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Banksy 20:33 - Sep 10 with 1618 viewswrightsrightglove

Has this been discussed? Really powerful bit of artwork which they’ve now tried to remove but it’s only made it even more powerful in a classic Banksy way. Makes me wonder whether he’s used some form of paint / technique where he knew they’d try and remove it and he knew exactly how it would look after they tried to do so? Could prove to become more famous than the shredder incident
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Banksy on 20:38 - Sep 10 with 1582 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That's very good!

[Post edited 10 Sep 20:39]

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Banksy on 20:42 - Sep 10 with 1555 viewswrightsrightglove

Banksy on 20:38 - Sep 10 by BanksterDebtSlave

That's very good!

[Post edited 10 Sep 20:39]


And now it, arguably, looks even better

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Banksy on 20:42 - Sep 10 with 1546 viewsSitfcB

Banksy on 20:38 - Sep 10 by BanksterDebtSlave

That's very good!

[Post edited 10 Sep 20:39]


…and now it’s been ‘cleaned’


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Banksy on 20:47 - Sep 10 with 1496 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Banksy on 20:42 - Sep 10 by SitfcB

…and now it’s been ‘cleaned’



And just like "that", it was gone (nearly)


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Banksy on 07:16 - Sep 11 with 1048 viewsRIPbobby

I like the point banksy is trying to make, but it's factually incorrect as judges in the UK don't have gavels. Perhaps he knew this and was just trying to make a point. Maybe it would not work so well had the judge punched him.
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Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 with 1020 viewsSteve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.

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Banksy on 07:46 - Sep 11 with 958 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.


The law is being used to suppress dissent, politicians make them, judges enact them, what is Banksy missing in his symbolism?

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Banksy on 07:50 - Sep 11 with 946 viewslowhouseblue

Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.


it's worse than trite. it's cliched and unchallenging - it's conformist, safe, unoriginal, and going along with the dominant middle class political world view. there's nothing vaguely unexpected in it. the reaction of everyone who thinks it's great will be "oh yes, i agree with that." if that's what he trades in why doesn't he just stick it on a tea towel or a biscuit tin? but doubtless his bank account will benefit from the publicity. i hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building.

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Banksy on 07:58 - Sep 11 with 902 viewsMeadowlark

Banksy on 07:50 - Sep 11 by lowhouseblue

it's worse than trite. it's cliched and unchallenging - it's conformist, safe, unoriginal, and going along with the dominant middle class political world view. there's nothing vaguely unexpected in it. the reaction of everyone who thinks it's great will be "oh yes, i agree with that." if that's what he trades in why doesn't he just stick it on a tea towel or a biscuit tin? but doubtless his bank account will benefit from the publicity. i hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building.


Oooooo!
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Banksy on 08:00 - Sep 11 with 893 viewsSwansea_Blue

Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.


It depends how you view it (which is the point of a piece of art and not the front page of a newspaper). Turning it around, could anyone think of better, more impactful symbolism to portray the legal crackdown on peaceful protest? I can’t think of a caricature of a politician that everyone would instantly associate with law-makers. You could have had policeman, but again it’s the law that’s the issue.

Hopefully people understand it’s not about judges per se, but rather the process that’s rotten. And there’s nothing that incites anything against a named individual, unlike the newspaper front page.

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“Trite Sixth-Form Politics”…. on 08:04 - Sep 11 with 856 viewsBloots

Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.


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Banksy on 08:05 - Sep 11 with 844 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.


I think you've taken it rather literally, Steve.

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Banksy on 08:07 - Sep 11 with 843 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Banksy on 07:50 - Sep 11 by lowhouseblue

it's worse than trite. it's cliched and unchallenging - it's conformist, safe, unoriginal, and going along with the dominant middle class political world view. there's nothing vaguely unexpected in it. the reaction of everyone who thinks it's great will be "oh yes, i agree with that." if that's what he trades in why doesn't he just stick it on a tea towel or a biscuit tin? but doubtless his bank account will benefit from the publicity. i hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building.


So loving your transition to a New Labour class warrior Lowers!

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Banksy on 08:09 - Sep 11 with 832 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Banksy on 07:50 - Sep 11 by lowhouseblue

it's worse than trite. it's cliched and unchallenging - it's conformist, safe, unoriginal, and going along with the dominant middle class political world view. there's nothing vaguely unexpected in it. the reaction of everyone who thinks it's great will be "oh yes, i agree with that." if that's what he trades in why doesn't he just stick it on a tea towel or a biscuit tin? but doubtless his bank account will benefit from the publicity. i hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building.


I hate cliches and I see nothing cliched in it. And the fact that it's caused a discussion on here (and seemingly riled you) proves it's challenging. The fact that you think damage to a wall is more problematic than people's rights to protest being eroded is a challenging and non-cliched discussion point brought up by this art.

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“Trite Sixth-Form Politics”…. on 08:11 - Sep 11 with 812 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

“Trite Sixth-Form Politics”…. on 08:04 - Sep 11 by Bloots

….the new name for the TWTD forum.

Beautiful.


Because you bring such a raised level to all debates, obviously.

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Banksy on 08:13 - Sep 11 with 796 viewsbluelagos

Banksy on 07:50 - Sep 11 by lowhouseblue

it's worse than trite. it's cliched and unchallenging - it's conformist, safe, unoriginal, and going along with the dominant middle class political world view. there's nothing vaguely unexpected in it. the reaction of everyone who thinks it's great will be "oh yes, i agree with that." if that's what he trades in why doesn't he just stick it on a tea towel or a biscuit tin? but doubtless his bank account will benefit from the publicity. i hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building.


"I hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building."

Top quality trolling Lowers. Makes some of the politico stirrers seem like YTS boys in comparison.

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Banksy on 08:26 - Sep 11 with 711 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Banksy on 08:13 - Sep 11 by bluelagos

"I hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building."

Top quality trolling Lowers. Makes some of the politico stirrers seem like YTS boys in comparison.


Middle class concerns....lol

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Banksy on 08:28 - Sep 11 with 695 viewsbluebud

Banksy on 07:50 - Sep 11 by lowhouseblue

it's worse than trite. it's cliched and unchallenging - it's conformist, safe, unoriginal, and going along with the dominant middle class political world view. there's nothing vaguely unexpected in it. the reaction of everyone who thinks it's great will be "oh yes, i agree with that." if that's what he trades in why doesn't he just stick it on a tea towel or a biscuit tin? but doubtless his bank account will benefit from the publicity. i hope they're passing on to him the cost of repairing the damage to a grade 1 listed building.


:-) Brilliant, hope he gets taken to court and finally gets unmasked.
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Banksy on 09:06 - Sep 11 with 556 viewsWeWereZombies

Banksy on 07:16 - Sep 11 by RIPbobby

I like the point banksy is trying to make, but it's factually incorrect as judges in the UK don't have gavels. Perhaps he knew this and was just trying to make a point. Maybe it would not work so well had the judge punched him.


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Banksy on 09:57 - Sep 11 with 390 viewsbaxterbasics

Banksy on 07:35 - Sep 11 by Steve_M

It's trite sixth-form politics which is only to be expected from Banksy and blaming the judges for laws made by politicians is in the same category as the Mail's Enemies of the People front page.


Yup I was listening to an R4 discussion about attacks on the judiciary the other day and the Banksy thing was cited as an example of how they can come from the left as well as the right.

The art incorrectly suggests it is judges responsible for the over-repression of protestors (if of course you believe this is the case, as Mr Banksy seems to). Politicians decide the law, judges only see that it is followed. Although you can argue it's just symbolic, and there's not really an easy way to visually depict the legislature as an individual. But may be unhelpful.

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Banksy on 10:27 - Sep 11 with 291 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Banksy on 07:58 - Sep 11 by Meadowlark

Oooooo!


Yep, Vic and Bob handbags gif came straight to mine here!
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Banksy on 10:37 - Sep 11 with 237 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Banksy on 09:57 - Sep 11 by baxterbasics

Yup I was listening to an R4 discussion about attacks on the judiciary the other day and the Banksy thing was cited as an example of how they can come from the left as well as the right.

The art incorrectly suggests it is judges responsible for the over-repression of protestors (if of course you believe this is the case, as Mr Banksy seems to). Politicians decide the law, judges only see that it is followed. Although you can argue it's just symbolic, and there's not really an easy way to visually depict the legislature as an individual. But may be unhelpful.


Maybe the Liberty statue from the Old Bailey?

And stabbing with the sword while the scales are weighted with an IDF tank on one side and a shrouded child on the other?

And peaking from under her blindfold so she can strike effectively?

But I think the original is a great piece of Agit-prop, which is what Banksy does. Immediacy is a key part of Banksy's philosophy.
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