| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney 18:53 - Jul 22 with 5459 views | Parky |
According to the following :- https://t.co/wE9uVpdGyu
He was never coming here in a million years, we aim far too high. I make that Guiu, Ferguson, Hackney, Cajuste all on our ‘list’. |  | | |  |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:13 - Jul 22 with 1289 views | StokieBlue |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 20:07 - Jul 22 by SitfcB |
Aiming too high going for unreachable players whilst 2nd/3rd choices bet gobbled up elsewhere? |
Any proof sitters?
Give us some examples and links to our interest.
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:18 - Jul 22 with 1238 views | DavoIPB |
No we need to stop buying these you g over priced players and do what Kieran said a couple of weeks ago look to the top European leagues for cheaper but better players. | | | |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:24 - Jul 22 with 1180 views | LeoMuff |
We are in a tricky spot, we want players of prem quality/potential that what gets you automatically promoted and with a chance of surviving the prem.
Those deals are incredibly hard as the prem has money to burn and can offer far higher wages, hence we are left with the scraps which are normally dished out in august.
The other top championship players not quite prem good enough are also in demand from clubs like us or abroad, I don’t think there is many harder spots in football than our position.
We have done weel so far, and tying Dara down was huge, luckily 1 striker and 2 CMs is all we need for a very high quality championship squad. |  |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:31 - Jul 22 with 1141 views | SitfcB |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:13 - Jul 22 by StokieBlue |
Any proof sitters?
Give us some examples and links to our interest.
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Seemingly missed out on what I’d say were top targets that we probably chased for a while…
Guiu (Doesn’t want to come)
Agyemang (Gone to Derby)
Ruiz (Doesn’t want to come)
Ferguson (Gone to Roma)
Cajuste (Didn’t want to come?)
Meanwhile someone we were also believed to be interested in and probably down the list was Burger from Stoke. (Gone elsewhere) |  |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:32 - Jul 22 with 1120 views | Kieran_Knows |
Confident of signing him, but yet to make a bid. |  |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:36 - Jul 22 with 1101 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:31 - Jul 22 by SitfcB |
Seemingly missed out on what I’d say were top targets that we probably chased for a while…
Guiu (Doesn’t want to come)
Agyemang (Gone to Derby)
Ruiz (Doesn’t want to come)
Ferguson (Gone to Roma)
Cajuste (Didn’t want to come?)
Meanwhile someone we were also believed to be interested in and probably down the list was Burger from Stoke. (Gone elsewhere) |
Didn't phil say we haven't bid for any of them. |  |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:41 - Jul 22 with 1072 views | StokieBlue |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:31 - Jul 22 by SitfcB |
Seemingly missed out on what I’d say were top targets that we probably chased for a while…
Guiu (Doesn’t want to come)
Agyemang (Gone to Derby)
Ruiz (Doesn’t want to come)
Ferguson (Gone to Roma)
Cajuste (Didn’t want to come?)
Meanwhile someone we were also believed to be interested in and probably down the list was Burger from Stoke. (Gone elsewhere) |
So one very dubious example of a possible second target. No more second targets missed let alone third targets like you stated.
Not even convinced about the first targets you've listed, Agyemang for instance.
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:58 - Jul 22 with 996 views | SitfcB |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:41 - Jul 22 by StokieBlue |
So one very dubious example of a possible second target. No more second targets missed let alone third targets like you stated.
Not even convinced about the first targets you've listed, Agyemang for instance.
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I was only insinuating anyway, hence the ‘?’ at the end.
It could well be a case of us chasing too targets for too long whilst others down the list move on.
I’m normally always very calm when it comes to transfers but was just expecting a bit more by this point really seeing as we were mathematically down by the end of April and Ashton said we were ‘well down the line’ on deals not long after.
Yes the window is still open for ages but would’ve been nice to get a big chunk of new lads in before the season started but anyway faith has to remain that we will get who and what we want eventually but there is evidence of panic buying previously under this regime.
Not talking masses amounts of players are we, desperately need another striker and CM at the minimum. Two big positions. [Post edited 22 Jul 23:01]
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 23:03 - Jul 22 with 956 views | SitfcB |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:36 - Jul 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Didn't phil say we haven't bid for any of them. |
Isn’t it known these days clubs don’t bother with a bid unless they get a whiff that a player is interested?
Is why I was quite positive with the official approach news for Hackney last week tbh. | |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 23:15 - Jul 22 with 936 views | Vaughan8 |
I wouldn't say we are "aiming too high", we're just in a strange market where we can probably only get these type of players if no premier league club is interested....!
None of us know what is going on in the background but I'm trusting we know what we are doing and I'll confirm that after the deadline.
I still think we have enough good players to win games we play before the transfer deadline window. | | | |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 23:16 - Jul 22 with 928 views | Trequartista |
Seem to be a lot hawks after Hackney. (One for the speedway fans there). |  |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 23:18 - Jul 22 with 903 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 22:58 - Jul 22 by SitfcB |
I was only insinuating anyway, hence the ‘?’ at the end.
It could well be a case of us chasing too targets for too long whilst others down the list move on.
I’m normally always very calm when it comes to transfers but was just expecting a bit more by this point really seeing as we were mathematically down by the end of April and Ashton said we were ‘well down the line’ on deals not long after.
Yes the window is still open for ages but would’ve been nice to get a big chunk of new lads in before the season started but anyway faith has to remain that we will get who and what we want eventually but there is evidence of panic buying previously under this regime.
Not talking masses amounts of players are we, desperately need another striker and CM at the minimum. Two big positions. [Post edited 22 Jul 23:01]
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Thing is, and I could be wrong here (and would happily be proved so), but I struggle to believe it when people say ‘we’re aiming so high and missing out on other targets’. I would simply be amazed if that’s how it works.
I imagine the club will have drawn up a list of say, 6 players, who all match and fit the criteria of the position required - in this case a centre mid - and either a) work on all those players at the same time and push the button on the whichever one they get the best value on, or b) work their way down the list with none of them being viewed as the ‘top’ tier signing.
As for Hackney, as as I mentioned in a thread earlier today, that whilst he may have interest from several teams in the PL and further afield… but until one of those make an acceptable offer to Boro or him, then we will be firmly in the mix, I.e, if we’re the only ones with an offer in to Boro (and no reason to doubt Phil and a couple of ITK accounts on X), and that’s his only offer on the table also (again we wouldn’t be making these offers if we haven’t had an indication he wasn’t willing to join), then we must believe we stand a good chance of signing him. And if we don’t, we simply move on to the next target.
Palace can be confident all they like, but until an offer goes in to Boro for him, it’s pretty irrelevant. | |
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 08:24 - Jul 23 with 642 views | tonybied |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 20:01 - Jul 22 by BlueMoon |
Is that a model? I’m not sure it is. Missing out on a target and getting them at a later date isn’t a target strategy it’s making the best out of an imperfect situation.
If anything it says we’re still not able to identify different prospects a year later so we carry on plugging away with the original target. Hence why I think the scouting issue is so rightly pointed out by McKenna.
As to an example of going back in for a player; Philogene is a recent example but what others are there? Too early in his case to say if it will be a success or not - fingers crossed… |
Okay, maybe model was the wrong choice of word. It is a process we seem to follow though.
Philogene, Taylor, Hirst and Delap are all players we secured on our 2nd or 3rd attempt. |  | | |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 11:21 - Jul 23 with 498 views | glasso |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 19:06 - Jul 22 by Parky |
Posted by Graeme Bailey, who is a very well respected journalist.
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Very respected journalist who writes their instead of there? Christ. | | | |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 11:37 - Jul 23 with 383 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 23:18 - Jul 22 by Kieran_Knows |
Thing is, and I could be wrong here (and would happily be proved so), but I struggle to believe it when people say ‘we’re aiming so high and missing out on other targets’. I would simply be amazed if that’s how it works.
I imagine the club will have drawn up a list of say, 6 players, who all match and fit the criteria of the position required - in this case a centre mid - and either a) work on all those players at the same time and push the button on the whichever one they get the best value on, or b) work their way down the list with none of them being viewed as the ‘top’ tier signing.
As for Hackney, as as I mentioned in a thread earlier today, that whilst he may have interest from several teams in the PL and further afield… but until one of those make an acceptable offer to Boro or him, then we will be firmly in the mix, I.e, if we’re the only ones with an offer in to Boro (and no reason to doubt Phil and a couple of ITK accounts on X), and that’s his only offer on the table also (again we wouldn’t be making these offers if we haven’t had an indication he wasn’t willing to join), then we must believe we stand a good chance of signing him. And if we don’t, we simply move on to the next target.
Palace can be confident all they like, but until an offer goes in to Boro for him, it’s pretty irrelevant. |
I'd imagine it is a case of him being told by his agent he is a B or C target for the likes of Palace/Everton and wanting to wait it out until he is sure they aren't going to work down their lists and come in for him. We on the other hand have him as an A+ target and are willing to risk waiting.
Pretty telling that it seems this £15m bid is just left on the table and hasn't been dismissed as out of hand by Boro as far as I am aware. Although they will be happy to wait a bit in hope of a bidding war. [Post edited 23 Jul 11:38]
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| Crystal Palace confident of signing Hackney on 12:20 - Jul 23 with 214 views | billlm |
Were a second class club so that's the market we're in were not competing with any premiership club and that includes the three that went up this season |  | | |
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