stating that’s the case. However, there was a lot more contact on the player. Delap flicked his foot into the keeper at best in that decision. Clever but I can only imagine the board if it was the other way around! |
It was very soft and he played for it for sure, not sure there was much difference in the level of contact with today's one though. He's throwing himself over before there's any contact. If you see the other angle, looks clear the defender gets the ball too. | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:23 - May 17 with 342 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cup final thread on 17:20 - May 17 by Herbivore |
It was very soft and he played for it for sure, not sure there was much difference in the level of contact with today's one though. He's throwing himself over before there's any contact. If you see the other angle, looks clear the defender gets the ball too. |
Hopefully they’ll show it at half time but who knows, ESPN’s coverage is rubbish. Lucky EFL rights have gone elsewhere next year. | | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:29 - May 17 with 306 views | bluelagos |
So both BBC and ITV pundits think Hendo lucky not so see red. Also both think the pen was wrong.
VAR managed to get both wrong then... | |
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| Cup final thread on 17:31 - May 17 with 281 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cup final thread on 17:29 - May 17 by bluelagos |
So both BBC and ITV pundits think Hendo lucky not so see red. Also both think the pen was wrong.
VAR managed to get both wrong then... |
Seen second angle does look like a very slight toe on the ball (maybe after contract) probably a 50/50 call for VAR that to overturn as clear and obvious.
Henderson is lucky in my book, no doubt but that would have ruined the final so I’m selfishly pleased. | | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:32 - May 17 with 270 views | Churchman |
| Cup final thread on 17:20 - May 17 by TractorWood |
Refs seem to sometimes never give any in the 1st half and then give 20 in the 2nd half for every foul. |
They do. And this ref is a twerp so given Palace got away with the keeper not being sent off with batting the ball away, it wouldn’t surprise me if the ref didn’t try and make up for it. | | | |
| Cup final thread on 17:35 - May 17 with 249 views | Zx1988 |
| Cup final thread on 17:29 - May 17 by bluelagos |
So both BBC and ITV pundits think Hendo lucky not so see red. Also both think the pen was wrong.
VAR managed to get both wrong then... |
Seem to be confused between the meanings of 'obvious' and 'possible'.
Cretins. |  |
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| Cup final thread on 17:40 - May 17 with 216 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cup final thread on 17:32 - May 17 by Churchman |
They do. And this ref is a twerp so given Palace got away with the keeper not being sent off with batting the ball away, it wouldn’t surprise me if the ref didn’t try and make up for it. |
The Henderson incident is not a good for the conspiracy theorists who say only the top clubs get the calls. | | | |
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