| Norwich and Manning 11:32 - Jun 1 with 3530 views | catch74 |
Got a little bit about the MM to Hurst appointment. There were a few problems with Hursts appointment, one seemed to be the time it took, think waiting for play offs to be done? Another problem was the fact it was Paul Hurst.
Surely affects the pre-season and possibly player dealings. For the record Manning is clearly no Paul Hurst and a decent appointment for a mid table Championship side. |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 11:33 - Jun 1 with 3191 views | ITFCBlues |
It's only 1st of June! |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 11:38 - Jun 1 with 3135 views | mutters |
Manning was mentioned by a few as a potential replacement should McKenna move on. He's a solid choice and am a bit surprised that he's moved on from Brizzle City after this season. Obviously his East Anglican heritage has something to do with it.
Hopefully he's going in as an undercover agent for us and will get them relegated. A bit like Liam Gibbs who is doing a great job in sending the Budgies back to mediocrity |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 11:39 - Jun 1 with 3125 views | catch74 |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:33 - Jun 1 by ITFCBlues |
It's only 1st of June! |
Think Hurst was appointed end of May and MM departure announced 10th April - I seem to remember it feeling like it was really dragging. Thorup sacked 22nd April, they’ve had a while. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 11:46 - Jun 1 with 3061 views | _clive_baker_ |
I think Manning has proven himself competent at Championship level, Hurst never has.
It’s a decent appointment from Norwich’s perspective. I think the biggest challenge they’ve got is the playing squad, they’ll likely lose Sargent and Sainz and beyond those 2 they’re quite average. The young midfielder they had on loan from Man City whose name escapes me looks a tidy player though and they’ve just made that permanent. Certainly feels the way forward to invest in young players with potentially higher ceilings, under a young manager like Manning. Their recent strategy of offering stupid wages to past it lumps like Duffy, Hanley, Barnes etc was never going to prove fruitful.
Feels like a complete reset for them, that aspect isn’t dissimilar to Hurst. It’ll depend a lot of whether they can get their recruitment right, it’s a big summer for them. . |  | | |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:51 - Jun 1 with 3023 views | SE1blue |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:46 - Jun 1 by _clive_baker_ |
I think Manning has proven himself competent at Championship level, Hurst never has.
It’s a decent appointment from Norwich’s perspective. I think the biggest challenge they’ve got is the playing squad, they’ll likely lose Sargent and Sainz and beyond those 2 they’re quite average. The young midfielder they had on loan from Man City whose name escapes me looks a tidy player though and they’ve just made that permanent. Certainly feels the way forward to invest in young players with potentially higher ceilings, under a young manager like Manning. Their recent strategy of offering stupid wages to past it lumps like Duffy, Hanley, Barnes etc was never going to prove fruitful.
Feels like a complete reset for them, that aspect isn’t dissimilar to Hurst. It’ll depend a lot of whether they can get their recruitment right, it’s a big summer for them. . |
Agree. Surprisingly sensible recruitment (if it happens) by Nodge.
Wonder if Manning will bring any of the players from Bristol with him. Mehmeti and Dickie would be upgrades on what they currently have. |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 12:46 - Jun 1 with 2740 views | NthQldITFC |
He's having his Town tattoo (temporarily) covered up, and organising his get-out-of-Norfolk escape route for when he has completed his mission. Thorough. |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 13:04 - Jun 1 with 2653 views | Nutkins_Return |
I don't see too many parallels. I saw Manning as one to watch a few years back and he's done ok. Having watched Bristol city a few times this year they are one of the most underwhelming sides to watch. Very neat and tidy and well organised but against stronger teams they really struggle. Extremely one dimensional.
I quite like manning. He's calm and composed but borders on a bit boring and is he motivational. He has that "not too high and not too lose" for winning/losing management quality which is good. I just think there is a big question mark as to whether he is a top championship manager.
I don't think he improves Norwich much. Maybe a bit more consistent. He could threaten playoffs. I think they will fall short though and be there for the taking against the more Dynamic teams (see us ;) ) |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 13:19 - Jun 1 with 2585 views | ArnieM |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:38 - Jun 1 by mutters |
Manning was mentioned by a few as a potential replacement should McKenna move on. He's a solid choice and am a bit surprised that he's moved on from Brizzle City after this season. Obviously his East Anglican heritage has something to do with it.
Hopefully he's going in as an undercover agent for us and will get them relegated. A bit like Liam Gibbs who is doing a great job in sending the Budgies back to mediocrity |
But if they’re also after Klug, would that be a likely senior duo in the CC next season for them? |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 13:21 - Jun 1 with 2576 views | ArnieM |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:46 - Jun 1 by _clive_baker_ |
I think Manning has proven himself competent at Championship level, Hurst never has.
It’s a decent appointment from Norwich’s perspective. I think the biggest challenge they’ve got is the playing squad, they’ll likely lose Sargent and Sainz and beyond those 2 they’re quite average. The young midfielder they had on loan from Man City whose name escapes me looks a tidy player though and they’ve just made that permanent. Certainly feels the way forward to invest in young players with potentially higher ceilings, under a young manager like Manning. Their recent strategy of offering stupid wages to past it lumps like Duffy, Hanley, Barnes etc was never going to prove fruitful.
Feels like a complete reset for them, that aspect isn’t dissimilar to Hurst. It’ll depend a lot of whether they can get their recruitment right, it’s a big summer for them. . |
With the Manning appointment , I wouldn’t put it past them being a threat for top 6 now… you just know they will rally. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 13:23 - Jun 1 with 2558 views | ParisBlue |
| Norwich and Manning on 13:04 - Jun 1 by Nutkins_Return |
I don't see too many parallels. I saw Manning as one to watch a few years back and he's done ok. Having watched Bristol city a few times this year they are one of the most underwhelming sides to watch. Very neat and tidy and well organised but against stronger teams they really struggle. Extremely one dimensional.
I quite like manning. He's calm and composed but borders on a bit boring and is he motivational. He has that "not too high and not too lose" for winning/losing management quality which is good. I just think there is a big question mark as to whether he is a top championship manager.
I don't think he improves Norwich much. Maybe a bit more consistent. He could threaten playoffs. I think they will fall short though and be there for the taking against the more Dynamic teams (see us ;) ) |
Bristol City supporters never warmed to Manning, their improved form since Xmas was more appreciative, he was seen as one-dimensional, and they only just squeaked into the play-offsl. Had he stayed every chance he wouldn't have lasted to the end of the coming season. Mind you, Bristol City are a funny club, an odd supporter base, so he may be a good fit for his new crowd.
Watch his interviews and it's all a bit dull, trust the process etc. He may be a good coach, but these days you need a bit more personality (we're so lucky to have KM).
I wouldn't be surprised to hear grumbles from north of the border come xmas and I'm all for it, especially if he can lure Scott Twine, Max O'Leary, Mehmet, all average championship players, so much the better.
Chris Hogg seems a decent chap though, very quiet, but it was during Manning's sad leave of absence when Hogg took control that their form turned around. |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 13:24 - Jun 1 with 2552 views | catch74 |
| Norwich and Manning on 13:04 - Jun 1 by Nutkins_Return |
I don't see too many parallels. I saw Manning as one to watch a few years back and he's done ok. Having watched Bristol city a few times this year they are one of the most underwhelming sides to watch. Very neat and tidy and well organised but against stronger teams they really struggle. Extremely one dimensional.
I quite like manning. He's calm and composed but borders on a bit boring and is he motivational. He has that "not too high and not too lose" for winning/losing management quality which is good. I just think there is a big question mark as to whether he is a top championship manager.
I don't think he improves Norwich much. Maybe a bit more consistent. He could threaten playoffs. I think they will fall short though and be there for the taking against the more Dynamic teams (see us ;) ) |
I was referring more to the timing/ dragging of announcement than manageria/ coaching ability. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 15:16 - Jun 1 with 2227 views | BloomBlue |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:51 - Jun 1 by SE1blue |
Agree. Surprisingly sensible recruitment (if it happens) by Nodge.
Wonder if Manning will bring any of the players from Bristol with him. Mehmeti and Dickie would be upgrades on what they currently have. |
Assume Scott Twine will follow, as Twine always talks positive about the impact Manning has had on his career |  | | |
| Norwich and Manning on 16:15 - Jun 1 with 2108 views | ParisBlue |
| Norwich and Manning on 15:16 - Jun 1 by BloomBlue |
Assume Scott Twine will follow, as Twine always talks positive about the impact Manning has had on his career |
Most Bristol City supporters would offer to drive Scott Twine to Norwich, very injury prone and falls over a lot.
Mehmeti was at Norwich as a youth player, so that's more likely, but another who flatters to deceive. Also Max O'Leary given they need a keeper, but again he's nothing exceptional.
Jason Knight, Max Bird, Cam Pring, perhaps Rob Dickie and Mark Sykes are the best of a typically average Championship side. Ashton ruined them remember... | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 16:16 - Jun 1 with 2093 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich and Manning on 13:19 - Jun 1 by ArnieM |
But if they’re also after Klug, would that be a likely senior duo in the CC next season for them? |
Is that realistically going to happen? Is it to do with allegiance between Klug and Manning or something else? Why would Klug want to move there from Town otherwise? Are you suggesting Klug would be Manning's number 2? I am fairly sure he stated he didn't want a managerial role because he felt the academy one suited him much better. Wouldn't Hogg be going with Manning as his number 2 or has father-in-law George told him that's out of order? |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 16:21 - Jun 1 with 2070 views | ParisBlue |
| Norwich and Manning on 16:16 - Jun 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is that realistically going to happen? Is it to do with allegiance between Klug and Manning or something else? Why would Klug want to move there from Town otherwise? Are you suggesting Klug would be Manning's number 2? I am fairly sure he stated he didn't want a managerial role because he felt the academy one suited him much better. Wouldn't Hogg be going with Manning as his number 2 or has father-in-law George told him that's out of order? |
Klug to Norwich is separate from Manning amd their first team managerial setup.
From an academy perspective Norwich are way ahead of us having been Cat 1 for years and there's a theory that since our new ownership Klug's role has been marginalised somewhat. There was a thread earlier this week suggesting the rationale behind it, and sounds like it's more than likely
Edit: here's the previous thread
Academy issues? by portmanking 27 May 12:54Tweet by the ITKer/sh*t stirrer on X 'misssuffolkblue':
"Suffolk lad and ex ITFC coach. Interesting appointment, but bigger news on the horizon when one of our greatest coaches is set to join them as well to work in their academy after numerous fall outs with Ashton over the lack of funding into our academy".
Lack of funding into academy? How does that compute with a Category 1 bid? And who is the 'greatest coach'?!
EDIT: Initial sentence is talking about Manning to the scum.
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| Norwich and Manning on 16:29 - Jun 1 with 2028 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich and Manning on 16:21 - Jun 1 by ParisBlue |
Klug to Norwich is separate from Manning amd their first team managerial setup.
From an academy perspective Norwich are way ahead of us having been Cat 1 for years and there's a theory that since our new ownership Klug's role has been marginalised somewhat. There was a thread earlier this week suggesting the rationale behind it, and sounds like it's more than likely
Edit: here's the previous thread
Academy issues? by portmanking 27 May 12:54Tweet by the ITKer/sh*t stirrer on X 'misssuffolkblue':
"Suffolk lad and ex ITFC coach. Interesting appointment, but bigger news on the horizon when one of our greatest coaches is set to join them as well to work in their academy after numerous fall outs with Ashton over the lack of funding into our academy".
Lack of funding into academy? How does that compute with a Category 1 bid? And who is the 'greatest coach'?!
EDIT: Initial sentence is talking about Manning to the scum.
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That's a real shame. I did wonder whether frustration over lack of Category 1 could have played into it. Thanks for summarising the discussion that I missed. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 16:30 - Jun 1 with 2022 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Norwich and Manning on 16:15 - Jun 1 by ParisBlue |
Most Bristol City supporters would offer to drive Scott Twine to Norwich, very injury prone and falls over a lot.
Mehmeti was at Norwich as a youth player, so that's more likely, but another who flatters to deceive. Also Max O'Leary given they need a keeper, but again he's nothing exceptional.
Jason Knight, Max Bird, Cam Pring, perhaps Rob Dickie and Mark Sykes are the best of a typically average Championship side. Ashton ruined them remember... |
As per your final line, don't forget they would have driven Ashton to PR too. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 17:04 - Jun 1 with 1904 views | ParisBlue |
| Norwich and Manning on 16:30 - Jun 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
As per your final line, don't forget they would have driven Ashton to PR too. |
Indeed, though some of that view has changed. Most likely the structure of the club with Lansdowne and Tinnion is the main reason Manning is happy to move on. Big frustrations there, the club makes decent profit but the overriding structure, combined with funding Bristol Sport, is a big problem to them. Recruitment last summer was a mess, and they weakened in January (Atkinson to pompey with no replacement was an odd one, together with loaning out Maloyou to austria, 6 months after signing him for a few million). The Lansdownes need to move on, but any dale is really complicated by association with Bristol Sport
The difference with Ashton at itfc is he's reporting to shrewd Americans who will keep him in check. I don't think promotion from L1 was that much of an achievement, but the success and riches of the last 2 seasons puts him in credit. He got lucky with how good KM is, but it was his appointment, so fair enough. He delivered.
That said, he's back to a point where anything other than promotion this coming season will leave him under scrutiny. I expect us to gamble and spend big to get there. And I expect us to do so.
My boss is a Bristol City season ticket holder. Their issue was never that he wasn't competent at running a football club (he clearly is) but the bloated squad and over paying wages that resulted in them going backwards to the edgebof ffp issues. Transfer dealings were erratic, generally selling players for good prices, but recruitment erratic - Adam Webster being one of the exceptions (Webster and Kodja apart, their big sales were home grown players - Brownhill, De-cordova Reid, Joe Bryam, Lloyd Kelly).Then there are the David Brentism's - fine when you're winning, but when things aren't going well then a very different feeling.
My view was that after 13 years of nobody running the club, just having someone to run it was a bonus. And whatever happens the next 12-24 months wont be dull, I'll always have 23/24 and a premier league season I never thought I'd see again. I probably wouldn't want to work for him though (albeit i dont see any evidence of any friction with his managerial hires, including KM), and probably wouldn't want him as a friend.
It beats 20 years of finishing 15th in the Championship with the odd failed flirt with the play-offs or relegation (Bristol City have taken over our mantle) | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 17:17 - Jun 1 with 1857 views | Rocky |
| Norwich and Manning on 11:46 - Jun 1 by _clive_baker_ |
I think Manning has proven himself competent at Championship level, Hurst never has.
It’s a decent appointment from Norwich’s perspective. I think the biggest challenge they’ve got is the playing squad, they’ll likely lose Sargent and Sainz and beyond those 2 they’re quite average. The young midfielder they had on loan from Man City whose name escapes me looks a tidy player though and they’ve just made that permanent. Certainly feels the way forward to invest in young players with potentially higher ceilings, under a young manager like Manning. Their recent strategy of offering stupid wages to past it lumps like Duffy, Hanley, Barnes etc was never going to prove fruitful.
Feels like a complete reset for them, that aspect isn’t dissimilar to Hurst. It’ll depend a lot of whether they can get their recruitment right, it’s a big summer for them. . |
Jacob Wright is the player they've signed from Man City.
Looks very good. I was annoyed they were able to get him - looks way too good for Nodge. |  | | |
| Norwich and Manning on 17:36 - Jun 1 with 1768 views | ArnieM |
| Norwich and Manning on 16:16 - Jun 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Is that realistically going to happen? Is it to do with allegiance between Klug and Manning or something else? Why would Klug want to move there from Town otherwise? Are you suggesting Klug would be Manning's number 2? I am fairly sure he stated he didn't want a managerial role because he felt the academy one suited him much better. Wouldn't Hogg be going with Manning as his number 2 or has father-in-law George told him that's out of order? |
I think i actually saw Klug was being linked with their academy. Then they've all but acquired Manning, so i just wondered if they would pair the teo. But if you say Klug prefers academy level, then he might go there to run their academy. I think it was stated in their local rag that he was being targeted for that. Would hate to see it happen tbh. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 17:53 - Jun 1 with 1713 views | ParisBlue |
| Norwich and Manning on 17:17 - Jun 1 by Rocky |
Jacob Wright is the player they've signed from Man City.
Looks very good. I was annoyed they were able to get him - looks way too good for Nodge. |
Yep, would have loved us to have hijacked that deal. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 05:07 - Jun 2 with 1234 views | itfctilidie |
Manning is an interesting one. Hasn't spent more than 2 seasons at any club he has been at yet. Almost as if he leaves before he is found out. Bristol don't seem too concerned. |  | | |
| Norwich and Manning on 09:18 - Jun 2 with 828 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Good news is Mckenna has an unbeaten record vs Manning.
2 wins 1 Draw I make it.
He is a good coach, but he is so uninspiring to listen to. Needs a good start there and some serious investment in to the playing squad. |  |
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| Norwich and Manning on 09:24 - Jun 2 with 800 views | SomethingBlue |
Norwich will be ok – Manning is highly competent and the people running the place now are serious. Play-off challenge I would have thought, and definitely not one for us to dismiss. | |
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| Norwich and Manning on 09:35 - Jun 2 with 762 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Norwich and Manning on 09:24 - Jun 2 by SomethingBlue |
Norwich will be ok – Manning is highly competent and the people running the place now are serious. Play-off challenge I would have thought, and definitely not one for us to dismiss. |
Any Ipswich fan who dismisses Norwich as being easy pickings probably hasn't been around very long.... | |
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