| Junior Doctors 09:08 - Jul 25 with 7996 views | Chris_ITFC |
Yeah, I want a 30% pay rise too mate. |  |
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| Junior Doctors on 18:23 - Jul 25 with 806 views | redrickstuhaart |
Not read the rest of the thread but
1- Doctors have been shafted over many years and earn massively less than they used to. They cannot, save for going to private work, swap employers.
2- That said, the same can be said for many many other public sector positions, which have not got the leverage to have achieved the big rise they recently have which has mitigated their position somewhat.
So its a bit rich, but essentially not an unreasonable position. |  | | |
| Junior Doctors on 18:25 - Jul 25 with 795 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Junior Doctors on 13:58 - Jul 25 by Herbivore |
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, sounds like your rep was useless. I've only ever had good experiences with my union. |
I appreciate your concern and perhaps I was unusual, but I only called on them once in 35 years and they were f...g pointless.
Ironically, when later I was made redundant and being offered really good terms they were all over it like a rash even though I did not need the c...ts.
I've only had bad experiences from my unions. Arrogant gits.
But I accept that some of them may mean well, but they have just been useless when needed in my experience.
I dont say this with pleasure or I would not have been a member for half my lifetime. Just with sorrow at being so totally let down by those I considered my backstop. |  | | |
| Junior Doctors on 18:25 - Jul 25 with 794 views | positivity |
| Junior Doctors on 18:19 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Oh dear. The usual suspects ensuring this post gets put in the bin đ |
yes, fookers and benters know exactly what they're doing | |
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| Junior Doctors on 18:28 - Jul 25 with 770 views | Swailsey |
Usual suspects having a mare here. |  |
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| Junior Doctors on 18:42 - Jul 25 with 731 views | NedPlimpton |
| Junior Doctors on 18:25 - Jul 25 by positivity |
yes, fookers and benters know exactly what they're doing |
This |  | | |
| Junior Doctors on 19:58 - Jul 25 with 640 views | jontysnut |
| Junior Doctors on 14:53 - Jul 25 by positivity |
and cut their hours, they have to work far too many. obviously this is more of a long term solution as we'll need to train/import a lot more doctors (and nurses) in the interim.
i don't want an exhausted doctor on ÂŁ15 an hour making life-saving decisions for me or my loved ones! |
I'm not so sure that under their current contract they do work the same 90 hour week as their predecessors. It was all about safe working. If they do a long week with on call it all balances out. |  | | |
| Junior Doctors on 23:26 - Jul 25 with 563 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Junior Doctors on 17:38 - Jul 25 by blueasfook |
"WE WANT BETTER PAY Oh and Free Palestine". I bet there was at least a few Yasser Arafat scarves on show too. |
Wow you really don't give a sh1t about mass death do you.
Board legend! Hardly |  | | |
| Junior Doctors on 23:27 - Jul 25 with 558 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Junior Doctors on 17:41 - Jul 25 by Benters |
and that. |
Maybe one day you'll learn to think for yourself.
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| Junior Doctors on 23:35 - Jul 25 with 534 views | positivity |
| Junior Doctors on 19:58 - Jul 25 by jontysnut |
I'm not so sure that under their current contract they do work the same 90 hour week as their predecessors. It was all about safe working. If they do a long week with on call it all balances out. |
'only' 80 hours a week max, averaged over 4 weeks (so they could work 90 week 1, 70 week 2, 60 week 3, 100 week 4)
that still seems far too much to me for any job, let alone one as demanding and critical as a doctor | |
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| Junior Doctors on 23:39 - Jul 25 with 517 views | Herbivore |
| Junior Doctors on 17:11 - Jul 25 by Millsey |
I will have the interview, listen to what the pay and work structure is, thank them when Iâm hired and weeks later say âIâm underpaid and overworkedâ
But hey every employee says the same!!!!! |
Becoming a doctor isn't like applying to stack shelves at Tesco, mate. |  |
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| Junior Doctors on 23:42 - Jul 25 with 509 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Junior Doctors on 23:39 - Jul 25 by Herbivore |
Becoming a doctor isn't like applying to stack shelves at Tesco, mate. |
Nothing like belittling the working class. | | | |
| Junior Doctors on 23:44 - Jul 25 with 491 views | Herbivore |
| Junior Doctors on 23:42 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Nothing like belittling the working class. |
I should have gone with becoming a doctor isn't like applying to be a low rent troll on a forum for a provincial Championship football club. Imagine wanting that gig! [Post edited 25 Jul 23:48]
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| Junior Doctors on 23:45 - Jul 25 with 494 views | positivity |
| Junior Doctors on 23:42 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Nothing like belittling the working class. |
only you seem to be saying that working class people can't become doctors, who's belittling? | |
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| Junior Doctors on 23:52 - Jul 25 with 454 views | StokieBlue |
| Junior Doctors on 23:42 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Nothing like belittling the working class. |
Nice signature.
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| Junior Doctors on 23:53 - Jul 25 with 463 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Junior Doctors on 23:45 - Jul 25 by positivity |
only you seem to be saying that working class people can't become doctors, who's belittling? |
Herbâs OP makes a very unfair comparison.
Most sociological definitions would not consider doctors working class. They typically earn substantially higher incomes than traditional working-class occupations, possess extensive formal education and professional qualifications, and hold considerable social prestige. Doctors also have significant autonomy in their work, make independent decisions about patient care, and often have supervisory responsibilities over other healthcare staff.
Most sociologists would classify doctors as part of the âprofessional middle classâ or âupper middle class.â This recognises that whilst they may be employees rather than capital owners, their high levels of education, income, social status, and professional autonomy distinguish them from traditional working-class occupations. | | | |
| Junior Doctors on 23:54 - Jul 25 with 451 views | Tonytown |
| Junior Doctors on 18:25 - Jul 25 by positivity |
yes, fookers and benters know exactly what they're doing |
They are just a pair of nasty racists | | | |
| Junior Doctors on 23:57 - Jul 25 with 440 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Junior Doctors on 23:53 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Herbâs OP makes a very unfair comparison.
Most sociological definitions would not consider doctors working class. They typically earn substantially higher incomes than traditional working-class occupations, possess extensive formal education and professional qualifications, and hold considerable social prestige. Doctors also have significant autonomy in their work, make independent decisions about patient care, and often have supervisory responsibilities over other healthcare staff.
Most sociologists would classify doctors as part of the âprofessional middle classâ or âupper middle class.â This recognises that whilst they may be employees rather than capital owners, their high levels of education, income, social status, and professional autonomy distinguish them from traditional working-class occupations. |
Hopeless salad of fallacies.
The point was about working class people becoming doctors, not about the class they are perceived to have, after qualification.
Your posts get more desperate and pathetic with each passing day. | | | |
| Junior Doctors on 23:59 - Jul 25 with 424 views | StokieBlue |
| Junior Doctors on 23:53 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Herbâs OP makes a very unfair comparison.
Most sociological definitions would not consider doctors working class. They typically earn substantially higher incomes than traditional working-class occupations, possess extensive formal education and professional qualifications, and hold considerable social prestige. Doctors also have significant autonomy in their work, make independent decisions about patient care, and often have supervisory responsibilities over other healthcare staff.
Most sociologists would classify doctors as part of the âprofessional middle classâ or âupper middle class.â This recognises that whilst they may be employees rather than capital owners, their high levels of education, income, social status, and professional autonomy distinguish them from traditional working-class occupations. |
That text is lifted almost word-for-word from Chat GTP if you ask the relevant question.
You're just on the wind-up again, same as you are everyday, same as you are with your signature.
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| Junior Doctors on 00:06 - Jul 26 with 404 views | Herbivore |
| Junior Doctors on 23:53 - Jul 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Herbâs OP makes a very unfair comparison.
Most sociological definitions would not consider doctors working class. They typically earn substantially higher incomes than traditional working-class occupations, possess extensive formal education and professional qualifications, and hold considerable social prestige. Doctors also have significant autonomy in their work, make independent decisions about patient care, and often have supervisory responsibilities over other healthcare staff.
Most sociologists would classify doctors as part of the âprofessional middle classâ or âupper middle class.â This recognises that whilst they may be employees rather than capital owners, their high levels of education, income, social status, and professional autonomy distinguish them from traditional working-class occupations. |
Well done, you can use ChatGPT. | |
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| Junior Doctors on 00:11 - Jul 26 with 392 views | Herbivore |
| Junior Doctors on 23:45 - Jul 25 by positivity |
only you seem to be saying that working class people can't become doctors, who's belittling? |
Indeed. As someone who comes from a working class background and was the first (only) person from their family to go to university, I find the idea that people from working class backgrounds couldn't possibly become doctors deeply offensive. But then troll's gonna troll. | |
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| Junior Doctors on 00:19 - Jul 26 with 370 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Junior Doctors on 00:11 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Indeed. As someone who comes from a working class background and was the first (only) person from their family to go to university, I find the idea that people from working class backgrounds couldn't possibly become doctors deeply offensive. But then troll's gonna troll. |
So you came from working class and now believe the middle class deserve a 30% pay rise whilst the working class donât? Classy. | | | |
| Junior Doctors on 00:21 - Jul 26 with 361 views | StokieBlue |
| Junior Doctors on 00:19 - Jul 26 by SimonBatfordITFC |
So you came from working class and now believe the middle class deserve a 30% pay rise whilst the working class donât? Classy. |
That's nothing like what he has said anywhere on this thread.
Your attempts to wind-up other posters couldn't be more transparent.
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| Junior Doctors on 00:33 - Jul 26 with 343 views | Herbivore |
| Junior Doctors on 00:19 - Jul 26 by SimonBatfordITFC |
So you came from working class and now believe the middle class deserve a 30% pay rise whilst the working class donât? Classy. |
Why do you feel the need to make stuff up and try to wind people up on a forum for fans of a provincial second tier football team? What life choices have you made that have led you to the point where this is how you get your kicks? | |
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| Junior Doctors on 00:37 - Jul 26 with 330 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Junior Doctors on 00:33 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Why do you feel the need to make stuff up and try to wind people up on a forum for fans of a provincial second tier football team? What life choices have you made that have led you to the point where this is how you get your kicks? |
Ah, weâve moved on to changing the subject. Iâll bid you good night.
Donât forget the Town won tonight. Chin up. | | | |
| Junior Doctors on 00:56 - Jul 26 with 300 views | StNeotsBlue |
| Junior Doctors on 00:33 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Why do you feel the need to make stuff up and try to wind people up on a forum for fans of a provincial second tier football team? What life choices have you made that have led you to the point where this is how you get your kicks? |
It's is late on a Friday night but even so that is a serious lack of self-awareness, mate. |  | | |
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