| WBA 21/22 10:59 - Sep 9 with 5811 views | darkhorse28 |
They finished 10th in the championship that year, what is the problem we’re trying to solve, by signing Button, Palmer, Furlong, O’Shea, Townsend, Kipre?
It seems a bizarre strategy. Not terrible players, just seems a terrible strategy. They don’t align with our stated mission, and objectives.
We seem to sign EFL championship team of the year players in the prem, augmented with as many WBA players from a failed Championship side (when many of them were closer to their prime).
It’s so weak strategically, lacking in any kind of elite mentality and planning. No clear vision at all.
They didn’t even achieve close to where we say we want to go as a club, and it’s mostly recent, although we took Kyle Edwards that year, and many others since, Harper etc …, not great outcomes.
It’s four and half years since Mark took over.
That’s a long time, to end up with a strategy of talent ID, geared around failed WBA sides.
Theres been a lot of time and financial resource to build a recruitment network, that can at least move towards being elite.
Time will tell.., but if we got promoted…, wouldn’t we need an entire defence, as a minimum, Greaves too has gone backwards since he signed.
It seems an odd way to become elite.
None of them have an elite ceiling. To know that when you sign players. With our resources, seems so confused. It’s the networks we have, rather than building the networks we need.
The more money we’ve had…, the more our weaknesses off the pitch have been exposed. It seems as prevalent today as at any point.
We aren’t learning from any of our mistakes.
I don’t think our senior team know why we’ve failed. The PR is so confused.
‘We failed because we’re just a little league one club on a journey’
Ok…, but we spent £150 million and none of the team have ever played in league one, ever.
‘We are failing because of high player turnover’
Ok. But YOU decided to spend £150 million last year and replace most of the squad, and then you decided to do the same again this summer. That was a choice, mostly.
Sorry. But staegjcalky. We haven’t got a clue what we are doing.
And it start with NO agency, NO accountability, NO scrutiny, and no need to own their mistakes.
Ashton can say anything at this point, and a small element of nodding dogs will parrot him.
WBA 2022/22 - a poor team…, would be much poorer now too, the league isn’t easier, and that’s our solution.
I guess the problem is…, what players are in my address book, and can be persuaded to sign.
It’s not what Brighton Bournemouth, Fulham, Wolves Brentford are doing is it.
Unless they just have a better address book. |  | | |  |
| WBA 21/22 on 17:39 - Sep 9 with 1669 views | nrb1985 |
| WBA 21/22 on 17:35 - Sep 9 by muccletonjoe |
Well we quite clearly haven't got going yet, but this friday we are playing against a side who that phrase applies to even more than itfc.
So while I am far from happy with manager, formation, tactics or signings , I am prepared to watch this game for clear signs of improvement.
If it doesn't appear , I think it will take a totally brainwashed optimist to still be saying trust the process. |
"So while I am far from happy with manager, formation, tactics or signings , I am prepared to watch this game for clear signs of improvement£
Phew, that's a weight off my mind. And Ashton's too I'm sure. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 18:51 - Sep 9 with 1575 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Usually your stuff is hysterical glass empty and smashed nonsense, but I'll agree with you here, there is no clear strategy it's making up the plan as you go along and when all's said and done it's going to look like a money was pissed up the wall because the club was unprepared for a meteric rose.
Got to hope that the money spent improving the clubs infrasctrure, facilities and networks is where the real progress will be made to have a crack at establishing Town as a PL club in the next few years. |  | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 19:24 - Sep 9 with 1545 views | TheBoyBlue |
Yes, Ashton and McKenna have failed here. The last four years have been an utter shambles. | |
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| WBA 21/22 on 19:28 - Sep 9 with 1542 views | vilanovablue |
Same players that gave us a lesson in our promotion season. |  | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 19:41 - Sep 9 with 1503 views | Radlett_blue |
| WBA 21/22 on 17:35 - Sep 9 by muccletonjoe |
Well we quite clearly haven't got going yet, but this friday we are playing against a side who that phrase applies to even more than itfc.
So while I am far from happy with manager, formation, tactics or signings , I am prepared to watch this game for clear signs of improvement.
If it doesn't appear , I think it will take a totally brainwashed optimist to still be saying trust the process. |
Hmm...the same applied before the home game with struggling Derby & it took a late penalty for us to draw. |  |
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| WBA 21/22 on 20:13 - Sep 9 with 1468 views | waveneyblue |
| WBA 21/22 on 17:35 - Sep 9 by muccletonjoe |
Well we quite clearly haven't got going yet, but this friday we are playing against a side who that phrase applies to even more than itfc.
So while I am far from happy with manager, formation, tactics or signings , I am prepared to watch this game for clear signs of improvement.
If it doesn't appear , I think it will take a totally brainwashed optimist to still be saying trust the process. |
Thats big of you, being prepared to watch your team play.
Im sure the club will send you a voucher or something to thank you for your support. |  | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 23:09 - Sep 9 with 1339 views | pointofblue |
I think the big issue is the emotional connection has been lost between the players and fans. Broadhead, Burgess, Chaplin, Luongo, Morsy, at a stretch Woolfenden - the bulk of the double promotion squad gone due to big money signings joining last year and flattering to deceive. I do think that's why McKenna wanted to keep the majority around - to keep that link to 22/23 and 23/24, that bond which now almost has to be built from scratch, with just Davis and Hirst remaining as starters.
I thought the atmosphere was starting to turn against Portman Road against Derby. The penalty could be a turning point. But patience will be much thinner if the highly paid arrivals cannot at least match the success of the group who went before. | |
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| WBA 21/22 on 23:19 - Sep 9 with 1328 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| WBA 21/22 on 23:09 - Sep 9 by pointofblue |
I think the big issue is the emotional connection has been lost between the players and fans. Broadhead, Burgess, Chaplin, Luongo, Morsy, at a stretch Woolfenden - the bulk of the double promotion squad gone due to big money signings joining last year and flattering to deceive. I do think that's why McKenna wanted to keep the majority around - to keep that link to 22/23 and 23/24, that bond which now almost has to be built from scratch, with just Davis and Hirst remaining as starters.
I thought the atmosphere was starting to turn against Portman Road against Derby. The penalty could be a turning point. But patience will be much thinner if the highly paid arrivals cannot at least match the success of the group who went before. |
And when are people going to realise that this “emotional connection” was nothing more than the effect of the euphoria created from winning most weeks. Then, surprise surprise, when we have a period of rarely winning, the euphoria evaporates, and with it any emotional connection.
If this squad goes on to win the majority of the remaining games, and we gain promotion, all of a sudden this ethereal emotional connection will once again re-emerge.
To be honest, it’s all really rather shallow. | | | |
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| WBA 21/22 on 09:01 - Sep 10 with 1077 views | Radlett_blue |
| WBA 21/22 on 23:19 - Sep 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
And when are people going to realise that this “emotional connection” was nothing more than the effect of the euphoria created from winning most weeks. Then, surprise surprise, when we have a period of rarely winning, the euphoria evaporates, and with it any emotional connection.
If this squad goes on to win the majority of the remaining games, and we gain promotion, all of a sudden this ethereal emotional connection will once again re-emerge.
To be honest, it’s all really rather shallow. |
Indeed. Does "team spirit" help create a run of form, or is it actually the run of form which is the crucial ingredient & everything else follows from that? [Post edited 10 Sep 9:01]
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| WBA 21/22 on 12:29 - Sep 10 with 923 views | dirtyboy |
| WBA 21/22 on 18:51 - Sep 9 by BouncebackIpswich |
Usually your stuff is hysterical glass empty and smashed nonsense, but I'll agree with you here, there is no clear strategy it's making up the plan as you go along and when all's said and done it's going to look like a money was pissed up the wall because the club was unprepared for a meteric rose.
Got to hope that the money spent improving the clubs infrasctrure, facilities and networks is where the real progress will be made to have a crack at establishing Town as a PL club in the next few years. |
You say no clear strategy, but how do we know that?
I agree that whatever we did, didn't work out particularly brilliantly, but to say there was no strategy, is prety disingenous to what seems a pretty organised club at the moment. We wouldn't have had two promotions without some degree of a plan.
The strategy of "young hungry champ" players or however you want to dress it hasn't been stellar, but it was a strategy.
Key thing here is to learn from it, adapt and go again. |  | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 12:43 - Sep 10 with 912 views | Everydayblue |
| WBA 21/22 on 12:29 - Sep 10 by dirtyboy |
You say no clear strategy, but how do we know that?
I agree that whatever we did, didn't work out particularly brilliantly, but to say there was no strategy, is prety disingenous to what seems a pretty organised club at the moment. We wouldn't have had two promotions without some degree of a plan.
The strategy of "young hungry champ" players or however you want to dress it hasn't been stellar, but it was a strategy.
Key thing here is to learn from it, adapt and go again. |
Exactly this.... | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 13:25 - Sep 10 with 861 views | pointofblue |
| WBA 21/22 on 23:19 - Sep 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
And when are people going to realise that this “emotional connection” was nothing more than the effect of the euphoria created from winning most weeks. Then, surprise surprise, when we have a period of rarely winning, the euphoria evaporates, and with it any emotional connection.
If this squad goes on to win the majority of the remaining games, and we gain promotion, all of a sudden this ethereal emotional connection will once again re-emerge.
To be honest, it’s all really rather shallow. |
I don't think the emotional connection would have been lost if the double promotion team had been given a chance at top level, because they would have forever been remembered for what they did.
The fans would have no doubt blamed McKenna and Ashton for not strengthening though! | |
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| WBA 21/22 on 13:43 - Sep 10 with 836 views | jayessess |
None of Button, Townsend, Kipre or Furlong make our strongest eleven. What sort of pedigree should a Championship club be expecting for their squad players? |  |
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| WBA 21/22 on 15:38 - Sep 10 with 729 views | Radlett_blue |
| WBA 21/22 on 13:25 - Sep 10 by pointofblue |
I don't think the emotional connection would have been lost if the double promotion team had been given a chance at top level, because they would have forever been remembered for what they did.
The fans would have no doubt blamed McKenna and Ashton for not strengthening though! |
The idea that Town would have done better last season by simply sticking with the team who got us promoted because the togetherness & team spirit would have helped us so much is perverse.
2 of the players we bought have been sold to PL clubs for substantial fees.
The jury is still out as to how many of the rash of 2024 signings were better than what we had. | |
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| WBA 21/22 on 17:46 - Sep 10 with 606 views | DavoIPB |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:21 - Sep 9 by darkhorse28 |
How about the finishing places of their entire careers? One of the players is 36, two others are 30.
Tell me when any of them ever looked like the quality to establish themselves in the premier league? …, at the level it is today.
It’s light years ahead of when they proved they weren’t good enough.
Is it a group that can compete with our legacy defence?
Leif Butgess Wolf Tuenzabe
Townsend O’Shea Kipre Furlong - you don’t have to have Button in goal.
Not a lot in it is there…, two good EFL groups, not a single player that isn’t at or past his peak. Not one…, and nowhere near playing at the level above. Wolf probably at his age and OShea are the only ones who might improve.
We did spend £200 million on improving this squad.
We haven’t improved the defence at all have we…, that hasn’t moved us 1% forwards in my opinion. |
Legacy defence? What, what did I just read. Tuanzebe prem level defender others not. Our defence in championship last time was really poor, we gave away the most goals of any team to finish in the automatic promotion slots. Our current centre back pairing has way better stats. Watch some of the goals we conceded in the championship last time, they were truly awful. We had to upgrade our defence and we have done that (apart from tuanzebe).
Everybody giving Grieves a hard time but his stats show he is a much better ball carrier and has better crosses than wolf and burgess. O'Shea has a better long pass accuracy than wolf as well. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 18:01 - Sep 10 with 599 views | Radlett_blue |
| WBA 21/22 on 17:46 - Sep 10 by DavoIPB |
Legacy defence? What, what did I just read. Tuanzebe prem level defender others not. Our defence in championship last time was really poor, we gave away the most goals of any team to finish in the automatic promotion slots. Our current centre back pairing has way better stats. Watch some of the goals we conceded in the championship last time, they were truly awful. We had to upgrade our defence and we have done that (apart from tuanzebe).
Everybody giving Grieves a hard time but his stats show he is a much better ball carrier and has better crosses than wolf and burgess. O'Shea has a better long pass accuracy than wolf as well. |
All the action Tuanzebe has seen so far this season is 45 minutes from the bench in a League Cup game. He hasn't even made the bench in a PL game for Burnley so he is at best a squad filler. | |
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| WBA 21/22 on 10:35 - Sep 11 with 272 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:23 - Sep 9 by waveneyblue |
I will be honest, I looked who the poster was and ignored it. Every single thing has a negative spin. Why suddenly post about West Brom players 9 days after the end of the transfer window.
Weird obsessive behaviour |
Why post about WBA after the window?
What difference does the window make to how many WBA players we’ e already signed…, it’s not even this window. Harper, Edwards.
Shouldn’t we all be concerned with the quality of players we’ve spent £200 million on and they make up almost a quarter of our squad.
Kind of instructive if where we are at recruitment wise, and where we are going.
You don’t agree…, why not make your point instead of personal attacks?
Is it because suggesting this is what elite elite looks like, and is a roadmap and pathway to compete with Brighton, Bournemouth Brentford’s etc is too difficult?
Do you think this is the right strategy for our goals, yes or no, our longer term goals. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 10:44 - Sep 11 with 251 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:39 - Sep 9 by HighgateBlue |
Button isn't going to cause us to succeed or fail. I doubt he'll play. I doubt anyone will complain about that.
Palmer seems like a steady enough Eddie at this level. Our fumbles with goalkeepers in the last couple of years are well known. I think Kieran probably wanted stability and continuity, and if we go back up, he'll surely sign a quality replacement. Or try to.
Furlong - no idea how much he'll play. Let's judge him when he's actually played. Beyond odd to have 4 RBs and one LB, but there we are. The proof of the pudding and all that...
O'Shea - surely at least decent at this level. Not the very greatest start by him this season but you can't complain about his quality at this level, I don't think. My slight gripe at CB is losing Burgess, but that's unrelated to O'Shea.
Townsend - he wasn't previously an injury liability, he's had a bad one, it's just unfortunate. I thought he'd looked really good when he played. Had he been fit, and had Leif been injured or sold for megabucks, I would have no qualms about Townsend being our starting left back. I think he deserves to be judged on what we've seen, and I judge him positively.
Kipre will clearly not be first choice. It's a shame to have lost Burgess and Woolfy, but there we go, and if our biggest problem is the quality of our back up defenders then I will be pleasantly surprised with this season. Back up defenders in this division are not going to be elite, no matter whether they've played for WBA before or not.
We're not holding it against Nunez that he came from Norwich, so let's not hold it against any of these lads where they came from. It's a weird coincidence, granted, but let's judge them on what we see.
So far, it's hard to see an improvement since 16 months ago, for the many millions spent, but there's half a team that we've not seen really anything of yet, Those 4 league games are not going to come back, and Sargent has more goals than we have points. It's a bad start, there's no two ways about it. But let's allow Kieran a re-set and judge him on what comes next. This is when he earns his money. |
Can’t disagree with any of that, they’re good players at this level, no improvement left, but cooperative at this level.
It’s not a weird coincidence though, it’s by design.
Clearly Ashton and O’Leary working together for a decade or so at WNA is a huge factor.
Ashton now he’s taken over, clearly uses it as a crutch, when he’s struggling.
The point is. That as a panic fall back, WBA defenders form that period could be ok, but they aren’t taking us anywhere near our long term objectives, and it’s poor vision, poor planning, poor strategy and poor implementation, when we rely on that network.
It’s Edwards, Harper and long line of ‘lazy’ signings to fill gaps.
That’s a big chunk of our squad. We likely agree can’t deliver our long term mission and goals.
O’Shea and Townsend are good players, they aren’t premier league either, and O’sshea aside, we know this when we sign them.
Yes…, a few players at this level.., who might help promotion, but won’t be good enough…, hardly a crime when so few players at this level now, have that ceiling…., but this is our squad.
One young player who might have a Prem ceiling, and we only say that because we haven’t actually seen him play.
It’s not progress is it. It’s so regressive.
Mick was 10th in this league…, and he spent nky a penny. Im not sure our £200 million version, playing nicer football (at times) finish any higher than 10th.
That would be so damning on a real generational opportunity.
£200 million and our defence won’t stand out at this level. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 10:53 - Sep 11 with 231 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 12:09 - Sep 9 by textbackup |
I reckon, and forgive me I didn’t read it all, but our manager seems decent at improving players.
So if they are a player worthy a 10th place finish under manager X, under KM they could be a top 3 player, especially looking at the fire power ahead of them.
Just a thought |
We can measure that.
Chaplin, Morsy, etc playing way below their career standard in league one, Massimo is think played his best football under KM. Burgess maybe. Leif is young, and was excellent, but inky at a low level, he was awful last year defensively, and that’s 3 years with KM.
Greaves, Clarke, Phillips, Philogene, Sammie…., plus others all regressed massively under KM last year, but at off their levels for 12 months and counting.
You can’t have it both ways.
Burns, another I’d say at his best under KM.
There’s a theme though, clearly KM can coach, but players in league one, way too good for that level, played well, shock horror.
Even Hutchinson regressed last year.
Our £150 million group. You don’t think other managers in the world, elite managers would have got more from them?
Hull and Sunderland got more from Clarke and Philogene and greaves…, England got more from Phillips.
Perera more from a group at Wolves with no more talent.
Several Leiscter and Southampton managers got more in the same season…, we had the worst season in our history, with the biggest investment in our history, and just ONE league one legacy player.
So exactly who is accountable, if not the manager and the CEO?
The players were miles off their best…, all of them…, it was and remains a theme.
500 coaching sessions .., will it click at 501?
It’s a bizarre narrative, to ignite results for 44 games and focus on our league one success, a level we’ve never been at as a club.
It’s such a lack of ambition, and desire to be better than this.
Mick was 10th on average in this league…, and he didn’t spend a penny…., how is £200 million spent, to be worse, progress? | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:15 - Sep 11 with 198 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 15:25 - Sep 9 by Everydayblue |
Bit of both, imo.... We're not exactly shipping goals atm.. But we aren't keeping clean sheets either. But I don't think it's down to individuals ability. Just forging relationships on the pitch. And gaining back that winning feeling.
I'm happy with our squad. Don't see the point in OP trying to find fault in our recruitment.
We haven't got going yet. That's obvious.
Ultimately, we'll be judged on whether we get promoted in one way or another.
The additions of Akpom, Azon, Egeli and Nunez, should give us more of a goal threat, creativity and fresh enthusiasm in the final third imo.
And the leadership group can kick on now. No longer in the shadow of Morsy and the Morsy disciples.
I'm looking forward to it all coming into fruition.. And when it does, be that 1 game, 3 games time or 5 games time.. We'll go on a juggernaut run.. |
Agree completely we’ve signed some quality, we’ve soent £200 million in just over a year, that’s a lot.
Lots to be positive about in some of the signings…, but we’ll be judged on value. Quality against cost.
And that’s the point…., it looks really poor in defence certainly. We aren’t doing this better than Brentford, Wolves, Brighton, Bournemouth, even at the respective levels. We are WAY off IF we want to compete at that level. In my opinion.
Your point on leadership fascinated me…, we seem the channel with Chaplin, Burgess, Morsy specifically. And Massimo too.
You can’t coach those qualities.
Who are the current leadership group, Greaves, Young, OShea…., I’m sorry but Youngbaside and he’s 40! …., that looks a monumental downgrade.
The notion that that legacy group were such fearless leaders was holding people back…, the opposite is true, they lifted everything and everyone around them.
We can already measure this group.
We had a WHOLE season that people conveniently want to pretend didn’t happen. How did we progress in terms of leadership, desire, motivation?
Did we improve from the early weeks, where we lost, but competed like lions, we didn’t …, we got worse, and worse, and worse…, and then even worse.
We didn’t even show up and compete in the end.., and a poor West Ham last day summed us up…, pathetic…, we did better and competed harder in the EFL when we played premier league teams, than we did after a full year at that level.
You will need to face the elephant in the room…, that McKenna wasn’t anywhere near what you convinced yourself.
Maybe not this year…, but the long term strategy, and many other key elements of management are a million miles away from elite.., Mick was 10th on average…, and spent nothing.
We’ll be 6th to 8th if we are lucky.., and they’ll be even more excuses for apologists.
But we spent more than most of the premier league to be here…, £200 million.
So no. A WBA obsession isn’t taking us forwards relative to where we should want to be…, but established in the premier league.., and we can’t keep buying and selling 15 players every window…, even if it does buy our CEO and manager more time!!
It’s killing our long term prospect. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:20 - Sep 11 with 186 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 17:35 - Sep 9 by muccletonjoe |
Well we quite clearly haven't got going yet, but this friday we are playing against a side who that phrase applies to even more than itfc.
So while I am far from happy with manager, formation, tactics or signings , I am prepared to watch this game for clear signs of improvement.
If it doesn't appear , I think it will take a totally brainwashed optimist to still be saying trust the process. |
Agree, some time and patience required, but the £200 million and massive rotations every window, at this point look like panic to buy time for Mark and KM.
That risk out long term future…, there wasn’t any improvement last year, we got worse the longer the group were together, by any metric.
They’ve bought themselves more time, by risking our entire future with such huge squad rotations over and over.
Let’s give it a month or so though…, so many genuinely elite managers out of work, but I have zero faith in Gamechanger, they aren’t football people, and Mark is Mark…, patchy.
Excited to see some of the new forward players though, and Nunez too…, some good players in there, really no excuses quality wise, but I’m not convinced it’ll ever be a team. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:26 - Sep 11 with 174 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 18:51 - Sep 9 by BouncebackIpswich |
Usually your stuff is hysterical glass empty and smashed nonsense, but I'll agree with you here, there is no clear strategy it's making up the plan as you go along and when all's said and done it's going to look like a money was pissed up the wall because the club was unprepared for a meteric rose.
Got to hope that the money spent improving the clubs infrasctrure, facilities and networks is where the real progress will be made to have a crack at establishing Town as a PL club in the next few years. |
I’m genuinely an optimist, we have some cracking quality at this level.
I just happened to start posting after our worst ever season for points, at its level.
I also see the strategy (lack of) and it’s easy to see the long term decline ‘loading’ with the money spent, if we don’t go up …, got the t-shirt on 22 long years, so it’s frustrating to see blind emotional support for things that are clearly failing…, not results either, but vision, strategy, planning, relative to others.
We don’t have cost in a vacuum…, we have to measure against other clubs, and some many are doing so much better than us, and that includes the coaching too.
We can still have a great season though, it’s a hell of a squad at this level, there’s a great team in there, if we get the leadership and motivation right, there’s management effectively, we can really well in the EFL I’m sure. | | | |
| WBA 21/22 on 11:36 - Sep 11 with 142 views | darkhorse28 |
| WBA 21/22 on 23:19 - Sep 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
And when are people going to realise that this “emotional connection” was nothing more than the effect of the euphoria created from winning most weeks. Then, surprise surprise, when we have a period of rarely winning, the euphoria evaporates, and with it any emotional connection.
If this squad goes on to win the majority of the remaining games, and we gain promotion, all of a sudden this ethereal emotional connection will once again re-emerge.
To be honest, it’s all really rather shallow. |
We didn’t win in 23/24 with quality. I can’t remember many games where we ‘bossed’ anyone.
A combination of sheer bloody minded will to win, and belief, and at times, we should accept, luck and the rub of the green. QOR away they hit the inside of both posts, we were 2% better than most teams in the league…, miles behind Leeds Leicester and Southampton for quality - but mikes ahead of them for desire, belief and sheer will to get the job done.
Maybe the best I’ve seen us in some of those areas.
We have far more quality…., we’ve lost completely the desire, belief, will and sheer bloody minded togetherness.
You don’t coach that. You don’t get it spending £200 million…., yes you can build it and develop it in a group, but the raw ingredients need to be there…, many a quality side doesn’t make it.., ask Leeds and Southampton!
This group didn’t have it last year…, we got worse…, and worse.., and worse still…, and that’s continued.
That doesn’t come quickly either…, even our legacy leaders…, took them a year.., people forget Mckenan was 12th in league one the same position that got cook the sack.
He didn’t sign or build that group…, but he did give them everything they needed to flourish.., coaching, quality around them.
Maybe Nunez. Young, OShea …, but Greaves, Clarke, Philogene, Johnson, and many more they don’t have the desire.
Morsy would take them out the back…, and they’d get straightened.
Some of this group need that.
McKenna the quietly spoken motivator but only when things are good, doesn’t have that skill, he just doesn’t. He can’t do it.
So who will?
I don’t see OShea either…, and nobody else has that authority because they’ve been here two seconds.
That I think a 40 year old is our best leader, says it all.
Ashton and McKenna didn’t know what the success was built on …, lots of factors…, but KM and Ashton thought it was 100% his coaching…., it never was.., that was only ever one factor, and the leadership within the group…., that was HUGE. | | | |
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