| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:46 - Sep 5 with 1000 views | giant_stow |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:34 - Sep 5 by GlasgowBlue |
It's also tax avoidance Top Trumps from that particular poster, based on their political leanings.
We don't know the outcome of the Rayner case yet but if £40,000 tax has been intentionally avoided then the principle is the same, regardless of the amount involved.
If I rob somebody's home and steal £40,000 their possessions and somebody else robs somebody's home and steals £5 million it doesn't make me a better person. I'm still a thief. |
In your example, the I bet the bod stealing £5m gets less prison time |  |
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| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:55 - Sep 5 with 948 views | Blueschev |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:34 - Sep 5 by jayessess |
Streeting is one of the least popular frontbenchers with Labour members in poll after poll. Only way he succeeds Starmer is if they somehow engineer either a no-contest. |
I'd expect the election process will be changed yet again to try to engineer the result. They can't risk another Corbyn, and the membership are unlikely to swallow the lies of another Starmer. |  | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:59 - Sep 5 with 925 views | jayessess |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:55 - Sep 5 by Blueschev |
I'd expect the election process will be changed yet again to try to engineer the result. They can't risk another Corbyn, and the membership are unlikely to swallow the lies of another Starmer. |
The clique behind Streeting regard Gordon Brown to be "a trot". They wouldn't want to risk another Miliband let alone a Corbyn! |  |
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| Very good on Angela Rayner on 11:15 - Sep 5 with 864 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:59 - Sep 5 by jayessess |
The clique behind Streeting regard Gordon Brown to be "a trot". They wouldn't want to risk another Miliband let alone a Corbyn! |
Probably because neither could win an election. |  |
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| Very good on Angela Rayner on 11:19 - Sep 5 with 853 views | mellowblue |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 07:51 - Sep 5 by Dubtractor |
Im definitely not reform or tory, and think that this looks pretty poor from Rayner. Just to buck that trend a little!
You're right about the tribalism in politics, but it isnt just on here, it's the whole of society and it's dreadful. |
Ha, I'm definitely not Labour or anything left leaning but I think she has been naive and is desperately trying to sugarcoat it as best she can, which is standard human behaviour. I still think she will be replaced though as the story is not dying. |  | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 11:39 - Sep 5 with 811 views | Tonytown |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:34 - Sep 5 by GlasgowBlue |
It's also tax avoidance Top Trumps from that particular poster, based on their political leanings.
We don't know the outcome of the Rayner case yet but if £40,000 tax has been intentionally avoided then the principle is the same, regardless of the amount involved.
If I rob somebody's home and steal £40,000 their possessions and somebody else robs somebody's home and steals £5 million it doesn't make me a better person. I'm still a thief. |
I disagree with your view.
The £5m one was avoidance and received little news coverage.
This is more nuanced based on what we know so far & the amount involved is relevant.
Those two amounts sum up Tory and Labour perfectly too and of course you look to make them look the same. | | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 11:49 - Sep 5 with 764 views | Vaughan8 |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 08:56 - Sep 5 by itfcjoe |
I can see a situation along lines of:
JC: Do you own any other properties
AR: No [I have sold my share of previous house]
JC: Ok, we will work out your stamp duty on that
If AR hasn't disclosed this trust, which is likely her responsibility, it is one of those ones that falls between 2 stools......she doesn't own another property, she divested in that to buy this one as her main property but obviously needed to speak to someone about the details of trust owning a kids home etc
Feels an easy mistake to make, and can see why she has ended like this - but the pressure will become too much to bear whatever happens in ethics investigation.
Hopefully Housing can get a Minister as effective as she is currently as such an important department |
Wow. The excusing here is really reaching new levels.
If you had a complex (its not thayt complex) situation, wouldn't you explain this situation to people? Easy mistake to make? GIve over. She's not stupid.
Diane Abbott we might have believed it, but not Rayner.
BTW I've got no preference in political parties. | | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 11:55 - Sep 5 with 729 views | soupytwist |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 11:39 - Sep 5 by Tonytown |
I disagree with your view.
The £5m one was avoidance and received little news coverage.
This is more nuanced based on what we know so far & the amount involved is relevant.
Those two amounts sum up Tory and Labour perfectly too and of course you look to make them look the same. |
One of the reasons Zahawi's case received little news coverage is that he went to great legal lengths to keep it out of the public domain. Also Zahawi repeatedly said that he had paid his taxes in full even while negotiating a settlement with HMRC. |  | | |
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| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:05 - Sep 5 with 661 views | charlie_lynton |
Finally she's gone. Don't take so long next time! We await the criminal investigation into tax evasion... |  | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:14 - Sep 5 with 602 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:05 - Sep 5 by charlie_lynton |
Finally she's gone. Don't take so long next time! We await the criminal investigation into tax evasion... |
I think it's s shame. She has a lot to offer politics.
Mandelson came back pretty quickly so it's not the end of her career. | |
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| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:17 - Sep 5 with 574 views | mellowblue |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:05 - Sep 5 by charlie_lynton |
Finally she's gone. Don't take so long next time! We await the criminal investigation into tax evasion... |
Reeves will be quietly pleased, don't think Reeves and Rayner had a good relationship. | | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:30 - Sep 5 with 480 views | DJR |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 10:55 - Sep 5 by Blueschev |
I'd expect the election process will be changed yet again to try to engineer the result. They can't risk another Corbyn, and the membership are unlikely to swallow the lies of another Starmer. |
The election process, and the make-up of the Parliamentary party, has already been changed to ensure no possibility of another Corbyn being put to the members.
I think the only hope for Labour is Andy Burnham getting a seat and replacing Starmer before the election. But those in charge of the party don't even like Andy Burnham. [Post edited 5 Sep 12:32]
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| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:35 - Sep 5 with 436 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:05 - Sep 5 by charlie_lynton |
Finally she's gone. Don't take so long next time! We await the criminal investigation into tax evasion... |
Ridiculous comments. | | | |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:38 - Sep 5 with 425 views | Blueschev |
| Very good on Angela Rayner on 12:30 - Sep 5 by DJR |
The election process, and the make-up of the Parliamentary party, has already been changed to ensure no possibility of another Corbyn being put to the members.
I think the only hope for Labour is Andy Burnham getting a seat and replacing Starmer before the election. But those in charge of the party don't even like Andy Burnham. [Post edited 5 Sep 12:32]
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Andy Burnham would win a leadership contest comfortably now I'd expect, which is exactly why he won't be allowed anywhere near contesting one. The Stalinist control freaks run the party now, I don't see that changing. | | | |
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