| We're missing Burns 15:34 - Aug 9 with 1244 views | Westcountryblue |
The issue we've had since Burn's ACL is that the balance of our midfield hasn't been right. Philogene, Clarke, Broadhead, Hutchinson, Szmodics and Chaplin (to a lesser extent) are all diminutive ball carrying midfielders. Size doesn't always matter, however, i'm not sure we can carry 4-5 in the team at the same time.
It been evident for the past 10 months or so, that we don't have any wide players or 10's who can go shoulder to shoulder, and in the Premiership the contrast was particularly stark. Often were going up against 6ft plus stacked wide players who were operating up and down the line, with the likes of Clarke and Philogene bouncing off and unable to contain them, envitably putting the defence under a lot of pressure.
Seeminly, the issue has leaked in the central midfield. Azor isn't Morsy. His skill set and qualities are as an interceptor and screener, not an enforcer. Cajuste will help us considerably, but we do lack a talker, leader and an enforcer type, alongside a more physical set of wingers.
We have to address this quickly, as i can see the same issues as last night really hurting us this year. [Post edited 9 Aug 15:35]
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| We're missing Burns on 15:39 - Aug 9 with 1192 views | DavoIPB |
Literally azor's stats are way better than Morsy. He won almost everything last night and was mostly stronger than the opposition. Burns is bit the answer. Lower championship quality at best. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 15:40 - Aug 9 with 1164 views | Garv |
| We're missing Burns on 15:39 - Aug 9 by DavoIPB |
Literally azor's stats are way better than Morsy. He won almost everything last night and was mostly stronger than the opposition. Burns is bit the answer. Lower championship quality at best. |
He should prove to be as good off the ball, but I don't get the impression he's going to dictate much or be as good on the ball. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 15:42 - Aug 9 with 1132 views | Westcountryblue |
| We're missing Burns on 15:39 - Aug 9 by DavoIPB |
Literally azor's stats are way better than Morsy. He won almost everything last night and was mostly stronger than the opposition. Burns is bit the answer. Lower championship quality at best. |
They are different players. Azor is a screening midfielder, Morsy is a box to box enforcer.
Burns might not be the answer - however, the point was we need a player with similiar quaities, not 5-6 diminutive players of the same size and make up. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 15:46 - Aug 9 with 1088 views | boysof1981 |
My worry is will Burns return anything like the player he was? He’s been out so long, just hope when he returns he’s just as good | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 15:46 - Aug 9 with 1090 views | Illinoisblue |
How long is it going to be before Ogbene is fully fit? Judging from last night he’s going to need another month at least. And Burns back by Xmas? You’re right, though, the connections and passages of play have been missing for a while now. Lot of work to do. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 15:47 - Aug 9 with 1064 views | Illinoisblue |
| We're missing Burns on 15:39 - Aug 9 by DavoIPB |
Literally azor's stats are way better than Morsy. He won almost everything last night and was mostly stronger than the opposition. Burns is bit the answer. Lower championship quality at best. |
Can you link to these stats? Trying to see something | |
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| We're missing Burns on 15:53 - Aug 9 with 1016 views | Westcountryblue |
| We're missing Burns on 15:46 - Aug 9 by Illinoisblue |
How long is it going to be before Ogbene is fully fit? Judging from last night he’s going to need another month at least. And Burns back by Xmas? You’re right, though, the connections and passages of play have been missing for a while now. Lot of work to do. |
Looked like he was running through treacle last night and was completely cooked at times. A little concerning to be honest, as he had a nasty injury. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 15:58 - Aug 9 with 974 views | RegencyBlue |
| We're missing Burns on 15:53 - Aug 9 by Westcountryblue |
Looked like he was running through treacle last night and was completely cooked at times. A little concerning to be honest, as he had a nasty injury. |
Ogbene and Burns have both had very serious injuries. Both rely on speed and it’s quite possible neither return to the level they were before.
Hopefully not the case but that could be a real problem for us. |  | | |
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| We're missing Burns on 16:11 - Aug 9 with 889 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
We certainly shouldn’t be all that much with all our expensive upgrades.
Burns has pace and can press well, has a lovely cut back or cross on the deck but also a good amount of flaws. No real left foot and he can’t dribble by anyone like the tricky 10s we’ve bought in to do so. Ogbene is supposed to be the physical winger anyway. Burns has been knocked off the ball fairly easily at times as well, see Leicester equalizer at PR.
I like Wes but with a clamor for the likes of Burns and frustration for some of Greaves over Burgess people are really indirectly having a pop at lasts summers business. These lads will be playing, we spent top dollar on them. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 16:52 - Aug 9 with 758 views | tractor_lady |
| We're missing Burns on 15:39 - Aug 9 by DavoIPB |
Literally azor's stats are way better than Morsy. He won almost everything last night and was mostly stronger than the opposition. Burns is bit the answer. Lower championship quality at best. |
Yet he didn’t come to take the ball off the defence, a key part of our play it out from back…. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 16:58 - Aug 9 with 735 views | Dubtractor |
| We're missing Burns on 15:46 - Aug 9 by Illinoisblue |
How long is it going to be before Ogbene is fully fit? Judging from last night he’s going to need another month at least. And Burns back by Xmas? You’re right, though, the connections and passages of play have been missing for a while now. Lot of work to do. |
I was a little surprised he started last night, as he looked somewhat off the pace against Charlton a week or so back, understandably so.
I guess our limited options, plus his physical presence (in a game that was always going to be a scrap), put him in the starting 11. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 17:44 - Aug 9 with 621 views | franz_tyson |
| We're missing Burns on 15:39 - Aug 9 by DavoIPB |
Literally azor's stats are way better than Morsy. He won almost everything last night and was mostly stronger than the opposition. Burns is bit the answer. Lower championship quality at best. |
Why even bother to watch a game of football... just follow the stats. Why dd i ever think Morsy was the answer? Thank you. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 18:22 - Aug 9 with 498 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I agree we miss Burns. Clarke seemed much better on the right in pre-season. I think we need to start him there and bring Ogbene on (unless Ogbene can play on the left). That then leaves us needing Broadhead or Al Hamadi on the left (if Ogbene can't) until Hutchinson or Philogene or a replacement is available. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 18:42 - Aug 9 with 461 views | ArnieM |
| We're missing Burns on 15:46 - Aug 9 by boysof1981 |
My worry is will Burns return anything like the player he was? He’s been out so long, just hope when he returns he’s just as good |
I agree with you on this. I think Burns was already being considered by McKenna ladt season to drop to a deeper role, (right wing back). I'd like nothing more than to see him flying down that right wing again, but its a massive injury to get at this stage in his career when maybe hes just beginning to lose that edge as a winger. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 19:06 - Aug 9 with 402 views | surreyblue |
| We're missing Burns on 18:22 - Aug 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I agree we miss Burns. Clarke seemed much better on the right in pre-season. I think we need to start him there and bring Ogbene on (unless Ogbene can play on the left). That then leaves us needing Broadhead or Al Hamadi on the left (if Ogbene can't) until Hutchinson or Philogene or a replacement is available. |
I was pondering this earlier - i wonder if a three of clarke, Chaplin and szmodics would work? | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 19:56 - Aug 9 with 340 views | mellowblue |
| We're missing Burns on 19:06 - Aug 9 by surreyblue |
I was pondering this earlier - i wonder if a three of clarke, Chaplin and szmodics would work? |
Personally I think having a wide left player cramps Leif for space. I would give Humphreys a go as a widish midfielder who inverts . In the pre-seaon friendlies Philogene was playing an inverted role on the left, which seemed to work well, gave him a free role. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 19:59 - Aug 9 with 330 views | Nutkins_Return |
| We're missing Burns on 15:46 - Aug 9 by Illinoisblue |
How long is it going to be before Ogbene is fully fit? Judging from last night he’s going to need another month at least. And Burns back by Xmas? You’re right, though, the connections and passages of play have been missing for a while now. Lot of work to do. |
Longer term Ogbena should prove an upgrade on burns. You are probably right we will start to see the best of him in Sept hopefully.
Be nice to have Burns option again though. | |
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| We're missing Burns on 20:08 - Aug 9 with 303 views | Vaughan8 |
A lot of players seem to get better when they're injured.
Burns is a good player but let's be honest, last season he, like a few others, were not great and got a bit found wanting in the PL.
His mistake vs Everton was awful.
Don't get me wrong, I like Burns and he's better than the Ogbene we saw the other day. | | | |
| We're missing Burns on 20:28 - Aug 9 with 253 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Burns and Ogbene are very similar profiles.
We miss Omari, not Burns. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 22:42 - Aug 9 with 147 views | FrimleyBlue |
| We're missing Burns on 18:22 - Aug 9 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I agree we miss Burns. Clarke seemed much better on the right in pre-season. I think we need to start him there and bring Ogbene on (unless Ogbene can play on the left). That then leaves us needing Broadhead or Al Hamadi on the left (if Ogbene can't) until Hutchinson or Philogene or a replacement is available. |
Clarke was better than ogbene on the right in pre season as he was able to spin some players ala hutchinson so it didn't matter if he was back to opponents half, he got himself free
Ogbene is similar to burns in that his skill is running into space. The only way we will see the best of ogbene is to hit balls through for him to run onto. The constant johnson drilled balls onto ogbene at the halfway line was doing my nut in. |  |
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| We're missing Burns on 23:03 - Aug 9 with 86 views | baxterbasics |
Nah, it's Omari we are missing. And may continue to do so. |  |
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