| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... 20:01 - Jun 20 with 7960 views | Zx1988 |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn81g4e0nlyo
The sort of thing that even the Tories would probably think twice about. How the hell is throwing some paint at a stationary plane an act of terrorism?!
Kill thousands of civilians in a genocide, however... [Post edited 20 Jun 20:02]
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 16:19 - Jun 23 with 711 views | positivity |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 14:21 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
With the scenes in London today doesn’t look like a peaceful group to me! |
looks relatively peaceful from those reports, mostly students and pensioners by the looks of it! | |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 16:52 - Jun 23 with 638 views | bluejacko |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 16:19 - Jun 23 by positivity |
looks relatively peaceful from those reports, mostly students and pensioners by the looks of it! |
You must have missed the bit about clashing,wrestling with police and arrests then! [Post edited 23 Jun 16:54]
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 16:57 - Jun 23 with 622 views | positivity |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 16:52 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
You must have missed the bit about clashing,wrestling with police and arrests then! [Post edited 23 Jun 16:54]
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3 arrests, one for chanting, two for obstruction, more knitting circle than edl!
hopefully those arrested will be charged if appropriate, but it's pretty tame on that evidence | |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 17:45 - Jun 23 with 543 views | DJR |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 13:53 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
That misses the point. Yes, they’re committing crimes and yes there will be consequences, but it remains that this group is non-violent. It’s just been confirmed that the group will be classed as a terrorist organisation at the end of this month.
That a non-violent protest group should be proscribed as a terrorist organisation should worry everyone. It’s a step closer to criminalising protest full stop. Even if people don’t agree with their cause or methods, maybe next time the government will clamp down on dissent on a cause you do believe in. It’s sinister as feck, imho. |
Agreed.
And there's an Interesting free-speech angle by Sally Rooney, the Irish writer in today's Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/22/israel-palestine-action-uk
"Israel kills innocent Palestinians. Activists spray-paint a plane. Guess which the UK government calls terrorism
If Palestine Action becomes a proscribed group, writing these words of support could become a serious offence. It’s vital we fight this alarming attack on free speech"
"But proscribing an entire organisation under the Terrorism Act is not the same thing as prosecuting particular individuals for specific transgressions. If the government follows through with its intention to designate Palestine Action as a terror organisation, mere membership of the group would constitute a crime. In fact, even supporting the group purely in words – as I am doing now – could also constitute a serious legal offence, punishable with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison." [Post edited 23 Jun 17:49]
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:05 - Jun 23 with 519 views | bluejacko |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 17:45 - Jun 23 by DJR |
Agreed.
And there's an Interesting free-speech angle by Sally Rooney, the Irish writer in today's Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/22/israel-palestine-action-uk
"Israel kills innocent Palestinians. Activists spray-paint a plane. Guess which the UK government calls terrorism
If Palestine Action becomes a proscribed group, writing these words of support could become a serious offence. It’s vital we fight this alarming attack on free speech"
"But proscribing an entire organisation under the Terrorism Act is not the same thing as prosecuting particular individuals for specific transgressions. If the government follows through with its intention to designate Palestine Action as a terror organisation, mere membership of the group would constitute a crime. In fact, even supporting the group purely in words – as I am doing now – could also constitute a serious legal offence, punishable with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison." [Post edited 23 Jun 17:49]
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Tatchell has been on the telly and like this Irish writer he is dense!
Obviously a bit more was done than just ‘spray a plane’ as both claim! I’m sure you have all been keeping up with the consequences of this attack?
Apparently as of now the estimated costs of repairs,new engines and the loss of operational capability will likely end up around £30 M! Not bad for a bit of spray paint and a bit of a lark is it?
Has the Irish govt actually labelled Israel as a terrorist state then if not she can wind her neck in and worry about her own country before having a go at us!
( Qatar has just been attacked,plenty of Brits there who would have been very pleased if these planes were operational) [Post edited 23 Jun 18:08]
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:20 - Jun 23 with 479 views | Herbivore |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:05 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
Tatchell has been on the telly and like this Irish writer he is dense!
Obviously a bit more was done than just ‘spray a plane’ as both claim! I’m sure you have all been keeping up with the consequences of this attack?
Apparently as of now the estimated costs of repairs,new engines and the loss of operational capability will likely end up around £30 M! Not bad for a bit of spray paint and a bit of a lark is it?
Has the Irish govt actually labelled Israel as a terrorist state then if not she can wind her neck in and worry about her own country before having a go at us!
( Qatar has just been attacked,plenty of Brits there who would have been very pleased if these planes were operational) [Post edited 23 Jun 18:08]
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You seem to be under the impression that people don't think what happened was serious. It was serious and the proper response is to prosecute those responsible, not to falsely brand a whole protest organisation as terrorist. |  |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:21 - Jun 23 with 475 views | itfcjoe |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 17:45 - Jun 23 by DJR |
Agreed.
And there's an Interesting free-speech angle by Sally Rooney, the Irish writer in today's Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/22/israel-palestine-action-uk
"Israel kills innocent Palestinians. Activists spray-paint a plane. Guess which the UK government calls terrorism
If Palestine Action becomes a proscribed group, writing these words of support could become a serious offence. It’s vital we fight this alarming attack on free speech"
"But proscribing an entire organisation under the Terrorism Act is not the same thing as prosecuting particular individuals for specific transgressions. If the government follows through with its intention to designate Palestine Action as a terror organisation, mere membership of the group would constitute a crime. In fact, even supporting the group purely in words – as I am doing now – could also constitute a serious legal offence, punishable with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison." [Post edited 23 Jun 17:49]
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Spray painting a plane does under sell it somewhat |  |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:39 - Jun 23 with 439 views | eireblue |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:05 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
Tatchell has been on the telly and like this Irish writer he is dense!
Obviously a bit more was done than just ‘spray a plane’ as both claim! I’m sure you have all been keeping up with the consequences of this attack?
Apparently as of now the estimated costs of repairs,new engines and the loss of operational capability will likely end up around £30 M! Not bad for a bit of spray paint and a bit of a lark is it?
Has the Irish govt actually labelled Israel as a terrorist state then if not she can wind her neck in and worry about her own country before having a go at us!
( Qatar has just been attacked,plenty of Brits there who would have been very pleased if these planes were operational) [Post edited 23 Jun 18:08]
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Does this help?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/benjamin-netanyahu-micheal-martin-irela
Presumably you will stick to commenting on U.K. stuff, until someone from a foreign country deems the U.K. government has its house in order? |  | | |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:48 - Jun 23 with 409 views | bluejacko |
Where does it say Israel is a terrorist state? You forget who barged unwelcome comments about us! Personally I don’t give a stuff what you lot do or don’t but she can still wind her neck in! | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:50 - Jun 23 with 395 views | bluejacko |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:20 - Jun 23 by Herbivore |
You seem to be under the impression that people don't think what happened was serious. It was serious and the proper response is to prosecute those responsible, not to falsely brand a whole protest organisation as terrorist. |
Well thankfully the Govt doesn’t share your sentiments and done the right thing👍 | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:51 - Jun 23 with 384 views | reusersfreekicks |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:20 - Jun 23 by Herbivore |
You seem to be under the impression that people don't think what happened was serious. It was serious and the proper response is to prosecute those responsible, not to falsely brand a whole protest organisation as terrorist. |
Think that's a rather too subtle distinction for them [Post edited 23 Jun 18:53]
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:59 - Jun 23 with 368 views | redrickstuhaart |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:20 - Jun 23 by Herbivore |
You seem to be under the impression that people don't think what happened was serious. It was serious and the proper response is to prosecute those responsible, not to falsely brand a whole protest organisation as terrorist. |
Correct.
Is their intent to spread terror and put the population in fear of idiscrimnate (or even targetted) physical harm? No.
Thought and opinion policing is incredibly dangerous and dare I say it, Trumpian. | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:00 - Jun 23 with 367 views | eireblue |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:48 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
Where does it say Israel is a terrorist state? You forget who barged unwelcome comments about us! Personally I don’t give a stuff what you lot do or don’t but she can still wind her neck in! |
The Irish government was the first in the European Union to say what Israel is doing is genocide.
So I am afraid you can’t comment, and you will have to wind your neck in on all topics related to the Republic of Ireland and its citizens, and the full Irish diaspora, until the U.K. gets it’s house in order. Your rules, apparently. | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:06 - Jun 23 with 350 views | Herbivore |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:50 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
Well thankfully the Govt doesn’t share your sentiments and done the right thing👍 |
The government you usually constantly criticise has done the easy thing that'll appeal to a certain demographic. That doesn't make it the right thing. | |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:09 - Jun 23 with 346 views | Kievthegreat |
It's quite a worrying precedent, not because of the people who broke onto the airfield who can easily face a plethora of charges and quite rightly should.
The issue is that proscribing the organisation means that being a member or supporting them is now a crime. Support can also be extremely wide net to cast. It can be facilitating criminal activity or merely expressing support on social media or holding a flag/placard. It's ludicrous to lump this organisation with Al Qaeda, neo-nazis, Hezbollah, etc... whichever way you cut it. |  | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:09 - Jun 23 with 342 views | Churchman |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:05 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
Tatchell has been on the telly and like this Irish writer he is dense!
Obviously a bit more was done than just ‘spray a plane’ as both claim! I’m sure you have all been keeping up with the consequences of this attack?
Apparently as of now the estimated costs of repairs,new engines and the loss of operational capability will likely end up around £30 M! Not bad for a bit of spray paint and a bit of a lark is it?
Has the Irish govt actually labelled Israel as a terrorist state then if not she can wind her neck in and worry about her own country before having a go at us!
( Qatar has just been attacked,plenty of Brits there who would have been very pleased if these planes were operational) [Post edited 23 Jun 18:08]
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Well, if the cost is £30m, that’s £30m less to spend on defence at the most perilous time for this country in years. £30m equates to pay for about 1000 soldiers for a year or 23,000 brand new SA80 rifles. Money that won’t be ‘found’ or replaced unless it is saved from some other area of defence spending.
So yours and my money down the drain. Gone. And that’s before you get to the threat to the lives of the crew.
Personally, if these clowns are ever caught the first, basic action I would take would be to bill them for the £30m. If they cannot pay, their relations can. Or they can work the debt off for the rest of their lives, in or out of prison. But of course, they posed a threat to life and the security of this nation, so they’d be answerable for that too.
These people should be held truly accountable for their actions. Everyone has the right of protest. But not potentially at yours and my expense or potentially at the expense of the lives of the crews. |  | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:14 - Jun 23 with 315 views | redrickstuhaart |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:09 - Jun 23 by Churchman |
Well, if the cost is £30m, that’s £30m less to spend on defence at the most perilous time for this country in years. £30m equates to pay for about 1000 soldiers for a year or 23,000 brand new SA80 rifles. Money that won’t be ‘found’ or replaced unless it is saved from some other area of defence spending.
So yours and my money down the drain. Gone. And that’s before you get to the threat to the lives of the crew.
Personally, if these clowns are ever caught the first, basic action I would take would be to bill them for the £30m. If they cannot pay, their relations can. Or they can work the debt off for the rest of their lives, in or out of prison. But of course, they posed a threat to life and the security of this nation, so they’d be answerable for that too.
These people should be held truly accountable for their actions. Everyone has the right of protest. But not potentially at yours and my expense or potentially at the expense of the lives of the crews. |
Everyone agrees they should be accountable.
Thats not the same as banning a protest organisation with anti terror laws. | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:39 - Jun 23 with 267 views | Churchman |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:14 - Jun 23 by redrickstuhaart |
Everyone agrees they should be accountable.
Thats not the same as banning a protest organisation with anti terror laws. |
I never said it was. As I’ve indicated earlier, I’d consider invoking treason laws, because the more I think about it, the more that’s what it was. It is serious. Destructive action by British people against its own people cannot be passed off as ‘a protest’.
I haven’t really considered what laws or definitions are being used, but this organisation’s track record for violence isn’t good, if the government’s view of them is the correct one. It is something more than a protest organisation. Anti terrorist laws may well not be appropriate. If so, then maybe something else needs to be put into law. | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:50 - Jun 23 with 246 views | DJR |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:09 - Jun 23 by Kievthegreat |
It's quite a worrying precedent, not because of the people who broke onto the airfield who can easily face a plethora of charges and quite rightly should.
The issue is that proscribing the organisation means that being a member or supporting them is now a crime. Support can also be extremely wide net to cast. It can be facilitating criminal activity or merely expressing support on social media or holding a flag/placard. It's ludicrous to lump this organisation with Al Qaeda, neo-nazis, Hezbollah, etc... whichever way you cut it. |
If Palestine Action were already proscribed, all those attending today's protest could face imprisonment of up to 14 years.
And if I were to say on TWTD that I support their other previous action but not the attack on the plane, the same would be true of me.
Talk about authoritarianism. [Post edited 23 Jun 19:52]
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:50 - Jun 23 with 244 views | reusersfreekicks |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:39 - Jun 23 by Churchman |
I never said it was. As I’ve indicated earlier, I’d consider invoking treason laws, because the more I think about it, the more that’s what it was. It is serious. Destructive action by British people against its own people cannot be passed off as ‘a protest’.
I haven’t really considered what laws or definitions are being used, but this organisation’s track record for violence isn’t good, if the government’s view of them is the correct one. It is something more than a protest organisation. Anti terrorist laws may well not be appropriate. If so, then maybe something else needs to be put into law. |
Treason! That's ridiculous and way ott.
Trumpian even | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 20:05 - Jun 23 with 216 views | Churchman |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:50 - Jun 23 by reusersfreekicks |
Treason! That's ridiculous and way ott.
Trumpian even |
Why?
In WW2 as a British citizen if you broke into an airbase and damaged aircraft or any other base come to that, you were essentially fighting against your own people. Betrayal? Treason? Whatever term you’d like to apply, you faced the gallows.
Other than execution (rightly) long since taken off the statue book, it’s exactly the same principle so is use of that term that much OTT?
Or do you view it as nothing. A little bit of paint meriting a slap on the wrist for a minor protest? How would you classify it and what would you do with the perpetrators?
Accusing me of being Trumpian given my well known views of him, that is what’s ridiculous. | | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 20:08 - Jun 23 with 212 views | BloomBlue |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:50 - Jun 23 by DJR |
If Palestine Action were already proscribed, all those attending today's protest could face imprisonment of up to 14 years.
And if I were to say on TWTD that I support their other previous action but not the attack on the plane, the same would be true of me.
Talk about authoritarianism. [Post edited 23 Jun 19:52]
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Remember to stick a mobile phone up your anus so you can continue to participate in TWTD during your 14 years in prison |  | | |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 20:09 - Jun 23 with 207 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 13:55 - Jun 23 by baxterbasics |
This was not a non-violent action. Destruction of property or equipment is still violence, doesn't have to be against a person. |
Sorry, but I can’t agree with that. Spraying paint isn’t violent. It may cause damage to property, but in no way is it violent. Killing tens of thousands of women and children is violent however, yet we don’t see that as such a terrorist action, which is just bizarre and repulsive imo. |  |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 20:15 - Jun 23 with 191 views | Swansea_Blue |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 18:05 - Jun 23 by bluejacko |
Tatchell has been on the telly and like this Irish writer he is dense!
Obviously a bit more was done than just ‘spray a plane’ as both claim! I’m sure you have all been keeping up with the consequences of this attack?
Apparently as of now the estimated costs of repairs,new engines and the loss of operational capability will likely end up around £30 M! Not bad for a bit of spray paint and a bit of a lark is it?
Has the Irish govt actually labelled Israel as a terrorist state then if not she can wind her neck in and worry about her own country before having a go at us!
( Qatar has just been attacked,plenty of Brits there who would have been very pleased if these planes were operational) [Post edited 23 Jun 18:08]
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Nobody’s saying it’s not criminal damage. You’re deliberately misrepresenting what some of us are saying on this thread. Yes, they’re committing crimes trespassed. Yes, they trespassed in a military space where they risked serious consequences (potentially including being shot on sight). Yes, they caused expensive damage. They knew all this, but they thought the genocide that our government is supporting was worth the consequences they would face. Balls of steel if you ask me. It takes guts to stand up to an immoral government. | |
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| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 20:22 - Jun 23 with 170 views | bluejacko |
| If you support Palestine, you're a terrorist... on 19:00 - Jun 23 by eireblue |
The Irish government was the first in the European Union to say what Israel is doing is genocide.
So I am afraid you can’t comment, and you will have to wind your neck in on all topics related to the Republic of Ireland and its citizens, and the full Irish diaspora, until the U.K. gets it’s house in order. Your rules, apparently. |
As a country that can’t even convict Gerry Adam’s for being in the IRA I can’t really take you seriously when it comes to comments on terrorism! Saying Israel is committing genocide is still not declaring Israel a terrorist state is it? If a journalist criticises our govt for its actions then she can be called out,,if she is going to do so though she could always get her facts right before commenting!
If you are that interested there is a debate in our parliament soon where this group’s actions will be discussed and apparently there is a good amount of info to come out as to why they have been proscribed,so it would seem we are trying to get our house in order thank you👍 | | | |
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