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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah 20:24 - Sep 10 with 166341 viewsElderGrizzly

Was speaking at a University event and appears to have been shot (from distance) in the neck.

And actually shot, not the Donald Trump kind.

Horrific whatever your political views and has no place in politics

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:05 - Sep 19 with 3840 viewsGlasgowBlue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 12:27 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile

No, I wouldn't be chasing someone around the board about something so minor.

We're not talking about the full spectrum of Philosophy, so whether I did a module or a full degree is incosequential. Studying logical fallacies would be a small part of any course, whether it were a full degree on philosophy or a module on philosophy. There is no degree dedicated solely to the study of logical fallacies, which is what we were discussing.

Funnily enough, this is another example of a straw man argument.

And I'm not surprised to see the 'new improved' Glassers up-arrowing you on something so pathetic and minor.

Kindly stop being a dick and a frightful bore.


I actually up arrowed the ost for this part.

"for what it's worth i remember you doing your degree and if i recall correctly you did it as a mature student. that is very much the hard way to do it and it is genuinely very impressive".

My Mrs is in her second year at uni doing a Politics degree as a mature student at the age of 58, so I appreciate the hard work and sacrifice mature students put themselves through.

I wish I hadn't bothered now.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:02 - Sep 19 with 3635 viewslowhouseblue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 12:27 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile

No, I wouldn't be chasing someone around the board about something so minor.

We're not talking about the full spectrum of Philosophy, so whether I did a module or a full degree is incosequential. Studying logical fallacies would be a small part of any course, whether it were a full degree on philosophy or a module on philosophy. There is no degree dedicated solely to the study of logical fallacies, which is what we were discussing.

Funnily enough, this is another example of a straw man argument.

And I'm not surprised to see the 'new improved' Glassers up-arrowing you on something so pathetic and minor.

Kindly stop being a dick and a frightful bore.


a module on logical thinking is not a degree in philosophy. pretending it is, and that you as good as have the latter, is really not great.

i'm guessing the module on developing self-awareness wasn't compulsory however.

anyway, what's the point.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:17 - Sep 19 with 3510 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:05 - Sep 19 by GlasgowBlue

I actually up arrowed the ost for this part.

"for what it's worth i remember you doing your degree and if i recall correctly you did it as a mature student. that is very much the hard way to do it and it is genuinely very impressive".

My Mrs is in her second year at uni doing a Politics degree as a mature student at the age of 58, so I appreciate the hard work and sacrifice mature students put themselves through.

I wish I hadn't bothered now.


Given your propensity to come into threads and have a pop at me (which you've done several times since you've been back) you might well forgive me for not reading your mind.

But if it was in any way genuine, then I appreciate it.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:23 - Sep 19 with 3480 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 14:02 - Sep 19 by lowhouseblue

a module on logical thinking is not a degree in philosophy. pretending it is, and that you as good as have the latter, is really not great.

i'm guessing the module on developing self-awareness wasn't compulsory however.

anyway, what's the point.


I've never said a module on logical thinking is a degree in philosophy, nor have I remotely pretended it was.

The point I was making, if you can remember back that far, was that I tend to forget some people don't know about the logical fallacies, and I only did because of going to uni. I was having empathy with other members of the board, and wasn't remotely pretending anything.

The irony of your self-awareness comment is not lost on me.

Like many others who have lost the will to live trying to debate your bad faith tactics, I will now put you on ignore. I wonder if your own self-awareness will help you reflect on why so many are doing so. A clue: it's not because you're so brilliant.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:37 - Sep 19 with 3409 viewslowhouseblue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:23 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile

I've never said a module on logical thinking is a degree in philosophy, nor have I remotely pretended it was.

The point I was making, if you can remember back that far, was that I tend to forget some people don't know about the logical fallacies, and I only did because of going to uni. I was having empathy with other members of the board, and wasn't remotely pretending anything.

The irony of your self-awareness comment is not lost on me.

Like many others who have lost the will to live trying to debate your bad faith tactics, I will now put you on ignore. I wonder if your own self-awareness will help you reflect on why so many are doing so. A clue: it's not because you're so brilliant.


perhaps before you refer to people's bad faith you might edit "what I covered in my philosophy degree".

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:56 - Sep 19 with 3396 viewsGlasgowBlue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:17 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile

Given your propensity to come into threads and have a pop at me (which you've done several times since you've been back) you might well forgive me for not reading your mind.

But if it was in any way genuine, then I appreciate it.


Easier just to div list you dollers. Can't be bothered with somebody who micro analyses the thought process between up or down arrows.
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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:04 - Sep 19 with 3359 viewsbuoyant

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:17 - Sep 19 by The_Flashing_Smile

Given your propensity to come into threads and have a pop at me (which you've done several times since you've been back) you might well forgive me for not reading your mind.

But if it was in any way genuine, then I appreciate it.


A bit of advice.

1. Quit arguing with a pedant

2. When you get a compliment from an old adversary. Accept it graciously.

UTT

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:34 - Sep 19 with 3212 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:56 - Sep 19 by GlasgowBlue

Easier just to div list you dollers. Can't be bothered with somebody who micro analyses the thought process between up or down arrows.
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Suit yourself. Given that most of Lowers' post was attacking me, it's hardly surprising I didn't know you were up-arrowing the tiny good bit.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 17:36 - Sep 19 with 3194 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 16:04 - Sep 19 by buoyant

A bit of advice.

1. Quit arguing with a pedant

2. When you get a compliment from an old adversary. Accept it graciously.


I said I appreciate it. Before that I had no idea, and why would I?

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:50 - Sep 21 with 2184 viewsElderGrizzly

Oklahoma taking the Charlie Kirk ‘mourning’ to another level.

“Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma introduced legislation this week that would require every public university in the state to construct “a Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza”, with a statue of the assassinated Republican activist and a sign calling him a “modern civil rights leader”, or pay monthly fines.

Each plaza must also include “permanent signage commemorating Charlie Kirk’s courage and faith and explaining the significance of Charlie Kirk as a voice of a generation, modern civil rights leader, vocal Christian, martyr for truth and faith, and free speech advocate”.
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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:54 - Sep 21 with 2156 viewsvapour_trail

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:50 - Sep 21 by ElderGrizzly

Oklahoma taking the Charlie Kirk ‘mourning’ to another level.

“Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma introduced legislation this week that would require every public university in the state to construct “a Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza”, with a statue of the assassinated Republican activist and a sign calling him a “modern civil rights leader”, or pay monthly fines.

Each plaza must also include “permanent signage commemorating Charlie Kirk’s courage and faith and explaining the significance of Charlie Kirk as a voice of a generation, modern civil rights leader, vocal Christian, martyr for truth and faith, and free speech advocate”.


Is this for real?

That would be fcking mental.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:43 - Sep 21 with 2025 viewsElderGrizzly

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:54 - Sep 21 by vapour_trail

Is this for real?

That would be fcking mental.


Yep 100% real.

Trump and his cabinet have just landed in Arizona for the memorial service too.
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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:48 - Sep 21 with 2001 viewsJ2BLUE

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:50 - Sep 21 by ElderGrizzly

Oklahoma taking the Charlie Kirk ‘mourning’ to another level.

“Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma introduced legislation this week that would require every public university in the state to construct “a Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza”, with a statue of the assassinated Republican activist and a sign calling him a “modern civil rights leader”, or pay monthly fines.

Each plaza must also include “permanent signage commemorating Charlie Kirk’s courage and faith and explaining the significance of Charlie Kirk as a voice of a generation, modern civil rights leader, vocal Christian, martyr for truth and faith, and free speech advocate”.


We're an alien reality show aren't we...they're not just screwing with us to see how long it takes us to realise.

That is crazy.

Truly impaired.
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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:51 - Sep 21 with 1988 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:50 - Sep 21 by ElderGrizzly

Oklahoma taking the Charlie Kirk ‘mourning’ to another level.

“Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma introduced legislation this week that would require every public university in the state to construct “a Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza”, with a statue of the assassinated Republican activist and a sign calling him a “modern civil rights leader”, or pay monthly fines.

Each plaza must also include “permanent signage commemorating Charlie Kirk’s courage and faith and explaining the significance of Charlie Kirk as a voice of a generation, modern civil rights leader, vocal Christian, martyr for truth and faith, and free speech advocate”.


Jesus wept. Sad he died for his family. But for the rest of us to be forced into caring.. weird.

Think people are well within their rights to say he was a tit and had some tit views. The idea that they’d be cancelled for saying it (the tv bloke) or the like is somewhat concerning

But hey Americans are mental innit so why are we shocked

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:55 - Sep 21 with 1960 viewsGlasgowBlue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 20:50 - Sep 21 by ElderGrizzly

Oklahoma taking the Charlie Kirk ‘mourning’ to another level.

“Republican lawmakers in Oklahoma introduced legislation this week that would require every public university in the state to construct “a Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza”, with a statue of the assassinated Republican activist and a sign calling him a “modern civil rights leader”, or pay monthly fines.

Each plaza must also include “permanent signage commemorating Charlie Kirk’s courage and faith and explaining the significance of Charlie Kirk as a voice of a generation, modern civil rights leader, vocal Christian, martyr for truth and faith, and free speech advocate”.


Has that passed? Last I saw it was one far right MAGA representative called Shane Jett who had proposed the bill.

Your post suggests this bill has passed, which I can't find.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 02:10 - Sep 22 with 1655 viewsJoey_Joe_Joe_Junior

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:55 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue

Has that passed? Last I saw it was one far right MAGA representative called Shane Jett who had proposed the bill.

Your post suggests this bill has passed, which I can't find.


No it hasn’t, it’s being filed but won’t be taken up by the legislature until it reconvenes in Oklahoma next February.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:20 - Sep 22 with 1188 viewsSwansea_Blue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 02:10 - Sep 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior

No it hasn’t, it’s being filed but won’t be taken up by the legislature until it reconvenes in Oklahoma next February.


Yep https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1187/id/3269906

Absolutely crackers and Orwellian nonetheless.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:27 - Sep 22 with 1170 viewsElderGrizzly

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:55 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue

Has that passed? Last I saw it was one far right MAGA representative called Shane Jett who had proposed the bill.

Your post suggests this bill has passed, which I can't find.


Introduced does not mean passed in US legal terms. Never suggested it had.

It clearly will though given the political make-up of the state.

Another GOP politician has proposed a statue in the US Capitol as a monument to free speech.
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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:44 - Sep 22 with 1145 viewsSwansea_Blue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 21:51 - Sep 21 by The_Romford_Blue

Jesus wept. Sad he died for his family. But for the rest of us to be forced into caring.. weird.

Think people are well within their rights to say he was a tit and had some tit views. The idea that they’d be cancelled for saying it (the tv bloke) or the like is somewhat concerning

But hey Americans are mental innit so why are we shocked


It can’t really be dismissed as typical American differences. These people have ratcheted up the dial of authoritarianism to 11. They’re doing things like threatening and even detaining elected public officials who dare to question them; targeting lawyers who have ruled against them; deploying the military to police the public. These are all full on attacks on their constitutional democracy.

And yes, the propaganda machine is also in full swing as we’ve seen from the attacks on the late night show hosts and now this performative martyrdom of one of their own.

It’s somewhat concerning indeed.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 11:32 - Sep 22 with 978 viewsElderGrizzly

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:44 - Sep 22 by Swansea_Blue

It can’t really be dismissed as typical American differences. These people have ratcheted up the dial of authoritarianism to 11. They’re doing things like threatening and even detaining elected public officials who dare to question them; targeting lawyers who have ruled against them; deploying the military to police the public. These are all full on attacks on their constitutional democracy.

And yes, the propaganda machine is also in full swing as we’ve seen from the attacks on the late night show hosts and now this performative martyrdom of one of their own.

It’s somewhat concerning indeed.


Trump said yesterday:



Amazing how Cruz, Miller, Hegseth and Noem all had 'final messages' from Kirk that supported their authoritarian power grabs.

Of course, one of Kirk's actual final validated video messages was "Release the Epstein Files"
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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 11:34 - Sep 22 with 966 viewsGlasgowBlue

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 11:32 - Sep 22 by ElderGrizzly

Trump said yesterday:



Amazing how Cruz, Miller, Hegseth and Noem all had 'final messages' from Kirk that supported their authoritarian power grabs.

Of course, one of Kirk's actual final validated video messages was "Release the Epstein Files"
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It's their version of Del Boy's mum's last words on her death bed.

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 11:38 - Sep 22 with 953 viewspositivity

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 09:27 - Sep 22 by ElderGrizzly

Introduced does not mean passed in US legal terms. Never suggested it had.

It clearly will though given the political make-up of the state.

Another GOP politician has proposed a statue in the US Capitol as a monument to free speech.


with long sentences for anyone who complains about the statue to free speech?

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:40 - Sep 22 with 753 viewsElderGrizzly

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 11:34 - Sep 22 by GlasgowBlue

It's their version of Del Boy's mum's last words on her death bed.


But remember don’t call them fascists

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Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 15:02 - Sep 22 with 632 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Far right politico Charlie Kirk just shot in the neck in Utah on 13:40 - Sep 22 by ElderGrizzly

But remember don’t call them fascists



I can't see many similarities to be fair. It's a huge stretch to say the original's been plagiarized.

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