| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... 08:28 - Jul 2 with 2653 views | bluesbrothers |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:34 - Jul 2 with 2311 views | bsw72 |
Finding the right player(s) and negotiating transfers/contracts? |  | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:35 - Jul 2 with 2308 views | bluesbrothers |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:34 - Jul 2 by bsw72 |
Finding the right player(s) and negotiating transfers/contracts? |
Good news tho... 6 weeks ago
“We’ve tried to [look towards next season],” he said. “Are we in a better position now than if we were playing West Ham on the last day and everything was still open? In terms of planning for next year, we are in a better position now as we have been able to have a conversation with our players and other clubs about players we would like to acquire.
“Not that everything is done and dusted, but we are a lot further down the line, especially with the Premier League season finishing a lot later than the Championship season. | | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:36 - Jul 2 with 2298 views | SheffordBlue |
Not an excuse but looking at our deals from last summer:
30th June - Omari signs permanently
1st July - Ben Johnson signs on a free
Our next signings didn't take place until the 12th (Greaves) and 13th (Delap).
The general lack of noise is probably contributing to the concern but that doesn't necessarily equate to deals not progressing as expected. | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:39 - Jul 2 with 2256 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
God our fans are so miserable. |  |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:44 - Jul 2 with 2209 views | Wickets |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:39 - Jul 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
God our fans are so miserable. |
Well said but it's only the minority, most are sensible. |  | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:50 - Jul 2 with 2158 views | bsw72 |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:35 - Jul 2 by bluesbrothers |
Good news tho... 6 weeks ago
“We’ve tried to [look towards next season],” he said. “Are we in a better position now than if we were playing West Ham on the last day and everything was still open? In terms of planning for next year, we are in a better position now as we have been able to have a conversation with our players and other clubs about players we would like to acquire.
“Not that everything is done and dusted, but we are a lot further down the line, especially with the Premier League season finishing a lot later than the Championship season. |
OK, so what exactly is your point? | | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 09:13 - Jul 2 with 2008 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:39 - Jul 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
God our fans are so miserable. |
You are right "Some of our fans are so miserable"
It staggers me. I know some fans don't like the "look where we have come from" thing, but do people seriously not remember how bad we were and how depressing it was. The extent of our transfer business being free transfers and cast offs from championship clubs. Now we are a parachute team who are obviously taking our time because we are aiming high and will likely spend serious cash. Yet still some of our fans moan relentlessly. Madness. | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:17 - Jul 2 with 1785 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 09:13 - Jul 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
You are right "Some of our fans are so miserable"
It staggers me. I know some fans don't like the "look where we have come from" thing, but do people seriously not remember how bad we were and how depressing it was. The extent of our transfer business being free transfers and cast offs from championship clubs. Now we are a parachute team who are obviously taking our time because we are aiming high and will likely spend serious cash. Yet still some of our fans moan relentlessly. Madness. |
Everything is about perspective... surely the clue is in the TWTD name.
Most of us understand the 'look where we have come from' but hanker after a permanent place at the top table, Their is nothing wrong with that ambition, after all that is what sport is all about.
We have made huge progress, relegation was always likely but so is automatic promotion this season. We can't afford to lose this momentum, now is the time for KMK to prove he is the real deal and show us what he has learnt. | | | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:25 - Jul 2 with 1714 views | Guthrum |
It wasn't a real reason for transfers not to be happening, except with free agents having their contracts run out. It's not assessed on a yearly basis, but a rolling three seasons. I doubt too many clubs are doing financial planning for 2027-28 in that much detail yet. |  |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:26 - Jul 2 with 1696 views | Smoresy |
Small point of order: if you considered PSR a sensible explanation last week for the lack of business, it remains just as relevant today.
1) We've waved goodbye to a financial year in which we recorded a tiny surplus, so all the damage would have been done in the two that are carried forward.
2) All the transfer fee instalments that were relevant last week are still live today, and they need to be paid in a financial year with substantially reduced revenue.
Have wage reductions outstripped our predicted revenue reduction by such a large amount that we now have significant PSR headroom again, when perhaps we were butting up against the limit a few days ago? With all this amortisation to contend with?
I don't believe it has been a stumbling block for the record, but whatever the picture was last week, superb or a bit iffy, it shouldn't have dramatically improved with a new financial year. | | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:29 - Jul 2 with 1669 views | Bellevue_Blue |
It's abundantly clear that the majority of our transfer targets are younger Premier League players, which naturally means we're dealing with the biggest clubs. Phil has already indicated that the focus remains on the domestic market, and that's been reflected in concrete links to players like Mubama from City and Guiu from Chelsea.
These kinds of deals are rarely completed in early July. There’s a clear hierarchy—just look at how many deals clubs like Chelsea, City, Liverpool, and Forest have finalised so far.
Those clubs need time to assess their squads during pre-season. Only once they've made their own additions and settled on their tour squads do they begin to move fringe players on to either reduce numbers or generate funds.
Remember the Leif Davis deal when Leeds were in the Premier League? It was effectively agreed, but they held off so he could play for for them in Australia.
If the season started tomorrow, we'd still have a very solid starting XI. I really don’t understand the level of concern.
Now more than ever, it’s about quality over quantity. [Post edited 2 Jul 10:29]
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:41 - Jul 2 with 1544 views | nrb1985 |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:17 - Jul 2 by Blue_In_Boston |
Everything is about perspective... surely the clue is in the TWTD name.
Most of us understand the 'look where we have come from' but hanker after a permanent place at the top table, Their is nothing wrong with that ambition, after all that is what sport is all about.
We have made huge progress, relegation was always likely but so is automatic promotion this season. We can't afford to lose this momentum, now is the time for KMK to prove he is the real deal and show us what he has learnt. |
"now is the time for KMK to prove he is the real deal and show us what he has learnt"
Eh?! | | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:46 - Jul 2 with 1486 views | NedPlimpton |
Sorry, what's wrong?
Do you need to talk about it? |  | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:47 - Jul 2 with 1478 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:17 - Jul 2 by Blue_In_Boston |
Everything is about perspective... surely the clue is in the TWTD name.
Most of us understand the 'look where we have come from' but hanker after a permanent place at the top table, Their is nothing wrong with that ambition, after all that is what sport is all about.
We have made huge progress, relegation was always likely but so is automatic promotion this season. We can't afford to lose this momentum, now is the time for KMK to prove he is the real deal and show us what he has learnt. |
There is nothing wrong with ambition, I think almost all fans are expecting (rightly) to be challenging at the top of the table.
But there is without doubt a section of fans on here and other platforms that put a negative spin on EVERYTHING and I just cannot understand it because of how much the progress the club has made. Don't we owe them a bit of respect and patience. I think so.
KM already showed me he was the real deal when he got a group of players he took over in league one to 90+ points in the championship and up to the prem at the first time of asking, but hey. | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:49 - Jul 2 with 1473 views | Guthrum |
Up to 30th June, only 22 transfers to Championship teams had taken place, four of those being to Norwich and another couple to newly promoted teams. Plus a couple of loans. Over a quarter of the division hadn't signed anybody to that date, half had hired just one player.
Yesterday 25 more deals went through, all bar two of which were free transfers (obviously dated for after the end of previous contracts).
It's not like there's been massive movement so far. | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:52 - Jul 2 with 1442 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:36 - Jul 2 by SheffordBlue |
Not an excuse but looking at our deals from last summer:
30th June - Omari signs permanently
1st July - Ben Johnson signs on a free
Our next signings didn't take place until the 12th (Greaves) and 13th (Delap).
The general lack of noise is probably contributing to the concern but that doesn't necessarily equate to deals not progressing as expected. |
Exactly this. I suspect there is a few reasons (ie, Chelsea still playing abroad in some pointless tournament) being the reason certain targets haven’t arrived. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a player arrive from them or city after it finishes.
We are in the first week in July. Suspect things will move in the next week or 2 as players return. Some of the deals will be way down the line but not yet complete I suspect. |  |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:56 - Jul 2 with 1392 views | Guthrum |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:41 - Jul 2 by nrb1985 |
"now is the time for KMK to prove he is the real deal and show us what he has learnt"
Eh?! |
It's not an entirely wrong perspective.
McKenna has had much success getting Town from mid-table L1 to the Prem. It took a major struggle to achieve it. However, this relegation is his first big setback. The next stage of proving himself a potentially great manager is how he and his team overcomes that, whether he can get us back to the highest level and secure that position. | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:07 - Jul 2 with 1306 views | RegencyBlue |
I don’t know about excuses but given the level of players we are supposed to be aiming for the deals are going to be harder to do. I think there will be an element of that type of player, and their clubs, waiting to see if better offers come in.
The Chelsea striker we are interested in looks to be a classic example. It’s reported Chelsea won’t make a decision on what they want to do with him until they come back from the cup competition they are in. If they make the final that could be as late as mid July! We are not the only club looking at him so this could drag on even longer than that. The obvious problem with this sort of scenario is of course that if we can’t get a deal done it doesn’t give us very long to move on to plan B and if we can get the deal done there isn’t much time to integrate the player into the squad before the season starts. |  | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:11 - Jul 2 with 1229 views | nrb1985 |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 10:56 - Jul 2 by Guthrum |
It's not an entirely wrong perspective.
McKenna has had much success getting Town from mid-table L1 to the Prem. It took a major struggle to achieve it. However, this relegation is his first big setback. The next stage of proving himself a potentially great manager is how he and his team overcomes that, whether he can get us back to the highest level and secure that position. |
I believe the OP is referring to the lack of signings when they refer to "momentum". Do they think KM is responsible for getting negotiations and contracts done?
Even if he/she is talking about on the pitch stuff, the season doesn't start for 6 weeks. What is he supposed to be showing exactly and how?!
It's July 2nd ffs. [Post edited 2 Jul 11:13]
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:17 - Jul 2 with 1172 views | Basuco |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:07 - Jul 2 by RegencyBlue |
I don’t know about excuses but given the level of players we are supposed to be aiming for the deals are going to be harder to do. I think there will be an element of that type of player, and their clubs, waiting to see if better offers come in.
The Chelsea striker we are interested in looks to be a classic example. It’s reported Chelsea won’t make a decision on what they want to do with him until they come back from the cup competition they are in. If they make the final that could be as late as mid July! We are not the only club looking at him so this could drag on even longer than that. The obvious problem with this sort of scenario is of course that if we can’t get a deal done it doesn’t give us very long to move on to plan B and if we can get the deal done there isn’t much time to integrate the player into the squad before the season starts. |
Exactly, also the type of player we are looking at bringing in will be in high demand which makes it so much harder to get the deal over the line, relax and enjoy the excitement when the new signings are announced. |  | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:21 - Jul 2 with 1143 views | Guthrum |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:11 - Jul 2 by nrb1985 |
I believe the OP is referring to the lack of signings when they refer to "momentum". Do they think KM is responsible for getting negotiations and contracts done?
Even if he/she is talking about on the pitch stuff, the season doesn't start for 6 weeks. What is he supposed to be showing exactly and how?!
It's July 2nd ffs. [Post edited 2 Jul 11:13]
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I was referring specifically to the line you had quoted from the previous post. In the context of the whole summer and the coming season. I've answered the OP elsewhere in the thread.
McKenna does have a large part in identifying the targets for the club to go after, the quality and type of player to recruit. He is also involved in the negotiations, selling his vision for the team. How many times have players said they decided to come after speaking to the manager? | |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:45 - Jul 2 with 988 views | nrb1985 |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:21 - Jul 2 by Guthrum |
I was referring specifically to the line you had quoted from the previous post. In the context of the whole summer and the coming season. I've answered the OP elsewhere in the thread.
McKenna does have a large part in identifying the targets for the club to go after, the quality and type of player to recruit. He is also involved in the negotiations, selling his vision for the team. How many times have players said they decided to come after speaking to the manager? |
I agree re Mckenna having a large part to play in identifying and speaking to targets.
But to my original point, it's the 2nd of July - the fact nobody has signed isn't down to KM or his lack of ambition is it?! | | | |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:59 - Jul 2 with 885 views | Illinoisblue |
Have a good pout and stomp your feet. Let it all out. |  |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 12:14 - Jul 2 with 802 views | NthQldITFC |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 08:39 - Jul 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
God our fans are so miserable. |
Not necessarily. |  |
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| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 13:36 - Jul 2 with 548 views | Guthrum |
| Waiting for the PSR/Financial Year to reset was a good excuse to cling on to... on 11:45 - Jul 2 by nrb1985 |
I agree re Mckenna having a large part to play in identifying and speaking to targets.
But to my original point, it's the 2nd of July - the fact nobody has signed isn't down to KM or his lack of ambition is it?! |
Indeed. See my post of 10:49 - until yesterday's batch of mostly free transfers, not that much has been happening in the Champ, apart from Norwich's shopping spree. | |
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