| Club Developed Players 09:15 - Sep 1 with 1162 views | Horsham |
We need to keep one in the 25
I believe currently we’ve got Woolfy, Clark, Baggott and Humphreys who coincidentally also appear on lots of lists of other expected departures.
Which one are you keeping? Or rather play with 8 subs than 9? |  | | |  |
| Club Developed Players on 09:21 - Sep 1 with 1067 views | Swansea_Blue |
Given their current levels, 100% Woolfie. It’s not even close. We’ve got an experienced top Championship defender sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs. It’s almost criminal.
I suspect that ship has sailed though, so it depends on any more incomings. Baggot can cover I’m sure. Same with Humphries, but if the two Humphries doesn’t fit our system as well. He flew last season playing further forward but we don’t have space for him in that role. I’d send Humphries out on loan again. |  |
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| Club Developed Players on 09:24 - Sep 1 with 1013 views | _clive_baker_ |
I think Humphreys stays.
We'll sell Woolf and get the other 2 out on loan. |  | | |
| Club Developed Players on 09:26 - Sep 1 with 979 views | pointofblue |
I imagine we'll want to send Baggott and Humphreys out on loan to gain game experience. That's why McKenna's been so desperate to hold on to Woolfenden. Could Clarke cover the position until January?
Edit: I'm not sure if Clarke was here long enough as a youth before joining Arsenal to count. [Post edited 1 Sep 9:30]
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| Club Developed Players on 09:54 - Sep 1 with 803 views | Pinewoodblue |
It isn’t one club developed player in the 25 man squad. It is one club developed player in the match day squad or only be allowed 8 subs instead of 9.
By my calculations we currently have four option. Woolfenden, Baggott, Humphreys or anyone from our Premier League 2 squad.
Woolfenden wants away as clearly KMc doesn’t see him as a regular starter.
Utilise someone from the U21s and you hinder their development.
Which leaves either Baggott or Humphreys.
Baggott has a new contract and KMc has hinted that Humphreys will be in the squad. |  |
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| Club Developed Players on 09:56 - Sep 1 with 781 views | pointofblue |
| Club Developed Players on 09:54 - Sep 1 by Pinewoodblue |
It isn’t one club developed player in the 25 man squad. It is one club developed player in the match day squad or only be allowed 8 subs instead of 9.
By my calculations we currently have four option. Woolfenden, Baggott, Humphreys or anyone from our Premier League 2 squad.
Woolfenden wants away as clearly KMc doesn’t see him as a regular starter.
Utilise someone from the U21s and you hinder their development.
Which leaves either Baggott or Humphreys.
Baggott has a new contract and KMc has hinted that Humphreys will be in the squad. |
Plus I think if you utilise someone from the U21s they have to be in the match day squad in order to have nine subs. | |
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| Club Developed Players on 10:01 - Sep 1 with 734 views | bsw72 |
One question - if you're naming a player in a bench of 9 just to get you to the 9, with no intention of playing them - why bother, may as well name 8 . . . [Post edited 1 Sep 10:01]
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| Club Developed Players on 10:03 - Sep 1 with 707 views | Garv |
| Club Developed Players on 09:54 - Sep 1 by Pinewoodblue |
It isn’t one club developed player in the 25 man squad. It is one club developed player in the match day squad or only be allowed 8 subs instead of 9.
By my calculations we currently have four option. Woolfenden, Baggott, Humphreys or anyone from our Premier League 2 squad.
Woolfenden wants away as clearly KMc doesn’t see him as a regular starter.
Utilise someone from the U21s and you hinder their development.
Which leaves either Baggott or Humphreys.
Baggott has a new contract and KMc has hinted that Humphreys will be in the squad. |
Does the rule not apply until after the window shuts?
Unless I'm missing something incredibly obvious we didn't have a home grown player in the squad on Saturday and we had 9 subs. |  |
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| Club Developed Players on 10:04 - Sep 1 with 692 views | Bluemike31 |
Is it possible Barbrook makes the squad and all Four mentioned depart in One way or another ? | | | |
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| Club Developed Players on 10:06 - Sep 1 with 665 views | Horsham |
| Club Developed Players on 10:04 - Sep 1 by Bluemike31 |
Is it possible Barbrook makes the squad and all Four mentioned depart in One way or another ? |
Under 21 so he can’t be registered in the 25 I think. | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 10:07 - Sep 1 with 667 views | greyhound |
| Club Developed Players on 10:03 - Sep 1 by Garv |
Does the rule not apply until after the window shuts?
Unless I'm missing something incredibly obvious we didn't have a home grown player in the squad on Saturday and we had 9 subs. |
The 25 man squad submitted before the game would have had one minimum named in it. The 25 is fluid until the window shuts when it has to be locked in | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 10:07 - Sep 1 with 655 views | Len_Brennan |
The fact that McKenna publically stated that Woolfie wants out really suggests that there's no way bsck for him.
Humphreys can cover at left back, while Barbrook would be additional to te 25 man squad (& Sindre). [Post edited 1 Sep 10:08]
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| Club Developed Players on 10:08 - Sep 1 with 651 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Club Developed Players on 10:01 - Sep 1 by bsw72 |
One question - if you're naming a player in a bench of 9 just to get you to the 9, with no intention of playing them - why bother, may as well name 8 . . . [Post edited 1 Sep 10:01]
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To only name 8 subs would be an admission of failure. The sole purpose of developing players through the Academy and U21s is to have them ready to play in first team. | |
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| Club Developed Players on 10:09 - Sep 1 with 638 views | Horsham |
| Club Developed Players on 10:03 - Sep 1 by Garv |
Does the rule not apply until after the window shuts?
Unless I'm missing something incredibly obvious we didn't have a home grown player in the squad on Saturday and we had 9 subs. |
It’s related to the 25 registered players not the match day squad - unless you have no club developed players in the 25. Then you either have to name a Barbrook or another academy player on the bench or just go with 8. | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 10:11 - Sep 1 with 631 views | Markp68 |
I’d like it to be Wolfy but if he is as unhappy as it appears from socials posts and KM confirming he wants to leave then it’s best he’s sold. Keeping someone seemingly that unhappy around isn’t a good idea especially when it’s a player who probably has a big voice around the dressing room and could and I’m not for one minute saying he has, cause unrest within his friends in the squad. By 7pm tonight we need 25 players (+ young ones) who want to be here.
Thats my long winded way of saying we’ll probably keep Cam Humphreys | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 10:11 - Sep 1 with 628 views | farkenhell |
| Club Developed Players on 10:01 - Sep 1 by bsw72 |
One question - if you're naming a player in a bench of 9 just to get you to the 9, with no intention of playing them - why bother, may as well name 8 . . . [Post edited 1 Sep 10:01]
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Or on the other hand, put in someone from the U21s to give them some 1st team match day experience. | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 10:14 - Sep 1 with 606 views | bsw72 |
| Club Developed Players on 10:11 - Sep 1 by farkenhell |
Or on the other hand, put in someone from the U21s to give them some 1st team match day experience. |
Which is fine, as long as it doesn't stop their U21 development, but most PL2 fixtures are held on or next to 1st team match days . . . | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 10:16 - Sep 1 with 594 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Club Developed Players on 10:06 - Sep 1 by Horsham |
Under 21 so he can’t be registered in the 25 I think. |
It isn’t the 25 man squad it is match day squad. | |
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| Club Developed Players on 10:17 - Sep 1 with 587 views | BloomBlue |
| Club Developed Players on 10:01 - Sep 1 by bsw72 |
One question - if you're naming a player in a bench of 9 just to get you to the 9, with no intention of playing them - why bother, may as well name 8 . . . [Post edited 1 Sep 10:01]
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Precisely, its basically taking the plss, especially in the case of Wolf.
O'Shea is never going to be dropped, as he's captain, irrelevant of performance. KM also rarely replaces a CH during a game. You're basically saying, 'you will be named on the bench but you're chances of getting on is 1%'. But we will play you in the FA Cup.
At least with a midfielder they could come on more regularly as KM often changes those players. |  | | |
| Club Developed Players on 11:16 - Sep 1 with 384 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Club Developed Players on 10:17 - Sep 1 by BloomBlue |
Precisely, its basically taking the plss, especially in the case of Wolf.
O'Shea is never going to be dropped, as he's captain, irrelevant of performance. KM also rarely replaces a CH during a game. You're basically saying, 'you will be named on the bench but you're chances of getting on is 1%'. But we will play you in the FA Cup.
At least with a midfielder they could come on more regularly as KM often changes those players. |
I agree in general BUT it does remove cover for an unexpected injury.. A bit like having a goalkeeper on the bench - you very rarely need the option, so 99% of the time it consumes a place on the bench that is pointless.
Having 9 instead of 8 just adds a little extra cover, but 99 times out of 100 there is likely to be an outfield body on the bench that is never used | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 11:28 - Sep 1 with 340 views | DavoIPB |
| Club Developed Players on 11:16 - Sep 1 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I agree in general BUT it does remove cover for an unexpected injury.. A bit like having a goalkeeper on the bench - you very rarely need the option, so 99% of the time it consumes a place on the bench that is pointless.
Having 9 instead of 8 just adds a little extra cover, but 99 times out of 100 there is likely to be an outfield body on the bench that is never used |
Kipre is our defensive CB cover on the bench. | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 11:36 - Sep 1 with 323 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Club Developed Players on 11:28 - Sep 1 by DavoIPB |
Kipre is our defensive CB cover on the bench. |
I'm not talking about, nor did I mention a specific position.
I'm just saying it clearly and obviously reduces cover if you have one less on the bench. It maybe a 1 in 100 occurrence, but an expected injury can happen at any point. It could be a sub that you brought on, who then gets injured. e.g. Azon stars, Hirst comes on and is injured. With 9 rather than 8 on the bench, you're more likely to have been able to cover for the Hirst injury.
In practical terms it will rarely make a difference, but it's obvious that having additional people on the bench covers more eventualities / reduces risk. | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 11:38 - Sep 1 with 313 views | TheIpswichWay |
| Club Developed Players on 10:16 - Sep 1 by Pinewoodblue |
It isn’t the 25 man squad it is match day squad. |
It is the 25 man list. This is the section from the rules:
"each Club shall be required to nominate at least one Club Developed Player on either the Squad List, or on the Team Sheet for all League matches (including Play Off matches)".
So if we don't have any of Baggott, Humphreys, Woolfenden or Harry Clarke (I think he counts) in the 25 then we can only name 9 subs if one of them is someone like Barbrook who is too young to be counted in the 25. | | | |
| Club Developed Players on 11:58 - Sep 1 with 257 views | JeremiahBrown |
Maybe Flynn Downes is coming back? | | | |
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