| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes 17:32 - Aug 22 with 1529 views | Vic |
I’ll be very sad. I’ve loved Wolfie’s style since the day I saw him on his debut many moons ago. So classy.
But, romantic stuff aside, am I right in thinking that replacing him with an established Uroguayan international actually strengthens the squad stronger over all? [Post edited 22 Aug 17:33]
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:34 - Aug 22 with 1483 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
It absolutely will strengthen us. There will be a real bun fight for those centre back places. |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:35 - Aug 22 with 1464 views | Ryorry |
Uppie for your opening para (me too).
Guess we'd have to waite & see re your second para! |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:37 - Aug 22 with 1445 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:35 - Aug 22 by Ryorry |
Uppie for your opening para (me too).
Guess we'd have to waite & see re your second para! |
Terry Waite and see? | |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:42 - Aug 22 with 1408 views | Ryorry |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:37 - Aug 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Terry Waite and see? |
Hah! What he went through should be a lesson in patience to us all. Sadly, some on here probably won't even know his name. | |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:47 - Aug 22 with 1355 views | pointofblue |
Yes. It doesn't take away the hurt but bringing Caceres in should strengthen us on paper. Of course we've brought in better players on paper over the past year and improvement, for now, has been negligible. |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 20:03 - Aug 22 with 1099 views | John_Warks_Willy |
Yes. This one will hurt a bit, for sure. |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:11 - Aug 22 with 872 views | ghostofescobar |
Love Woolfy for obvious reasons, but the reality is he is not a top class defender. I have always thought that he gets turned frighteningly easy, and switches off too often. With the ball in front of him, he’s fine, good distributor of the ball, but up close and with players turning him, too vulnerable. But, I’d be sad to see him go for emotional reasons. |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:15 - Aug 22 with 843 views | Vic |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:42 - Aug 22 by Ryorry |
Hah! What he went through should be a lesson in patience to us all. Sadly, some on here probably won't even know his name. |
Sorry, fat fingers. Meant to uppie, obviously! | |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:27 - Aug 22 with 780 views | ArnieM |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:11 - Aug 22 by ghostofescobar |
Love Woolfy for obvious reasons, but the reality is he is not a top class defender. I have always thought that he gets turned frighteningly easy, and switches off too often. With the ball in front of him, he’s fine, good distributor of the ball, but up close and with players turning him, too vulnerable. But, I’d be sad to see him go for emotional reasons. |
Quite agree with you. Overrated as a centre back in my view ( Mckenna clearly doesn't crate him because he rarely plays him and hit in O'Shea). But Woolfenden is put on a pedestal primarily because hes come through the academy. He's "easy on the eye", but lacks so much as a centre back
(heading ability, physical presence in the box, commanding his opponent in the box, tackling, pace). He " walks" the ball out of defence and generally passed it to hus right 2 meters so our build up from defence is so slow.
Cue the down votes, couldnt give a sh it.... hes not good enough |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:28 - Aug 22 with 772 views | pointofblue |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:11 - Aug 22 by ghostofescobar |
Love Woolfy for obvious reasons, but the reality is he is not a top class defender. I have always thought that he gets turned frighteningly easy, and switches off too often. With the ball in front of him, he’s fine, good distributor of the ball, but up close and with players turning him, too vulnerable. But, I’d be sad to see him go for emotional reasons. |
Personal opinion is that would be a valid criticism in the early days of McKenna but I think he's improved massively on that score. He hasn't switched off as much when getting the chance over the past couple of seasons and has been far more accomplished in not being turned either. | |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:29 - Aug 22 with 764 views | mrfixit426 |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:27 - Aug 22 by ArnieM |
Quite agree with you. Overrated as a centre back in my view ( Mckenna clearly doesn't crate him because he rarely plays him and hit in O'Shea). But Woolfenden is put on a pedestal primarily because hes come through the academy. He's "easy on the eye", but lacks so much as a centre back
(heading ability, physical presence in the box, commanding his opponent in the box, tackling, pace). He " walks" the ball out of defence and generally passed it to hus right 2 meters so our build up from defence is so slow.
Cue the down votes, couldnt give a sh it.... hes not good enough |
One thing to note: I've never seen a player intercept so many balls into the box from wide. He's always in the right position. An underrated skill. |  | | |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:35 - Aug 22 with 718 views | pointofblue |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:27 - Aug 22 by ArnieM |
Quite agree with you. Overrated as a centre back in my view ( Mckenna clearly doesn't crate him because he rarely plays him and hit in O'Shea). But Woolfenden is put on a pedestal primarily because hes come through the academy. He's "easy on the eye", but lacks so much as a centre back
(heading ability, physical presence in the box, commanding his opponent in the box, tackling, pace). He " walks" the ball out of defence and generally passed it to hus right 2 meters so our build up from defence is so slow.
Cue the down votes, couldnt give a sh it.... hes not good enough |
He's "put on a pedestal" because he's been a good player for us who has rarely let us down under McKenna. It's all personal opinion of course but, for me, some haven't got over his performances under Lambert, which I get as he certainly had some issues. But I think he's developed under McKenna and hopefully he'll continue to grow and make his mark presumably elsewhere. | |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:49 - Aug 22 with 675 views | chantryblueboy |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:27 - Aug 22 by ArnieM |
Quite agree with you. Overrated as a centre back in my view ( Mckenna clearly doesn't crate him because he rarely plays him and hit in O'Shea). But Woolfenden is put on a pedestal primarily because hes come through the academy. He's "easy on the eye", but lacks so much as a centre back
(heading ability, physical presence in the box, commanding his opponent in the box, tackling, pace). He " walks" the ball out of defence and generally passed it to hus right 2 meters so our build up from defence is so slow.
Cue the down votes, couldnt give a sh it.... hes not good enough |
Everyone knows you don’t rate him, do the board a favour and stop fcking going on about it. So boring | | | |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 22:38 - Aug 22 with 529 views | Vic |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 21:49 - Aug 22 by chantryblueboy |
Everyone knows you don’t rate him, do the board a favour and stop fcking going on about it. So boring |
Poor old Arnie doesnt seem to like anything to do with the club nowadays! | |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 00:50 - Aug 23 with 362 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 17:37 - Aug 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Terry Waite and see? |
The tail end of the last millennium was quite the time for nominative determinism.
There was Terry Waite. Wait. No, keep waiting Terry.
And of course Princess Di. | | | |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 07:30 - Aug 23 with 116 views | NthQldITFC |
A back two of Greaves and this new lad would have me reaching for the Jacob Cracers puns. |  |
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| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 07:51 - Aug 23 with 67 views | jasondozzell |
I really don't want to lose Woolfy.
First Broady now this. 😢
As you say, something so stylish about the way he plays. Effortless.
Remember the Lambert comment about him if he were any more laid back he'd be horizontal?
Rolls Royce of a player especially at champ level. I thought he did well in the PL when he had chances too.
That interview here after the Swindon (I think?) loss at home always comes to mind. Brilliant that after that hes had the success he has with us.
If he does I'll also miss seeing him turn up with the Eminem bleach blond look every so often. Always thought he played better immediately after that..Also loved his Alice band era. But enough of his hair...
Also if he goes who is going to explain what 'on the huh' means to the rest of the heathens in the squad? |  | | |
| If we sign Caceras and Wolfie goes on 07:52 - Aug 23 with 63 views | Len_Brennan |
Sad to see him go too. Putting sentiment aside, he really did step up last season & proved that he the ability & focus to play at PL level, certainly as a squad player. He didn't let ua down at all when he came him & when you think of our defensive mistakes, his name is not the one that springs to mind.
But, if Tuanzebe had stayed with us for this season & we got straight back up, I would still be looking to play him & O'Shea ahead of Woolfie, in the right sided centre half/hybrid roles for the new PL season, and he would not be getting many Championship starts in a more traditional back 4, ahead of O'Shea this season.
For those reasons, it is probably the right decision for Woolfie to move on now & establish himself as a starting centre half for another Championship club. He will go with my best wishes & I will always keep an eye out for his performances at whatever team he joins. | | | |
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